Hi folks,
One of the things I've been pondering of late is a set of release
criteria. E.g. here is what CloudStack MUST do to be considered for
release.
So as background there is a somewhat complex social contract that I
think we informally enter with our users. People expect us to release
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 08:46:43PM -0400, David Nalley wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> One of the things I've been pondering of late is a set of release
> criteria. E.g. here is what CloudStack MUST do to be considered for
> release.
>
> So as background there is a somewhat comp
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Prasanna Santhanam wrote:
>
> I think we messed up with the users again this time. Partly a fault
> that we can't get beta-quality builds for users to test. Seeing
> everyone run 4.2 packages after release announcement and reporting
> critical bugs I wish could've
On 09/11/2013 07:43 AM, Darren Shepherd wrote:
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Prasanna Santhanam wrote:
I think we messed up with the users again this time. Partly a fault
that we can't get beta-quality builds for users to test. Seeing
everyone run 4.2 packages after release announcement
On Sep 11, 2013, at 2:57 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote:
>
>
> On 09/11/2013 07:43 AM, Darren Shepherd wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Prasanna Santhanam wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I think we messed up with the users again this time. Partly a fault
>>> that we can't get beta-quality builds
>
> > A broken master also slows down other devs. I can't remember the number
> of times I've been debugging master for hours to find out something broke
> it.
> >
> so how do we enforce this ?
IMO, Gerrit can be used to enforce a saner workflow, see previous
discussion at [1].
Having a workflow
On 09/11/2013 10:06 AM, Sebastien Goasguen wrote:
On Sep 11, 2013, at 2:57 AM, Wido den Hollander wrote:
On 09/11/2013 07:43 AM, Darren Shepherd wrote:
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Prasanna Santhanam wrote:
I think we messed up with the users again this time. Partly a fault
that
Well in the apache model committers are nominated. So basically we should
trust our committers. So I'm going to say we enforce this by having good
discipline. In really not a fan of adding more process. In communities where
gerrit is used its usually done in a model where anybody can commit,
> -Original Message-
> From: Prasanna Santhanam [mailto:t...@apache.org]
> Sent: 11 September 2013 05:52
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Release Criteria
>
> To get beta quality builds we need to absolutely treat the master branch as
> 'sta
> Well in the apache model committers are nominated. So basically we should
> trust our committers. So I'm going to say we enforce this by having good
> discipline. In really not a fan of adding more process. In communities where
> gerrit is used its usually done in a model where anybody can co
> -Original Message-
> From: David Nalley [mailto:da...@gnsa.us]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 10, 2013 5:47 PM
> To: dev@cloudstack.apache.org
> Subject: Release Criteria
>
> Hi folks,
>
> One of the things I've been pondering of late is a set of relea
Hmmm... well shoot. If what I'm saying is an argument for gerrit, then I
take it back. I don't like heavy processes. Keep it simple, work with
good people.
Darren
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 8:23 PM, Alex Huang wrote:
> > Well in the apache model committers are nominated. So basically we
> sho
> >
> > A broken master also slows down other devs. I can't remember the
> number of times I've been debugging master for hours to find out something
> broke it.
> >
>
> so how do we enforce this ?
>
I'm so glad we raise this point. For some time now, Prasanna, Amogh, Frank,
and a number of ot
I've repeated it several times in other threads, but I think at a bare
minimum it has to work in the listed versions of Ubuntu, CentOS (both
mgmt server and KVM host), XenServer, VmWare, what have you, along
with the advertised storage and networking. We can discuss limiting
that to OSS, maybe, as
On Tue, Sep 10, 2013 at 8:46 PM, David Nalley wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> One of the things I've been pondering of late is a set of release
> criteria. E.g. here is what CloudStack MUST do to be considered for
> release.
>
I've spent a lot of time thinking about this -
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