Re: W3C XML Processing working group

2006-01-02 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On Mon, 2 Jan 2006, Gianugo Rabellino wrote: It strikes me how, in early 2006, people are still thinking that another XML domain-specific language is the way to go. We are all learning the hard way how the XML verbiage has been useless and, to some extents, detrimental: from Jelly onwards

Re: Cocoon 2.1.7 hang

2006-01-02 Thread Jean-Baptiste Quenot
* Ralph Goers: OK. I ran some basic tests on one of my machines. Just for basic info it is a P4 2.5 GHz with 1 GB of memory running RHEL 3. The only thing I did was set up JMeter to login to the portal as user cocoon. In all the tests the computer was maxed at 100% cpu. Before the

[2.2] Problems with JMX Support and Tomcat

2006-01-02 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
I'm trying to get the latest 2.2 running in a standard tomcat 5.5.12 With the default webapp, the following class can't be found: org.mortbay.log.LogFactory So it seems that the jetty-jmx-5.1.8.jar does not contain all required classes. Copying also jetty-5.1.8.jar into WEB-INF/lib of course

Re: [vote] Jean-Baptiste Quenot as new Cocoon committer (was Re: Problem with CachingPointProcessingPipeline)

2006-01-02 Thread Jorg Heymans
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: late as well, +1 +1, welcome Jean-Baptiste !

RE: Happy New Year!, Re: Merry Christmas

2006-01-02 Thread Arje Cahn
Happy new year! May 2006 finally bring us the long awaited 2.2 and much more! Are you saying 2.2 will be released May 2006? ;-) Arje

RE: [RT] Simplifying component handling

2006-01-02 Thread Max Pfingsthorn
... What's the contract for the auto-wiring? Just assuming ClassA and ClassB have public static fields called ROLE? Sounds somewhat strange. No, the contract would be to search for a component which is registered using the ClassA as the role name. Actually ClassA and ClassB are two

Re: [RT] Simplifying component handling

2006-01-02 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Max Pfingsthorn wrote: ... What's the contract for the auto-wiring? Just assuming ClassA and ClassB have public static fields called ROLE? Sounds somewhat strange. No, the contract would be to search for a component which is registered using the ClassA as the role name. Actually ClassA

Re: [2.2] Problems with JMX Support and Tomcat

2006-01-02 Thread Giacomo Pati
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 2 Jan 2006, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 11:00:32 +0100 From: Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org To: Cocoon-Dev dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: [2.2] Problems with JMX Support and Tomcat I'm

Re: [2.2] Problems with JMX Support and Tomcat

2006-01-02 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Giacomo Pati wrote: On Mon, 2 Jan 2006, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 11:00:32 +0100 From: Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: dev@cocoon.apache.org To: Cocoon-Dev dev@cocoon.apache.org Subject: [2.2] Problems with JMX Support and Tomcat I'm trying to get the latest

Re: W3C XML Processing working group

2006-01-02 Thread Jason Johnston
Gianugo Rabellino wrote: On 1/1/06, Michael Wechner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not that much interested into yet another DSL expressed in XML, and I don't feel alone at all. Actually I'd much rather drift towards a programmatic pipeline API. what do you mean by a programmatic pipeline

Re: Cocoon 2.1.7 hang

2006-01-02 Thread Ralph Goers
I replied to that days ago in the issue (1709 I believe). In short, this is a good idea for sites (like mine) that only use anonymous users. However, the idea of permanantly caching millions of users profiles in memory is very scary and will be considered to be a memory leak by many people.

Re: [RT] Simplifying component handling

2006-01-02 Thread Ralph Goers
That seems to be a catch-22. How do you move away from Avalon without making these kind of changes? Carsten Ziegeler wrote: But as we can't get any consensus on any changes, I think we should drop the topic and wait until we have moved away from Avalon completly. Carsten

Re: Cocoon 2.1.7 hang

2006-01-02 Thread Jean-Baptiste Quenot
* Ralph Goers: I replied to that days ago in the issue (1709 I believe). Sorry, I didn't notice your comment on JIRA, strangely. I will followup to your comment. -- Jean-Baptiste Quenot Systèmes d'Information ANYWARE TECHNOLOGIES Tel : +33 (0)5 61 00 52 90 Fax : +33 (0)5 61 00 51 46

[jira] Commented: (COCOON-1709) Speedup portal loading

2006-01-02 Thread Jean-Baptiste Quenot (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1709?page=comments#action_12361536 ] Jean-Baptiste Quenot commented on COCOON-1709: -- I understand your concerns about scalability. However, your comment is only relevant when a lot of profiles

[jira] Updated: (COCOON-1709) Speedup portal loading

2006-01-02 Thread Jean-Baptiste Quenot (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1709?page=all ] Jean-Baptiste Quenot updated COCOON-1709: - Attachment: portal-config Configuration of profiles location Speedup portal loading -- Key: COCOON-1709

Re: [RT] Simplifying component handling

2006-01-02 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
On 1/2/06, Ralph Goers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That seems to be a catch-22. How do you move away from Avalon without making these kind of changes? Honestly, I don't see how anything in the 2.x series could move away from Avalon. Too much refactoring needed, too many issues on the table.

[jira] Updated: (COCOON-1709) Speedup portal loading

2006-01-02 Thread Jean-Baptiste Quenot (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1709?page=all ] Jean-Baptiste Quenot updated COCOON-1709: - Attachment: UserRoleSourceFactory.java Custom SourceFactory used to locate a profile, depending on role and user available in session

Re: [RT] Simplifying component handling

2006-01-02 Thread Glen Ezkovich
This thread got me thinking about alternatives to dependency injection. The only credible alternative I can think of for Cocoon is a Service Locator. One of the things I liked about Avalon was its combination of dependency injection and service locator. This combination made sense for a

Re: [RT] Simplifying component handling

2006-01-02 Thread Ezkovich Glen
On Dec 30, 2005, at 4:05 PM, Berin Loritsch wrote: Seriously, I agree that writing less code is good, but not at the price of too black magic implying weaker contracts. Agreed. To achieve the goal of less code would require major overhauls of the entire system. Yes. I think Cocoon

mvn compile for core block fails in 2.2 snapshot

2006-01-02 Thread Rice Yeh
Hi, I checked out the 2.2 source code and use 'mvn compile' to compile the source code and got the following error:[INFO] Compilation failureC:\apache\cocoon.home\svn\trunk\core\..\src\java\org\apache\cocoon\components\fl ow\ContinuationsManagerImplMBean.java:[20,28] package org.mortbay.util.jmx

[jira] Commented: (COCOON-1709) Speedup portal loading

2006-01-02 Thread Carsten Ziegeler (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/COCOON-1709?page=comments#action_12361572 ] Carsten Ziegeler commented on COCOON-1709: -- I agree with Ralph - we have a lot of portals with hundreds and thousands of users - each one having an own profile. So

Re: [RT] Simplifying component handling

2006-01-02 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Gianugo Rabellino wrote: On 1/2/06, Ralph Goers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That seems to be a catch-22. How do you move away from Avalon without making these kind of changes? Good question - I think noone is able to answer that one. Honestly, I don't see how anything in the 2.x series

Re: [2.2] Problems with JMX Support and Tomcat

2006-01-02 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: I can come up with a list of required classes for jetty's jmx support tomorrow. Only the log package from the jetty jar is required, so rebundling shouldn't be that hard. Carsten -- Carsten Ziegeler - Open Source Group, SN AG http://www.s-und-n.de

Re: [RT] Simplifying component handling

2006-01-02 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le 3 janv. 06, à 08:11, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : ...So I'm coming back to my idea, is anyone against adding constructor injection to ECM++ or at least make it pluggable so I can add it for my own projects? The change adds only a feature while maintaining 100% compatibility... I'm +1 on this

Re: Cocoon 2.1.7 hang

2006-01-02 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Ralph Goers wrote: OK. I ran some basic tests on one of my machines. Just for basic info it is a P4 2.5 GHz with 1 GB of memory running RHEL 3. The only thing I did was set up JMeter to login to the portal as user cocoon. In all the tests the computer was maxed at 100% cpu. Before the

Re: [2.2] Problems with JMX Support and Tomcat

2006-01-02 Thread Ralph Goers
This strikes me as being kind of bad. So when we do maven builds we will have to build this dependency and publish it? Is there any way to get the Jetty folks to package this for us to use? Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: I can come up with a list of required classes

Re: [RT] Simplifying component handling

2006-01-02 Thread Reinhard Poetz
--- Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Gianugo Rabellino wrote: On 1/2/06, Ralph Goers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That seems to be a catch-22. How do you move away from Avalon without making these kind of changes? Good question - I think noone is able to answer that one.

Re: Cocoon 2.1.7 hang

2006-01-02 Thread Ralph Goers
I used the latest source for both 2.1 and trunk. Carsten Ziegeler wrote: Ralph Goers wrote: OK. I ran some basic tests on one of my machines. Just for basic info it is a P4 2.5 GHz with 1 GB of memory running RHEL 3. The only thing I did was set up JMeter to login to the portal as user

Re: [RT] Simplifying component handling

2006-01-02 Thread Upayavira
Reinhard Poetz wrote: --- Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Gianugo Rabellino wrote: On 1/2/06, Ralph Goers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That seems to be a catch-22. How do you move away from Avalon without making these kind of changes? Good question - I think noone is able to