Re: [Flow] Importing multiple scripts? (ScriptDirectoryNode)

2004-02-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 24 fév 2004, à 13:12 Europe/Zurich, Andreas Hartmann a écrit : ...I would use CInclude. I'll try if it includes text files and complain if it doesn't work :) Note that there are at least two ways to "XMLize" text files: -The chaperon block TextGenerator, which puts the whole text in a s

Re: [RT] rethinking the cache storage system

2004-02-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 24 fév 2004, à 08:44 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : ...Exactly, we already tried out a store that simply used the filesystem (with converting a key to several directories). This Filesystem store is still available somewhere and could be used. BUT there were several problems (k

Re: ASF Board Summary for February 18, 2004

2004-02-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
..We had quite a discussion about this... ..so remove the author tags on the same update? +1 -Bertrand

Re: A Decision on Jisp

2004-02-23 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 23 fév 2004, à 17:09 Europe/Zurich, Scott Robert Ladd a écrit : ...I will rewrite my web site to reflect the eventual removal of Jips from Cocoon,... The decision is yours but you could maybe simply specify that "Jisp 2.x" is used by Apache Cocoon. ...since you have patently refused

Re: [RT] rethinking the cache storage system

2004-02-23 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 23 fév 2004, à 17:20 Europe/Zurich, Scott Robert Ladd a écrit : ...When I've written cache system, I've always used the file system directly. The only catch is that some operating systems limit the number of files on disk or in a directory; a very active server could hit those limits

Re: Of One-man Efforts and the like

2004-02-23 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Steven Noels wrote (to Scott Robert Ladd): ...I'm not saying you *should* follow the path of donation and incubation, since this requires a lot of work and energy, I just want to show you that being part of a larger family could buy you something... If Jisp is of interest to the JCS people, and

Re: Java continuations with joeq

2004-02-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Samedi, 21 fév 2004, à 17:13 Europe/Zurich, Christopher Oliver a écrit : ...I did some informal tests and it appears to actually be slower than interpreted Rhino (not sure exactly why, perhaps because Rhino bytecodes are higher level), but was significantly faster than BeanShell (which is

Re: Of One-man Efforts and the like

2004-02-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Vendredi, 20 fév 2004, à 20:19 Europe/Zurich, Hunsberger, Peter a écrit : ...Now, exactly, how you go about building a community is another question. But, it seems that perhaps some of the Cocoon project members might be willing to help?.. After starting an Open-Source project myself (jfor, se

Re: Jisp 3.0 moved to GPL licence

2004-02-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Vendredi, 20 fév 2004, à 14:16 Europe/Zurich, Antonio Gallardo a écrit : ...Good news! I already read some info of JCS and looks like the jisp usage is optional: Cool - moving to an ASF thing would certainly be good. -Bertrand

Re: Jisp 3.0 moved to GPL licence

2004-02-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Vendredi, 20 fév 2004, à 11:52 Europe/Zurich, Reinhard Poetz a écrit : ...As our store depends on Jisp - what does this mean for us? IMO we have to look for a replacement. Any ideas/hints? Hmm..I'm not too excited by http://www.coyotegulch.com/jisp/index.html mentioning "the Apache project" a

Re: [Vote] Move portlet environment into portal block

2004-02-19 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Jeudi, 19 fév 2004, à 11:17 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : ...I propose to move the producer part from the scratchpad into the block combining both and maintaining everything that belongs to the portal in one place. +1 I haven't had time to look closer but this portlets stuff looks l

Re: [vote] Removing Jalopy

2004-02-17 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 17 fév 2004, à 15:43 Europe/Zurich, Steven Noels a écrit : Let's drop Jalopy. Your votes please. +1, let's travel light ;-) -Bertrand

Re: Announce: Momento

2004-02-16 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 17 fév 2004, à 07:42 Europe/Zurich, Alan a écrit : ...My communication skills are getting streched by all the announcing. Please let me know if this is a good explaintion. I can use it to create a better overview document hmmm..this sounds very interesting but for me the n

Re: whitespace cleanup and efficiency drive

2004-02-16 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 17 fév 2004, à 06:17 Europe/Zurich, David Crossley a écrit : ... The -k option is only for 'add' and 'update' etc. The default with the command-line client is to do ASCII and you need to explicitly do 'cvs add -kb' for images, and jar files, etc Note also that the binary -kb flag is s

Re: XMLEurope 2004

2004-02-16 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 16 fév 2004, à 14:05 Europe/Zurich, Arje Cahn a écrit : Anyone attending the XML Europe 2004? I might go unless there is an ApacheCon Europe in 2004, in which case I'll rather save my time and money for it. The ApacheCon site says nothing about it, does anyone know if an ApacheCon euro

Re: Another call for more automated tests (was: Linotype broken)

2004-02-16 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 16 fév 2004, à 11:09 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : ...It might have been discussed before, but I still have this thought anyway: Isn't it possible to use our nice crawling feature of Cocoon to check each link? So, basically we could start Cocoon as a servlet, start the crawle

Another call for more automated tests (was: Linotype broken)

2004-02-16 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Vendredi, 13 fév 2004, à 16:52 Europe/Zurich, Christopher Oliver a écrit : I noticed the Petstore and Linotype samples were both broken _after_ the release. I'm not sure what caused this but it'd probably be a good idea to test all the samples before releasing next time I think we all ag

Re: Removing ant from distribution?

2004-02-15 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Dimanche, 15 fév 2004, à 15:41 Europe/Zurich, Stefano Mazzocchi a écrit : What if, instead of going thru the hassle of upgrading ant everytime we remove it and pretend people have it installed? I think everybody has ant installed by now. (in case they have 1.5.x, we could ship the task onl

Re: [VOTE] Woody scratchpad area

2004-02-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Vendredi, 13 fév 2004, à 12:47 Europe/Zurich, Reinhard Poetz a écrit : ... 3) moving Woody inside cocoon core and rename it Cocoon... ... +1 to renaming it ASAP (BTW, do we need a formal vote for the archives? +I know we all agreed on this at Ghent but I also know there were not +all develope

Re: [VOTE] Woody scratchpad area

2004-02-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Vendredi, 13 fév 2004, à 09:45 Europe/Zurich, Bruno Dumon a écrit : ... 1) removing XMLForms entirely (they have been deprecated for a while now) I'm with Joerg here, there's no harm in leaving it sit there for a little longer, and there are people using it. I'd be +1 for removing all its doc

Re: No 2.1.2 for download, is that by design?

2004-02-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Vendredi, 13 fév 2004, à 08:29 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : ...I think the general rule for dists is that only the last release is in the usual dist directory and all other old releases are on archive.apache.org We currently always have three releases there, the last two ones for

Re: bugzilla usage

2004-02-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Vendredi, 13 fév 2004, à 00:22 Europe/Zurich, Joerg Heinicke a écrit : On 12.02.2004 07:38, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: ...The dependency tree as we use it at the moment is not meant blocking, but that's an obvious wrong usage of it and bugzilla as it reads "bug 123 blocks 456&q

No 2.1.2 for download, is that by design?

2004-02-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Did I miss something, or is there a good reason why 2.1.2 is not available for download anymore on our mirrors? -Bertrand Saw this on lenya-dev: De: "Gregor J. Rothfuss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Jeu 12 fév 2004 17:10:50 Europe/Zurich À: Lenya Developers List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Objet: we need

[ANN] next week, LOTS Open Source event, Bern, Switzerland

2004-02-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Cocoonistas, It's a bit late but I realize there have been no announcements here: http://lots.ch : Wednesday 18.2, Bern: Let's open the source! A one-day event: talks, workshops, project presentations, OSCOM hackathon, you name it. Mostly in German, some talks in English. Several Cocoon and

Re: [VOTE] Woody scratchpad area

2004-02-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Jeudi, 12 fév 2004, à 16:51 Europe/Zurich, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : ... +1 also, but we have to be careful of the potential parallel evolutions of the same class in the trunk and in the scratchpad... CVS branches are very useful IMHO for such experimental-but-maybe-cool stuff. For some reason

[OT] Die Hard (Was: End of code freeze)

2004-02-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Jeudi, 12 fév 2004, à 11:04 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : Bertrand Delacretaz REALLY! No joke this time!... You didn't say "Carsten says end of code freeze". It doesn't count ;-) Although I really appreciate the idea, the first thing that comes into my mind i

Re: [IMP] End of code freeze

2004-02-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Jeudi, 12 fév 2004, à 10:25 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : REALLY! No joke this time!... You didn't say "Carsten says end of code freeze". It doesn't count ;-) More seriously: thanks very much Carsten for "negociating" and doing the release! -Bertrand

Re: bugzilla usage (was: [IMP] Code Freeze)

2004-02-11 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mercredi, 11 fév 2004, à 19:53 Europe/Zurich, Joerg Heinicke a écrit : ...The dependency tree as we use it at the moment is not meant blocking, but that's an obvious wrong usage of it and bugzilla as it reads "bug 123 blocks 456". We really should use this only for blocking issues... I disag

Re: [IMP] Code Freeze (was: End of code freeze)

2004-02-11 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mercredi, 11 fév 2004, à 17:37 Europe/Zurich, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : ...I let you decide as I'm currently too swamped to follow closely the flow... What, Sylvain not following the flow? I thought you were a Flow expert ;-) -Bertrand

Re: [IMP] Code Freeze (was: End of code freeze)

2004-02-11 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mercredi, 11 fév 2004, à 16:11 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : To increase the confusion :) I think we should stick to the code freeze as I see the chance for a release tomorrow... A release would be good as it looks like all known blockers are gone. FYI I cannot help integrating t

Re: [Vote] To Release or to not release

2004-02-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 10 fév 2004, à 15:37 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : ..So, please cast your vote. +1 The caching/jisp problem seems to be present in 2.1.3 already, so a release is ok IMHO. -Bertrand

Re: Goal of the Cocoon TLP

2004-02-10 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 10 fév 2004, à 11:24 Europe/Zurich, Steven Noels a écrit : ... "The Apache Cocoon Community Project fosters community-based exploration, design and implementation of web application frameworks with a focus on XML pipelining, centralized configuration mechanisms and separation of conce

Re: [IMP] Release Showstoppers!

2004-02-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 9 fév 2004, à 11:56 Europe/Zurich, Stuart Roebuck a écrit : ...Okay, it's me that's daft, I thought the conversation was talking about Cacheable XSP, not a demo of it... No problem - only those who write nothing never write something "daft" ;-) -Bertrand

Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 26753] - Persistent store or cache corruption?

2004-02-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 9 fév 2004, à 11:19 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: ...But shouldn't we add prominent warnings to such issues, a link on the welcome page or something? Yes, but we have to be very careful with the formulation. Users shouldn't Get the impre

Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 26753] - Persistent store or cache corruption?

2004-02-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Dimanche, 8 fév 2004, à 14:11 Europe/Zurich, Joerg Heinicke a écrit : http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/cocoon-2.1/lib/core/Attic/excalibur- store-20031211.jar I've tried with this jar instead of the one which is in CVS now and was able to reproduce the lockup problem, details at http://nago

Re: [IMP] Release Showstoppers!

2004-02-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 9 fév 2004, à 11:32 Europe/Zurich, Stuart Roebuck a écrit : On 7 Feb 2004, at 2:36 pm, Geoff Howard wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le Samedi, 7 fév 2004, à 15:15 Europe/Zurich, Geoff Howard a écrit : Vadim Gritsenko wrote: 5) Cacheable XSP is *painfully

Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 26753] - Persistent store or cache corruption?

2004-02-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Dimanche, 8 fév 2004, à 18:59 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : ...Now, in general I totally agree with you, but I fear that this bug is in there for a long time, which means all 2.1.x releases have already this bug (perhaps I'm wrong)... In this case no problem to release with bug 26

Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 26753] - Persistent store or cache corruption?

2004-02-08 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Dimanche, 8 fév 2004, à 10:23 Europe/Zurich, Joerg Heinicke a écrit : ...Bertrand, can you do your test again with the former version of the JAR (mid december)? From what I see the bug was already in before and the patch provided by Charles did not solve it as it does not address the bug in J

Re: lib sources of CVS snapshots (was: [IMP] Code Freeze for 2.1.x)

2004-02-08 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Dimanche, 8 fév 2004, à 10:45 Europe/Zurich, Joerg Heinicke a écrit : ...Do we and how do we want to store the sources of CVS snapshots of our libraries? If you do your CVS snapshot against a particular date it is reproducible, something like cvs export -D 2003-12-31 12:00 somemodule Then

Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 26753] - Persistent store or cache corruption?

2004-02-08 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Samedi, 7 fév 2004, à 23:44 Europe/Zurich, Geoff Howard a écrit : [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=26753 Persistent store or cache corruption? --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2004-02-07 18:34 --- Afaik, this is a known Jisp

Re: [IMP] Release Showstoppers!

2004-02-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Samedi, 7 fév 2004, à 15:15 Europe/Zurich, Geoff Howard a écrit : Vadim Gritsenko wrote: 5) Cacheable XSP is *painfully* slow! It takes 2 seconds per request!!!... Um, isn't that because the xsp intentionally sleeps for 2 seconds so you can observe the effect of the caching? It says it is d

Re: [IMP] Release Showstoppers!

2004-02-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Samedi, 7 fév 2004, à 15:01 Europe/Zurich, Vadim Gritsenko a écrit : I took some time to test what we have... Found several showstoppers:... See also the "next release" bug http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=25321 we have entered some new stuff including a scary cache c

Re: [IMP] Code Freeze for 2.1.x

2004-02-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Samedi, 7 fév 2004, à 15:12 Europe/Zurich, Joerg Heinicke a écrit : ...Maybe you can add an anteater test too ;) +1, me loves anteater tests ;-) -Bertrand

Re: [IMP] Code Freeze for 2.1.x

2004-02-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Samedi, 7 fév 2004, à 15:04 Europe/Zurich, Geoff Howard a écrit : Carsten Ziegeler wrote: starts nowjust a joke :) The code freeze starts tomorrow morning and ends with the release on thursday (hopefully). Do I need a vote to apply a bug fix now that the code freeze has (presumably) star

DeliTransformer did not build (was cvs commit..TraxTransformer.java)

2004-02-07 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Joerg, did you forget to commit TraxTransformer after your DeliTransformer changes? Deli block now compiles ok, please cross-check. (I'm no Avalon guru) (yet;-). -Bertrand bdelacretaz2004/02/07 00:59:57 Modified:src/java/org/apache/cocoon/transformation TraxT

Re: [RT] zero-code web services from Flow

2004-02-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Vendredi, 6 fév 2004, à 22:38 Europe/Zurich, Vadim Gritsenko a écrit : ...Sounds yummy... How much slower will it be comparing to good old Axis - generated classes? Compared to the network round-trip that any SOAP call implies, the difference might be negligible for most applications. But thi

Re: [RT] zero-code web services from Flow

2004-02-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Vendredi, 6 fév 2004, à 20:44 Europe/Zurich, Davanum Srinivas a écrit : For #2 - See DynamicInvoker in Axis (http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/ws-axis/java/samples/client/) Thanks - looks like just what we need! -Bertrand

[RT] zero-code web services from Flow

2004-02-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Based on http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=FlowAndWebServices, we talked a bit about this on IRC today and I did some research. It looks like the "only" things missing are: a) A rhino adapter (written in java, rhino extension), which accepts any method name and number of parameters, and d

Re: Anteater tests are so easy to write, we need more of them!

2004-02-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Vendredi, 6 fév 2004, à 18:22 Europe/Zurich, Stefano Mazzocchi a écrit : ..me thinking: since we are already distributing ant and junit, why don't we distribute anteater as well and make that part of the build process? I'm sure that would make it easier for people to write new tests. Why not

Anteater tests are so easy to write, we need more of them!

2004-02-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
I made some small changes which clarify how tests can be written, but everything has been in place for ages. People, please have a look! More info at http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=TestingFramework -Bertrand

Re: Switching to licence 2.0?

2004-02-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Vendredi, 6 fév 2004, à 09:45 Europe/Zurich, Carsten Ziegeler a écrit : ...Anyway, as this seems to be a mass of work, I think we should wait for the release and switch right after it. WDYT? +1, let's use the energy to test the release instead. -Bertrand

Re: [reminder] board report

2004-02-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Jeudi, 5 fév 2004, à 09:21 Europe/Zurich, Steven Noels a écrit : ...Hi folks - input for the board report is welcome, and due for next Friday the 13th. Rough ideas (don't remember if the report is more technical or community oriented or both, assume both): -FirstFridays are becoming a welcome

[reminder] Tomorrow is FirstFriday!

2004-02-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
see http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=FirstFriday I'll be "there" at least in the (GMT) morning - see you! -Bertrand

Re: Users list moderators [Fwd: Re: [HELP]Unable to get transformer handler for factium/.xsl]

2004-02-02 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 2 fév 2004, à 16:27 Europe/Zurich, Steven Noels a écrit : ...How about dropping the mailto: link for the 2.1.4 release? +1 As we saw last week [1], many sysadmins use default error pages, so I agree that these should not be point and click noise generators for our lists. Tech people wi

Re: Future of XSP and ESQL [was Re: An idea - transformer logicsheets.]

2004-02-02 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 2 fév 2004, à 11:45 Europe/Zurich, Guido Casper a écrit : Torsten Curdt wrote: ...I just hope it's worth the effort since everyone seems to be going the OJB way... It _is_ worth it IMHO since there is more to databases (like reporting applications) than persisting Java objects (otherwis

[bug 26376] ,was: Releasing 2.1.4?

2004-01-30 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Vendredi, 30 jan 2004, à 16:38 Europe/Zurich, Geoff Howard a écrit : ...Appears it's properly blocking in the release plan for next release: http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/showdependencytree.cgi?id=25321 Am I interpreting that right? you're right - I have increased the severity to make it mor

Re: Releasing 2.1.4?

2004-01-30 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Vendredi, 30 jan 2004, à 14:30 Europe/Zurich, Geoff Howard a écrit : On 30.01.2004 10:54, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: ...I propose the 12th of february as the release date for 2.1.4 - regardless if we have solved all the open issues (RORE - Release often, release early). WDYAT? +1 +1 - The 1.3 runt

Re: Commerzbank and Cocoon

2004-01-30 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Vendredi, 30 jan 2004, à 08:21 Europe/Zurich, Matthew Langham a écrit : It looks as though the German Commerzbank is using Cocoon: https://portal01.commerzbanking.de/cocoon/zgs/frankfurt/pubdist/ derivate.pag e Yes, and this https://portal01.commerzbanking.de/cocoon/NOPAGE makes it more obv

Re: [proposal] Cleaning up our component library

2004-01-28 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mercredi, 28 jan 2004, à 11:52 Europe/Zurich, Joerg Heinicke a écrit : ...With our deprecated block we have another mean to lead the user to the new components. When it's excluded the application will just not work. But I don't know if this is true for 2.2 and real blocks too... hmm...I don't

Re: [proposal] Cleaning up our component library

2004-01-28 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mercredi, 28 jan 2004, à 02:40 Europe/Zurich, Joerg Heinicke a écrit : One problem often mentioned is that Cocoon provides to many possibilities to achieve some goals. Cocoon's flexibility ends where it is more confusing than helpful. Therefore I want to propose to remove/deprecate the comp

Re: CVS build broken, missing PageLocalScopeHolder

2004-01-28 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Sorry, my bad. Should be fixed now. it is - thanks! -Bertrand

CVS build broken, missing PageLocalScopeHolder

2004-01-28 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Current CVS does not compile here, looks like the PageLocalScopeHolder class source code is missing: src/java/org/apache/cocoon/components/flow/javascript/fom/ FOM_Cocoon.java:238: cannot resolve symbol symbol : class PageLocalScopeHolder location: class org.apache.cocoon.components.flow.jav

Re: [OT] Blogs, RSS

2004-01-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 26 jan 2004, à 22:14 Europe/Zurich, Joerg Heinicke a écrit : Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Before switching to NetNewsWire (macosx only) I used http://www.newsisfree.com which does a decent job and requires only a browser on the client side. This is more or less a portal where you

Re: [OT] Blogs, RSS (was: New Job)

2004-01-25 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Dimanche, 25 jan 2004, à 22:52 Europe/Zurich, Joerg Heinicke a écrit : ...Can you recommend some little nice piece of software for handling the RSS stuff automatically for me without surfing around through the world of blogs? Before switching to NetNewsWire (macosx only) I used http://www.n

[GT] Next week, GetTogether in Bern, Switzerland

2004-01-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
This is just an informal dinner, no big event this time. Please have a look at http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=CocoonUserGroupSwitzerland if you're interested. Michael Gerzabek kindly offered to coordinate the event. See you there! -Bertrand

Re: Cocoon Stack Traces

2004-01-13 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 13 jan 2004, à 09:47 Europe/Zurich, Steven Noels a écrit : ... saw Marc once hooking the Eclipse debugger into an Apple, and that seriously kicked ass - you don't need println() anymore of you have a full-blown debugger at your service. Yes, if you're debugging java code it's fairly eas

Re: Cocoon Stack Traces

2004-01-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 13 jan 2004, à 03:41 Europe/Zurich, Tony Collen a écrit : Vadim Gritsenko wrote: [snip] I don't like that message has been added to the core sitemap tags. How about adding separate tag (ant-like): It's easier to add/remove (comment/uncomment) a tag than an attribute. Or, arguing s

HAPPY NEW YEAR Cocooners!

2004-01-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
For me 2003 has been a great year around here, the GT was fantastic and Cocoon has made great progress towards becoming a widespread and well-known tool. I'm proud to play my small part here even if I often wish I could do more. Thanks to everybody, I hope you all have a great year in 2004! -B

Re: Changing the copyright year :-D

2003-12-31 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mercredi, 31 déc 2003, à 13:25 Europe/Zurich, Antonio Gallardo a écrit : ...I also noted there are some files that currently has: 1999-2002 in the portal block, hssf serializer (poi block) + some on slop, qdox files Can I changed this too? IANAL but I think so. In fact it would be more pra

Re: Release of 2.1.4 in sight?

2003-12-31 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 30 déc 2003, à 21:06 Europe/Zurich, Litrik De Roy a écrit : ...I liked the fact that 2.1.1, 2.1.2 and 2.1.3 followed each other quickly. And I know that Bertrand has hinted several times at a 2.1.4 release... me? hinted at something? You're right though, people have mentioned several t

FirstFriday anyone?

2003-12-31 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Next Friday should in theory be a FirstFriday but I don't know if anyone is in the mood at this time of the year. I won't be able to participate, but if people are willing to do it, please go ahead and create a new page from http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=FirstFriday If it doesn't hap

Happy Birthday Matthew!

2003-12-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Well, if we can believe the cryptic messages from http://www.silent-penguin.com/archives/001509.html, Matthew's birthday starts in 45 minutes, so HAPPY BIRTHDAY! -Bertrand, carefully saving the thread ID this time so we can create the longest thread in history ;-)

Re: Speeding up Cocoon start at runtime?

2003-12-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Samedi, 20 déc 2003, à 11:17 Europe/Zurich, Antonio Gallardo a écrit : ..The change is already in the CVS. Please check it. build works, "cocoon servlet" works. Didn't do any performance check. Ciao, Bertrand

Re: [OT] Joerg's Birthday!

2003-12-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Vendredi, 19 déc 2003, à 19:19 Europe/Zurich, Tony Collen a écrit : Happy Birthday, Joerg! does ICQ tell the truth? if so: HAPPY BIRTHDAY JOERG! -Bertrand (Too bad we lost the orignal Happy Birtdhay Thread ID ;-)

Re: First commit; please check line endings.

2003-12-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Vendredi, 19 déc 2003, à 21:41 Europe/Zurich, Timothy Larson a écrit : I made my first commit (to cform's AbstractWidget.java). Would somebody please check whether the line endings were handled correctly? Line endings of src/blocks/woody/java/org/apache/cocoon/woody/formmodel/ AbstractWidg

Re: Speeding up Cocoon start at runtime?

2003-12-20 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Samedi, 20 déc 2003, à 09:59 Europe/Zurich, Antonio Gallardo a écrit : http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.3/docs/guide/jar/jar.html#JAR%20Index Sounds interesting, and as it is based on an extra file in jars (IIUC) I don't see how it could cause any harm. Did you do any measurements with and without

Re: [Vote] Daniel Fagerstrom as Cocoon committer

2003-12-15 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 15 déc 2003, à 08:17 Europe/Zurich, Reinhard Poetz a écrit : I want to propose Daniel Fagerstrom as new Cocoon committer... big +1, I'm afraid to say "I thought he was one already" but I would have lost if I had to bet ;-) -Bertrand

Re: ClassCastException for Postgres datasource in Generator

2003-12-15 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 15 déc 2003, à 07:58 Europe/Zurich, Harald Wehr a écrit : ...In cocoon.xconf we added the parameters for the connection: jdbc:postgresql://192.168.9.2/vrgis vrgis sigrv I'm not sure if this applies to your case, but http://avalon.apache.org/excalib

Re: [POLL] Interest in unified code convention

2003-12-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
est either: a) reformatting when the code freeze starts but *before* everybody starts frantically testing stuff before the release (we all do this don't we?) or b) reformatting right *after* the release to give us time to find potential reformatting bugs. -Bertrand -- Bertrand De

Re: Naming of "-dev" libraries

2003-12-12 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Jeudi, 11 déc 2003, à 15:30 Europe/Zurich, Sylvain Wallez a écrit : ...what do you think of using "-dev-mmdd.jar" names? +1 for having the date in the filename. I like "-dev" as well. -Bertrand

Re: [POLL] Interest in unified code convention

2003-12-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 9 déc 2003, à 17:56 Europe/Zurich, Stephan Michels a écrit : On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: ...Can you explain how it would be used? CVS preprocessor? ant task that everybody has to (painfully) run before every commit? Ant target, like 'ant format'. Which one

Re: [POLL] Interest in unified code convention

2003-12-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 9 déc 2003, à 16:24 Europe/Zurich, Stephan Michels a écrit : ...after I made some positive experiences with jalopy, an open source code formatter, I want to offer install jalopy with a proposal for the our code convention Can you explain how it would be used? CVS preprocessor? ant ta

Re: Bugzilla as project management tool

2003-12-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 9 déc 2003, à 10:32 Europe/Zurich, Unico Hommes a écrit : ...Just one request though. Can somebody add 'current CVS 2.2' to version list? done. -Bertrand

Re: Bugzilla as project management tool

2003-12-09 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Reinhard, Thanks very much for setting this up! If people here "bite" (*and* do the underlying implementations ;-) I'm sure this will be a big help for project coordination. Basically what you suggest is "if you're working on something it must be an issue in bugzilla" - I like this rule, it

Re: Ignore "annotations" namespace in sitemap?

2003-12-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Samedi, 6 déc 2003, à 16:44 Europe/Zurich, Martin Holz a écrit : Bertrand Delacretaz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: The TreeProcessor would ignore everything in the annotations namespace (Sylvain suggests adding a filtering XMLPipe just after the parser that reads the sitemap file). Wo

Re: Another attempt at wrapping code lines

2003-12-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Samedi, 6 déc 2003, à 14:04 Europe/Zurich, David Crossley a écrit : ...Anyway, can you recall your suggestion, Bertrand? I don't have an ICQ log, but what I suggested was creating a transformer to wrap text. Writing a TextWrappingTransformer which processes configurable element names ( for e

Re: Ignore "annotations" namespace in sitemap?

2003-12-06 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Vendredi, 5 déc 2003, à 23:15 Europe/Zurich, Vadim Gritsenko a écrit : Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: We talked about this at the GT and today again on irc, the goal is to allow structured comments in sitemaps, for example: http://apache.org/cocoon/sitemap/1.0"; xmlns:note=

Ignore "annotations" namespace in sitemap?

2003-12-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
We talked about this at the GT and today again on irc, the goal is to allow structured comments in sitemaps, for example: http://apache.org/cocoon/sitemap/1.0"; xmlns:note="http://apache.org/cocoon/sitemap/annotations/1.0"; > annotations added to sitemap today no filename, gener

[bugzilla] reassign bugs to their authors when asking for clarification?

2003-12-05 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
I've been doing this for two bugs today: http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=24817 http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=20640 I think it makes it clear that we're waiting for input from these people. It will help keeping track of such cases, including close the bug in

Re: Offline Cocoon execution

2003-12-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Sean, Gang. Please do not cross-post such questions, your question is ok for the users@ list. -Bertrand

[ANN] don't forget, tomorrow is FirstFriday!

2003-12-04 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
All volunteers are welcome, non-committers can also help analyze issues and provide patches. See http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=FirstFriday -Bertrand

Re: Load Balancing web applications with mod_proxy...

2003-12-03 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mercredi, 3 déc 2003, à 23:47 Europe/Zurich, Pier Fumagalli a écrit : ...Simple, and easy... Great stuff! Thanks for sharing this. -Bertrand

Re: DO NOT REPLY [Bug 25116] - Tree widget

2003-12-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Mardi, 2 déc 2003, à 01:36 Europe/Zurich, Pier Fumagalli a écrit : ...Note to self (and to others) use BugZilla to track development and not only bugs! :-) +1000 ;-) -Bertrand

Re: BugZilla access...

2003-12-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 1 déc 2003, à 12:15 Europe/Zurich, Pier Fumagalli a écrit : Reinhard asked me if some of us can have access to BugZilla to manage components and versions - I believe especially for tracking the development of Woody^H^H^H^H^H CocoonForms :) Short answer is "yes"... Long answer is "who

Re: Feature request votes (was Re: CocoonForms roadmap)

2003-12-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 1 déc 2003, à 09:35 Europe/Zurich, Reinhard Poetz a écrit: ...So using the dependency function we can create following hierarchy: - CocoonFormsRoadmap - release 1.0 CocoonForms release 1.0 maybe, just to be clear - multi-form support - calculated widgets - release 1.1

Re: Feature request votes (was Re: CocoonForms roadmap)

2003-12-01 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 1 déc 2003, à 08:51 Europe/Zurich, Reinhard Poetz a écrit : ...CocoonForms = need to to define a Component called CocoonForms for the "Cocoon 2" product in bugzilla. What do we need this for? Defining a "Cocoon Forms" component of Cocoon allows you to mark issues as being specific to Coc

Re: Feature request votes (was Re: CocoonForms roadmap)

2003-11-30 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Dimanche, 30 nov 2003, à 21:08 Europe/Zurich, Litrik De Roy a écrit : ...2) There was a piece of text saying "0 votes used out of 6 allowed.". Does this mean that I can only cast 6 votes. The enhancements list for Woody/CocoonForms will be much longer than that... This max number of votes is

Re: Feature request votes (was Re: CocoonForms roadmap)

2003-11-30 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Dimanche, 30 nov 2003, à 15:18 Europe/Zurich, Reinhard Poetz a écrit : ...yep, I had the feeling too but as we don't have any rules for feature requests and I don't have the know-how in Bugzilla how to separate between patches, bugs and feature requests... There was a discussion a while ago,

Re: Scriptable objects with BeanShell

2003-11-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 24 nov 2003, à 22:02 Europe/Zurich, Upayavira a écrit : ...Then I've effectively created a class. But it seems a bit around the houses to me... ok, see your point now, thanks. Don't close the door on scripting stuff too soon though, there's a lot happening with Groovy [1] (not to menti

Re: Moving docs from Wiki

2003-11-24 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Le Lundi, 24 nov 2003, à 22:00 Europe/Zurich, Joerg Heinicke a écrit : ...From that point of view my solution must be really good in your opinion :-) http://wiki.cocoondev.org/Wiki.jsp?page=CocoonFeatures hmmm..maybe we should push a little more towards patches? Instead of If you want to add fur

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