Re: Cocoon portal and excel

2004-05-03 Thread Leon Widdershoven
Not specific on coplets, but, a submit button is embedded in a form. The form has an action target. This target should point to a sitemap component (pipeline). If you're in the pipeline, it's up to you to generate your XML using a generator, extracting information from the request. As I hear

Re: [RT] Use of flowscript or the pyramid of contracts (was Re:[RT] Checked exceptions considered harmful)

2004-04-23 Thread Leon Widdershoven
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Leszek Gawron wrote: Components are existed before Flow, but Flow is more popular than writing components, the question is why? flowscript + notepad vs. components + eclipse. and the winner concerning development lifecycle time is: flowscript. Flowscript is: a)

Re: Modular database component

2004-04-22 Thread Leon Widdershoven
Joerg Heinicke wrote: On 20.04.2004 07:49, Reinhard Poetz wrote: Following this I don't see the need for a. calling DB from within Flowscripts You mean direct JDBC? Hmm.. I don't like the idea, but here Groovy can take the role a lot better than Javascript. Note, Groovy has built in SQL

Re: Modular database component

2004-04-20 Thread Leon Widdershoven
Antonio Gallardo wrote: Reinhard Poetz dijo: I'm aware of the fact that there are many ways in Cocoon. I think that we as community should give clear advice what's in our opinion the best way. If I'm asked I say: 1. Enterprise Level --- O/R-mapping, EJB 2. Simple Database Applications with

Re: [RT] Use of flowscript or the pyramid of contracts (was Re: [RT] Checked exceptions considered harmful)

2004-04-20 Thread Leon Widdershoven
snip/ But both such cases would be to protect the user, and not to force users to a certain development model favoured by the developer. The developer may well be right in his opinions, but users come from different backgrounds and would not understand they be limited because their way is not

Re: Modular database component

2004-04-20 Thread Leon Widdershoven
I will not be sure. Writing SQL code is always larger than using O/R mapping tools and we already know many developers have problem with SQL. They don't write optimal SQL queries. See slides 10-14: http://cvs.apache.org/viewcvs.cgi/*checkout*/db-ojb/contrib/ojb-dataccess.pdf I honestly do not

Re: Modular database component

2004-04-20 Thread Leon Widdershoven
Ugo Cei wrote: Leon Widdershoven wrote: I honestly do not care about the efficiency of my SQL. The database is by far the fastest component. I do not think OJB can really optimize a simple SELECT foo, bar from BLA; statement. There's just nothing to optimize! You can always optimize it away

Re: [RT] Use of flowscript or the pyramid of contracts (was Re: [RT] Checked exceptions considered harmful)

2004-04-20 Thread Leon Widdershoven
Guido Casper wrote: Leon Widdershoven wrote: Guido Casper wrote: Yes that might be one reason. Another one IMO is that it's much easier to (conceptually) come up with a reusable sitemap component (being a specialized thing) than it is to come up with a reusable flow component. Guido I think

OT: [RT] Use of flowscript or the pyramid of contracts

2004-04-19 Thread Leon Widdershoven
Hi, I, as a user, do not differentiate between Components and utility classes and functions. I think that when a cocoon developer hears Component, (s)he thinks of classes which obey some sort of contract by implementing an interface. If I, as a user, think of a component it is a part that does

Re: OT: [RT] Use of flowscript or the pyramid of contracts

2004-04-19 Thread Leon Widdershoven
is more powerfull and better suited to development. Leon Antonio Gallardo wrote: Leszek Gawron dijo: On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 09:01:28AM +0200, Leon Widdershoven wrote: Hi, I, as a user, do not differentiate between Components and utility classes and functions. I think that when a cocoon developer

Re: OT: [RT] Use of flowscript or the pyramid of contracts

2004-04-19 Thread Leon Widdershoven
that Hibernate is quite easy to start with. The moment I get some time off I will certainly jump in the deep and try to survive:) Leon Leszek Gawron wrote: On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 12:32:38PM +0200, Leon Widdershoven wrote: To me, hibernate is overkill and yet another thing to manage. The advantage of esql

Re: OT: [RT] Use of flowscript or the pyramid of contracts

2004-04-19 Thread Leon Widdershoven
Leszek Gawron wrote: On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 03:24:50PM +0200, Ugo Cei wrote: Leon Widdershoven wrote: But I'm glad to hear that Hibernate is quite easy to start with. The moment I get some time off I will certainly jump in the deep and try to survive:) There is a middle ground between a full

Re: OT: [RT] Use of flowscript or the pyramid of contracts

2004-04-19 Thread Leon Widdershoven
, at 1:54 PM, Leon Widdershoven wrote: I had a task to write a web interface to a table with 300 columns. The column names were still in flux. I really did not feel to write 300 elaborate column definitions. XML is very readable, but it was too verbose for me at the time. And as you say, it looks a very

Re: [RT] Use of flowscript or the pyramid of contracts (was Re: [RT] Checked exceptions considered harmful)

2004-04-19 Thread Leon Widdershoven
Guido Casper wrote: Yes that might be one reason. Another one IMO is that it's much easier to (conceptually) come up with a reusable sitemap component (being a specialized thing) than it is to come up with a reusable flow component. Guido I think that is the true question. I am writing an

Re: #{//foo/bar} doesn't work within forEach!

2004-04-18 Thread Leon Widdershoven
Could it be that you are using both Jexl and XPath tags? Stephan Coboos wrote: Hello, I've tried to retrieve an object within a JXTemplate: #{//foo/bar} This works fine outside any forEach. If I'am using it inner forEach, nothing will be printed out: jx:forEach var=something items=${myList}

Re: [RT] Checked exceptions considered harmful

2004-04-15 Thread Leon Widdershoven
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le 14 avr. 04, à 20:00, Leon Widdershoven a écrit : ...I don't think throws Exception in all declarations is a plus; a function which operates on files could have an IOException, a function which operates on numbers a NumberException or something akin; in essence

Re: GroovyMarkup syntax works!

2004-04-15 Thread Leon Widdershoven
You don't have access to a ServiceManager or ComponentManager (provided by cocoon and holding the configured pools)? Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le 15 avr. 04, à 18:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : ...You might as well just use DataSource then as this is pretty close to all DataSource is. (Or

Re: GroovyMarkup syntax works!

2004-04-15 Thread Leon Widdershoven
of course, I'm working on a static factory class for myself which does only that:) Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le 15 avr. 04, à 19:37, Leon Widdershoven a écrit : You don't have access to a ServiceManager or ComponentManager (provided by cocoon and holding the configured pools)? Sure

Re: [RT] Checked exceptions considered harmful

2004-04-14 Thread Leon Widdershoven
Leo Sutic wrote: meaning: when cleaning out stuff, you shouldn't throw out the real valuable parts (even if those were the cause that got you in the mess) I think you end up with something like: + If the thing you are signalling via an Exception could be made into a error return value

Re: [RT] Checked exceptions considered harmful

2004-04-14 Thread Leon Widdershoven
Berin Loritsch wrote: Leo Sutic wrote: From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Berin Loritsch Really? I did the exact same thing and got an error during compilation. It must be a stricter IDE specific compiler. I'm not sure that we can count on that continuing to be the case

Re: [RT] Checked exceptions considered harmful

2004-04-14 Thread Leon Widdershoven
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Le 13 avr. 04, à 21:54, Ugo Cei a écrit : The subject of this RT is the issue of checked vs. unchecked exceptions and the horrible things the abuse of checked exceptions does to our code base... Agreed - and I've read some of the stuff you mention, but I have a

Re: To make XML on the fly

2004-04-14 Thread Leon Widdershoven
try localhost:8080/cocoon/samples/linkrewriter/bookdemo/ and pay attention to the headings (index, overview, installing/index) It could also be that yuo want to imitate the Cocoon wiki pages: your trail on top of the screen. I don't know how that is done, but if that's what you want there *are*

Re: Back button of my navigator

2004-04-13 Thread Leon Widdershoven
I'm no wizard but I think the problem is that browsers cache the page. The browser should request the page again when Back is pressed. There is a HTTP1.1 header no-cache which should be set on the page. I don't really know how to do that - something like response.setHeader( Cache-Control,

Re: Back button of my navigator

2004-04-13 Thread Leon Widdershoven
-request-parameters value=true/ /map:transform map:serialize type=html/ /map:act /map:match Leon Leon Widdershoven wrote: I'm no wizard but I think the problem is that browsers cache the page. The browser should request the page again when Back is pressed. There is a HTTP1.1 header

Woody Renamed?

2004-04-09 Thread Leon Widdershoven
Hi, I was thinking to add a bit to the WhatIsFlow (from Bertrand Delacretaz) page in the Wiki, to mention how this integrates with Woody, when I remembered I found a page some time ago that Woody had been renamed to something different. Is that true, and what is the new name? Regards, Leon

Re: disabling widgets

2004-04-05 Thread Leon Widdershoven
) the fact that the xsp was a generator only brought me a lot of trouble so I have a bit of a phobia about that. Regards, Leon Widdershoven

xsp Serverpages generator: Convoluted functionality?

2004-03-22 Thread Leon Widdershoven
hopes, however, so I would really like some comments from the people who actually wrote the generator. Regards, Leon Widdershoven