RE: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-09-04 Thread Reinhard Poetz
From: Berin Loritsch If we to start migration to Fortress in 2.2. I don't see a need in avoiding this reformatting. If we do it in 2.1.2, then yes, we should support old config syntax. Well, when and where can I get started on 2.2? I hope soon when we have finished the

Re: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-09-03 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Berin Loritsch wrote, On 02/09/2003 19.11: Geoff Howard wrote: ... Could someone (Berin?) give an estimate of what the damage would be even if we agree it's a good move? Risk Assessment and Mitigation Strategy: 1) Legacy Components. All legacy components are handled as expected with

RE: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-09-03 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Berin Loritsch wrote, On 02/09/2003 19.11: Geoff Howard wrote: ... Could someone (Berin?) give an estimate of what the damage would be even if we agree it's a good move? Risk Assessment and Mitigation Strategy: 1) Legacy Components. All legacy

CommandManager again (was RE: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM)

2003-09-03 Thread Bruno Dumon
On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 10:23, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: snip/ I think we should do this switch asap. *If* we can solve the commandmanager issue discussed in the other thread, I will make a 2.1.1 release this week. The issue can in fact be fixed immediately by changing the way we use the

RE: CommandManager again (was RE: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM)

2003-09-03 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Bruno Dumon wrote: On Wed, 2003-09-03 at 10:23, Carsten Ziegeler wrote: snip/ I think we should do this switch asap. *If* we can solve the commandmanager issue discussed in the other thread, I will make a 2.1.1 release this week. The issue can in fact be fixed immediately by

Re: CommandManager again (was RE: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM)

2003-09-03 Thread Berin Loritsch
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: m_threadPool.waitWhenBlocked(); to m_threadPool.discardWhenBlocked(); functionally, this shouldn't change anything (I think), and it will avoid the problem in PooledExecutor completely. If you have some time available to try this out, that would be great. Yes, I just

RE: CommandManager again (was RE: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM)

2003-09-03 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Berin Loritsch wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: m_threadPool.waitWhenBlocked(); to m_threadPool.discardWhenBlocked(); functionally, this shouldn't change anything (I think), and it will avoid the problem in PooledExecutor completely. If you have some time available to try this

Re: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-09-03 Thread Berin Loritsch
Carsten Ziegeler wrote: I think we should do this switch asap. *If* we can solve the commandmanager issue discussed in the other thread, I will make a 2.1.1 release this week. Immediately after that work can start on the migration. Berin, you mention above in 3) that the configuration format

RE: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-09-03 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Berin Loritsch wrote: SNIP GOOD EXPLAINS/ Thanks Berin for the info, so with Fortress we can finally forget the double lookups when selectors were used. Carsten

Re: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-09-03 Thread Geoff Howard
Berin Loritsch wrote: Carsten Ziegeler wrote: I think we should do this switch asap. *If* we can solve the commandmanager issue discussed in the other thread, I will make a 2.1.1 release this week. Immediately after that work can start on the migration. Berin, you mention above in 3) that the

Re: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-09-03 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
beware of snips/ Berin Loritsch wrote: The above in Fortress would be redone as: jdbc-datasource id=foo/ j2ee-datasource id=bar/ ... In Fortress, you can do things the old ECM way, or you can incorporate the ID to get whichever component you want and bypass the selector completely like this:

Re: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-09-03 Thread Geoff Howard
Berin Loritsch wrote: Geoff Howard wrote: Berin Loritsch wrote: In Cocoon/ECM we have the following constructs: regular-component stuff/ /regular-component database-selector jdbc name=foo/ j2ee name=bar/ informix name=baz/ /database-selector Without a .roles file would we even have

Re: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-09-03 Thread Berin Loritsch
Geoff Howard wrote: Great - I think we're all looking forward to this. I'm trying to get a handle on upgrade path for current users. Sounds like we could acheive drop-in support for the old cocoon.xconf format complete with my.roles etc. but could switch the default cocoon.xconf (or

Re: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-09-02 Thread Ugo Cei
Berin Loritsch wrote: The new Cocoon should be able to use the new Fortress container. This should have little to no impact on component writers. It boasts faster startup, and it provides easier component definition. I will be happy to do the work. +1 from me. +1. Ugo

RE: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-09-02 Thread Reinhard Poetz
From: Reinhard Poetz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Berin Loritsch The new Cocoon should be able to use the new Fortress container. This should have little to no impact on component writers. It boasts faster startup, and it provides easier component definition. I will be

RE: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-09-02 Thread Giacomo Pati
On Tue, 2 Sep 2003, Reinhard Poetz wrote: From: Reinhard Poetz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Berin Loritsch The new Cocoon should be able to use the new Fortress container. This should have little to no impact on component writers. It boasts faster startup, and it

RE: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-09-02 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
Giacomo Pati wrote: What do you think of the Sept, 15th releasing 2.1.1? Good for me. Then someone else than me has to do the release. I can either do it this week til friday or then three weeks later when I'm back from vacation. Currently I prefer this week, but if anyone wants to do it

RE: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-09-02 Thread Reinhard Poetz
From: Carsten Ziegeler Giacomo Pati wrote: What do you think of the Sept, 15th releasing 2.1.1? Good for me. Then someone else than me has to do the release. I can either do it this week til friday or then three weeks later when I'm back from vacation. Currently I prefer

Re: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-09-02 Thread Berin Loritsch
Geoff Howard wrote: Ok, then I'll be +1. But this raises a point which is for some reason contentious on the list the last few days: Wouldn't it be better not to do this change on the 2.1.x line? I am assuming that this change would break back-compatibility in some points at least of

Re: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-08-31 Thread Jeff Turner
On Sat, Aug 30, 2003 at 08:59:42AM -0400, Geoff Howard wrote: Berin Loritsch wrote: The new Cocoon should be able to use the new Fortress container. This should have little to no impact on component writers. It boasts faster startup, and it provides easier component definition. I will be

Re: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-08-31 Thread Christian Haul
Berin Loritsch wrote: The new Cocoon should be able to use the new Fortress container. This should have little to no impact on component writers. It boasts faster startup, and it provides easier component definition. I will be happy to do the work. +1 from me. +1 for this change in either

Re: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-08-30 Thread Nicola Ken Barozzi
Berin Loritsch wrote, On 29/08/2003 17.25: The new Cocoon should be able to use the new Fortress container. This should have little to no impact on component writers. It boasts faster startup, and it provides easier component definition. I will be happy to do the work. +1 :-D -- Nicola Ken

Re: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-08-30 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
The new Cocoon should be able to use the new Fortress container. This should have little to no impact on component writers. It boasts faster startup, and it provides easier component definition. +1 I will be happy to do the work. +1 - great! -Bertrand

RE: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-08-30 Thread Reinhard Poetz
From: Berin Loritsch The new Cocoon should be able to use the new Fortress container. This should have little to no impact on component writers. It boasts faster startup, and it provides easier component definition. I will be happy to do the work. +1 from me. +1 from me

Re: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-08-30 Thread Geoff Howard
Berin Loritsch wrote: Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Berin Loritsch wrote: The new Cocoon should be able to use the new Fortress container. This should have little to no impact on component writers. It boasts faster startup, and it provides easier component definition. I will be happy to do the

Re: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-08-29 Thread Boon Hian Tek
Berin Loritsch wrote: The new Cocoon should be able to use the new Fortress container. This should have little to no impact on component writers. It boasts faster startup, and it provides easier component definition. I will be happy to do the work. +1 from me. +1 for you.

Re: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-08-29 Thread Gianugo Rabellino
Berin Loritsch wrote: The new Cocoon should be able to use the new Fortress container. This should have little to no impact on component writers. It boasts faster startup, and it provides easier component definition. I will be happy to do the work. +1 from me. I'm scared but I trust you.

RE: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-08-29 Thread John Morrison
From: Berin Loritsch The new Cocoon should be able to use the new Fortress container. This should have little to no impact on component writers. It boasts faster startup, and it provides easier component definition. I will be happy to do the work. +1 from me. +1 from me too :) J.

Re: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-08-29 Thread Vadim Gritsenko
Berin Loritsch wrote: The new Cocoon should be able to use the new Fortress container. This should have little to no impact on component writers. It boasts faster startup, and it provides easier component definition. I will be happy to do the work. +1 from me. +1, but I (still) would like

RE: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-08-29 Thread Carsten Ziegeler
+1 Carsten Berin Loritsch wrote: The new Cocoon should be able to use the new Fortress container. This should have little to no impact on component writers. It boasts faster startup, and it provides easier component definition. I will be happy to do the work. +1 from me.

Re: [VOTE] Migrate from the aging ECM

2003-08-29 Thread Berin Loritsch
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Berin Loritsch wrote: The new Cocoon should be able to use the new Fortress container. This should have little to no impact on component writers. It boasts faster startup, and it provides easier component definition. I will be happy to do the work. +1 from me. +1,