Re: [RF] Chainsaws and Seeds

2005-12-12 Thread dave-
Antonio Gallardo wrote: dave- wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Mark Lowe wrote: Nice charts.. They assume that the same folk that are there at the start of the start line are the same folk that are end or even perhaps middle. Despite having a lot of respect for stefano's achievements and th

Re: [RF] Chainsaws and Seeds

2005-12-11 Thread Antonio Gallardo
dave- wrote: Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Mark Lowe wrote: Nice charts.. They assume that the same folk that are there at the start of the start line are the same folk that are end or even perhaps middle. Despite having a lot of respect for stefano's achievements and the contribution that cocoon

Re: [RF] Chainsaws and Seeds

2005-12-11 Thread dave-
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: Mark Lowe wrote: Nice charts.. They assume that the same folk that are there at the start of the start line are the same folk that are end or even perhaps middle. Despite having a lot of respect for stefano's achievements and the contribution that cocoon has made, I th

Re: [RF] Chainsaws and Seeds

2005-12-11 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Mark Lowe wrote: Nice charts.. They assume that the same folk that are there at the start of the start line are the same folk that are end or even perhaps middle. Despite having a lot of respect for stefano's achievements and the contribution that cocoon has made, I think the graphs are wrong, o

Re: [RF] Chainsaws and Seeds

2005-12-11 Thread Mark Lowe
I've been wanting to add my 2 pence since stefano's "is cocoon redundant" thread. I also admit i'm not a cocoon developer. Nice charts.. They assume that the same folk that are there at the start of the start line are the same folk that are end or even perhaps middle. Despite having a lot of respe

Re: [RF] Chainsaws and Seeds

2005-12-10 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Saturday 10 December 2005 19:20, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: > Niclas Hedhman wrote: > > The orthogonality of Cocoon has "died". Noone talks about views. Noone > > highlights the ability to serve same content to many user agents. Noone > > is interested in truly useful smaller components. Noone ca

Re: [RF] Chainsaws and Seeds

2005-12-10 Thread Sylvain Wallez
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: What can we do? Two things: 1) breath and relax, we are not going to get run over: changing the slope does *NOT* change the nature of the function (they will understand that as soon as they cross that equi-cost point... and complexity grows even faster the more "

Re: [RF] Chainsaws and Seeds

2005-12-10 Thread Torsten Curdt
On 08.12.2005, at 19:21, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:Cocoon is what it is today, but what it is tomorrow is defined by what we, collectively, decide.Amen :)...I also started a long-winded response to this big thread(s) butsince at least a little crowd is going to meet soon at the ApacheConI ended up th

Re: [RF] Chainsaws and Seeds

2005-12-10 Thread Stefano Mazzocchi
Niclas Hedhman wrote: On Friday 09 December 2005 02:21, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: And in terms of moving the "equi-cost" point to the left, there are two fundmentally different variables to consider. for instance, if t y = a * b / x ` \/ total cost of owners

Re: [RF] Chainsaws and Seeds

2005-12-10 Thread Niclas Hedhman
On Friday 09 December 2005 02:21, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote: And in terms of moving the "equi-cost" point to the left, there are two fundmentally different variables to consider. for instance, if t y = a * b / x ` \/ total cost of ownership (y)     ^     |