[Collections] Is commons collections dormant ?

2012-02-14 Thread leandro . pezzente
Hi ! I was curious wether Commons Collections is dormant or not , since last release is from 2010 and this release doesnt support generics. With regards , Leandro A. Pezzente

Re: [Collections] Is commons collections dormant ?

2012-02-15 Thread Benedikt Ritter
Hi, finally I've found the time to answer to this topic :) We had a similar discussion a while ago [1]. Back then James suggested to drop collections completely in favor of google guava. I have started to implement QueryableCollections in trunk anyway, because I still disagree with James. I w

Re: [Collections] Is commons collections dormant ?

2012-02-15 Thread Ted Dunning
I would recommend guava over collections as well so it sounds like you disagree with both of us! :-) On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 1:07 PM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > finally I've found the time to answer to this topic :) We had a similar > discussion a while ago [1]. Back then James suggested to drop c

Re: [Collections] Is commons collections dormant ?

2012-02-15 Thread Gary Gregory
Guava is a fine product but I'd like to see a generics version of [collections]. I wonder what state trunk is in and if could be released soon... Gary On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 1:13 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: > I would recommend guava over collections as well so it sounds like you > disagree with bot

Re: [Collections] Is commons collections dormant ?

2012-02-15 Thread leandro . pezzente
Yes , i know , but , arent other products like Tomcat 7.0 being hurt by being dependent on a pre-generics version of Commons Collections ? Leandro A. Pezzente On miércoles, 15 de febrero de 2012 at 3:23 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:Guava is a fine product but I'd like to see a generics version of [col

Re: [Collections] Is commons collections dormant ?

2012-02-15 Thread Benedikt Ritter
As far as I can tell, it looks pretty generified ;) But as I said, I'm having that name clash error. Okay, so it is consensus, that no more effort (regarding new features) should be put into collections? Benedikt Am 15.02.2012 19:23, schrieb Gary Gregory: Guava is a fine product but I'd like

Re: [Collections] Is commons collections dormant ?

2012-02-15 Thread Benedikt Ritter
Am 15.02.2012 20:21, schrieb leandro.pezze...@hush.com: Yes , i know , but , arent other products like Tomcat 7.0 being hurt by being dependent on a pre-generics version of Commons Collections ? That's no problem. There is no need to update to the latest version. The old versions will be avail

Re: [Collections] Is commons collections dormant ?

2012-02-15 Thread Mark Thomas
On 15/02/2012 20:14, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > Am 15.02.2012 20:21, schrieb leandro.pezze...@hush.com: >> Yes , i know , but , arent other products like Tomcat 7.0 being hurt >> by being dependent on a pre-generics version of Commons Collections ? With my Tomcat committer hat on: No. Primarily beca

Re: [Collections] Is commons collections dormant ?

2012-02-15 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Benedict, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > Hi, > > finally I've found the time to answer to this topic :) We had a similar > discussion a while ago [1]. Back then James suggested to drop > collections completely in favor of google guava. I have started to > implement QueryableCollections in trunk any

Re: [Collections] Is commons collections dormant ?

2012-02-15 Thread Matt Benson
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Jörg Schaible wrote: > Hi Benedict, > > Benedikt Ritter wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> finally I've found the time to answer to this topic :) We had a similar >> discussion a while ago [1]. Back then James suggested to drop >> collections completely in favor of google guava

Re: [Collections] Is commons collections dormant ?

2012-02-15 Thread James Ring
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Matt Benson wrote: > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Jörg Schaible wrote: >> Hi Benedict, >> >> Benedikt Ritter wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> finally I've found the time to answer to this topic :) We had a similar >>> discussion a while ago [1]. Back then James sugg

Re: [Collections] Is commons collections dormant ?

2012-02-15 Thread Simone Tripodi
Bene, please have a look at the javadoc before and see why get(K) cannot be added. HTH, -Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/ http://twitter.com/simonetripodi http://www.99soft.org/

Re: [Collections] Is commons collections dormant ?

2012-02-15 Thread leandro . pezzente
Thomas , You are right , maybe using Tomcat as an example was not really an appropiate example. Maybe I should have used Hibernate or Apache Derby as an example , but you already answered my question regarding wheter or not generics can afffect such products , wich its actually reassuring despise

Re: [Collections] Is commons collections dormant ?

2012-02-15 Thread Benedikt Ritter
Hi, thanks for the hint. Maybe I gave too little context to my question. I wasn't trying to add something to MultiMap. It is checked in this way in the repo. So I guess get(K key) in MultiMap will never work and can be considered broken (and a ticket should be filed)? Benedikt Am 15.02.201

Re: [Collections] Is commons collections dormant ?

2012-02-15 Thread Benedikt Ritter
I looked at it again. I get it now. But it is really confusing... Forget about it. Good night! :) Am 16.02.2012 00:17, schrieb Benedikt Ritter: Hi, thanks for the hint. Maybe I gave too little context to my question. I wasn't trying to add something to MultiMap. It is checked in this way in t

Re: [Collections] Is commons collections dormant ?

2012-02-15 Thread Matt Benson
On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:17 PM, Benedikt Ritter wrote: > Hi, > > thanks for the hint. Maybe I gave too little context to my question. I > wasn't trying to add something to MultiMap. It is checked in this way > in the repo. So I guess get(K key) in MultiMap will never work and can be > considered