Re: [OGNL] startup questions

2011-05-12 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 7:14 AM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 May 2011 14:51, Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:45 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: However, if a breaking API change is needed, then the package name/Maven ids will *have* to be

[OGNL] startup questions

2011-05-11 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi all guys, as you maybe already noticed, we started working on OGNL codebase, I some question that PMCs/Mentors can help to reply: * is it fine updating groupId to `org.apache.commons` and artifactId `commons-ognl` even if under incubation? * version number: there are 2 way of thinking about

Re: [OGNL] startup questions

2011-05-11 Thread Jörg Schaible
Hi Simone, Simone Tripodi wrote: Hi all guys, as you maybe already noticed, we started working on OGNL codebase, I some question that PMCs/Mentors can help to reply: * is it fine updating groupId to `org.apache.commons` and artifactId `commons-ognl` even if under incubation? +1 *

Re: [OGNL] startup questions

2011-05-11 Thread Antonio Petrelli
2011/5/11 Jörg Schaible joerg.schai...@scalaris.com * version number: there are 2 way of thinking about it. For someone is fine continuing from the old version number, IMHO it should be 0.1-incubating, since in my mind ognl != commons-ognl. Which one sounds better? I tried to see how

Re: [OGNL] startup questions

2011-05-11 Thread sebb
On 11 May 2011 13:00, Jörg Schaible joerg.schai...@scalaris.com wrote: Hi Simone, Simone Tripodi wrote: Hi all guys, as you maybe already noticed, we started working on OGNL codebase, I some question that PMCs/Mentors can help to reply:  * is it fine updating groupId to

Re: [OGNL] startup questions

2011-05-11 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:28 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be inclined to keep the current package name and Maven ids during (most of) incubation. Disagreed. Changing package names etc. should be the first steps in incubation. As should be the publication of an early release with the

Re: [OGNL] startup questions

2011-05-11 Thread Gary Gregory
On May 11, 2011, at 9:36, Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:28 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be inclined to keep the current package name and Maven ids during (most of) incubation. Disagreed. Changing package names etc. should be the first

Re: [OGNL] startup questions

2011-05-11 Thread Paul Benedict
Would you guys be willing to start at 4.0-SNAPSHOT so there's a direct continuation of versioning? Just a novel thought since it might help others to see it's not a re-invention of OGNL, per se, but the continuation of it. On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Gary Gregory garydgreg...@gmail.com

Re: [OGNL] startup questions

2011-05-11 Thread sebb
On 11 May 2011 14:36, Jochen Wiedmann jochen.wiedm...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 2:28 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: I'd be inclined to keep the current package name and Maven ids during (most of) incubation. Disagreed. Changing package names etc. should be the first steps in

Re: [OGNL] startup questions

2011-05-11 Thread Jochen Wiedmann
On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:45 PM, sebb seb...@gmail.com wrote: However, if a breaking API change is needed, then the package name/Maven ids will *have* to be changed. That's not different from a new major release in commons. If you anticipate the necessity of binary changes, consider creating a

Re: [OGNL] startup questions

2011-05-11 Thread Simone Tripodi
Hi Paul! yes I agree, according to Joerg's suggestion, version should be 4.0-incubating-SNAPSHOT. @Joerg: absolutely right, thanks for your help!!! Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://www.99soft.org/ On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 3:41 PM, Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org wrote:

Re: [OGNL] startup questions

2011-05-11 Thread Maurizio Cucchiara
I agree and moreover I hate whenever I try to add a maven dependency through Intellij Idea and I see 3 different major version, realizing that the small version is the latter. On 11 May 2011 15:41, Paul Benedict pbened...@apache.org wrote: Would you guys be willing to start at 4.0-SNAPSHOT so