any plans for commons-logging-2.0?

2012-02-08 Thread Mark Struberg
Hi folks! Over at the DeltaSpike we are discussing about a generic logging layer which we can exchange easily. We have been reluctant to use slf4j because some containers use different layers etc. But jul is also not really satisfying. It should be easily shadeable and use java6 features like

[logging] Re: any plans for commons-logging-2.0?

2012-02-08 Thread Torsten Curdt
Would there be some interest for creating a commons-logging-2.0? I had some code for CL2 version. Basically commons 1.x but without the detection logic. So you pick the implementation by having the right jar in the classpath. Not sure I still have it. At some stage I just gave up. Mostly

Re: any plans for commons-logging-2.0?

2012-02-08 Thread ralph.goers @dslextreme.com
You could look at the Log4j 2 API, but while it supports multiple implementations, is really designed to be an abstraction layer so that user's have a clear line between the API and implementation. For the time being you can find the documentation at http://people.apache.org/~rgoers/log4j2/.

Re: [logging] Re: any plans for commons-logging-2.0?

2012-02-08 Thread Simone Tripodi
hi guys, you have the full support also from my side, a fresh new era of commons-components has to born. I am +1 to work on a commons-logging-2.0. It's clobberin' time! all the best, -Simo http://people.apache.org/~simonetripodi/ http://simonetripodi.livejournal.com/

Re: any plans for commons-logging-2.0?

2012-02-08 Thread Mark Struberg
- Original Message - From: ralph.goers @dslextreme.com ralph.go...@dslextreme.com To: Commons Developers List dev@commons.apache.org; Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de Cc: Sent: Wednesday, February 8, 2012 8:20 PM Subject: Re: any plans for commons-logging-2.0? You could look

Re: any plans for commons-logging-2.0?

2012-02-08 Thread ralph.goers @dslextreme.com
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Mark Struberg strub...@yahoo.de wrote: Hi Ralph! I took a pretty deep look into log4j-2.0 already (even used it for a few sample projects). But I was not aware that it's also an abstraction layer/facade ^^ So by using log4j-2.0 in DeltaSpike, a container

Re: [logging] Re: any plans for commons-logging-2.0?

2012-02-08 Thread Christian Grobmeier
Sorry to ask a bit naive, but does cl2.0 make sense with log4j 2.0 in mind? It seems log4j 2.0 does have such an abstraction and there is slf4j too. Probably it is time to go dormant instead? Anyway, if there are some reasons to continue working I would welcome Torstens approach of course! Not

Re: [logging] Re: any plans for commons-logging-2.0?

2012-02-08 Thread Torsten Curdt
Anyway, if there are some reasons to continue working I would welcome Torstens approach of course! Not that I want to take out the enthusiasm here I am also not sure it's worth the effort TBH. FWIW: for libraries I ended up usually having no logging dependency at all and for projects I just