Re: What are the basic, invariant rules of Apache projects?

2010-05-21 Thread Kathey Marsden
On 5/21/2010 3:56 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Hi Isabel, On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Isabel Drost wrote: On 21.05.2010 Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I'd like to write a blog post (on the foundation blog, or might be a good opportunity to start the comdev blog) about the basic

Re: What are the basic, invariant rules of Apache projects?

2010-05-21 Thread Ross Gardler
On 21/05/2010 15:36, Michael McCandless wrote: I'd love to see some of the more "cultural" aspects of The Apache Way somehow spelled out. For example things like: I'd hate to see the excellent stuff in here go to waste in our mail archives. I think these items have a different objective to

Re: What are the basic, invariant rules of Apache projects?

2010-05-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 4:18 PM, Shane Curcuru wrote: > ...You missed the most important rule: Apache releases must use the Apache > license d'oh...was I right in asking for collaborative review ;-) > > ...One other aspect I think is important: neutrality.  The ASF is a place > where > indi

Re: What are the basic, invariant rules of Apache projects?

2010-05-21 Thread Michael McCandless
I'd love to see some of the more "cultural" aspects of The Apache Way somehow spelled out. For example things like: Health of the community is top priority. Protect/nurture/grow it at all costs. A good chunk of a committer's time should be spent trying to grow the community. EG, when you see a

Re: What are the basic, invariant rules of Apache projects?

2010-05-21 Thread Shane Curcuru
Bertrand - thanks for kicking this off! One key point, once edited, is to break the invariants up into coherent sections, so it's really simple for someone to read through and see what each rule applies to. Voting, Community-led; public decisions; merit? You missed the most important rule: A

Re: What are the basic, invariant rules of Apache projects?

2010-05-21 Thread Nick Burch
On Fri, 21 May 2010, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: I'd like to write a blog post (on the foundation blog, or might be a good opportunity to start the comdev blog) about the basic rules of Apache projects. Looks promising to me. I've only a couple of points ASF releases consist of source code, bi

Re: What are the basic, invariant rules of Apache projects?

2010-05-21 Thread Ross Gardler
Bertrand, I don't want to get into painting the bikeshed this excellent proposal gets posted in. Anywhere is good. I think it's a great idea. I'd encourage a comdev blog but I'm not sure we have the momentum to keep it alive at this point. However, I will do what I can when I can to help mo

Re: What are the basic, invariant rules of Apache projects?

2010-05-21 Thread jean-frederic clere
On 05/21/2010 02:06 PM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Christian Grobmeier > wrote: >> ...a blog post reflects the understanding of the authors as >> you said. I think it would be good to have different authors on this >> post ... > > That's why I'm posting my draft

Re: What are the basic, invariant rules of Apache projects?

2010-05-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 1:06 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote: > ...a blog post reflects the understanding of the authors as > you said. I think it would be good to have different authors on this > post ... That's why I'm posting my draft here, for collaborative editing. I have no problem signing th

Re: What are the basic, invariant rules of Apache projects?

2010-05-21 Thread Christian Grobmeier
>> Another question would be to define what is the purpose of the project: >> Should >> the reader take some kind of specific action (e.g. restructure the project >> he is >> working on), should frequent questions concerning how software is developed >> at >> Apache be answered (than the post sh

Re: What are the basic, invariant rules of Apache projects?

2010-05-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi Isabel, On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 12:33 PM, Isabel Drost wrote: > On 21.05.2010 Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >> I'd like to write a blog post (on the foundation blog, or might be a >> good opportunity to start the comdev blog) about the basic rules of >> Apache projects. > > Hmm - one question tha

Re: What are the basic, invariant rules of Apache projects?

2010-05-21 Thread Isabel Drost
On 21.05.2010 Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > I'd like to write a blog post (on the foundation blog, or might be a > good opportunity to start the comdev blog) about the basic rules of > Apache projects. Hmm - one question that came to my mind reading the list: Who is the intended reader of that blo

What are the basic, invariant rules of Apache projects?

2010-05-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, I'd like to write a blog post (on the foundation blog, or might be a good opportunity to start the comdev blog) about the basic rules of Apache projects. Trying to keep it as short as possible, with links to more info. Feedback/corrections/additions are welcome - I will invite our PMCs and m