Re: [DISCUSS] Crazy or good Idea?

2022-05-11 Thread Matt Sicker
CCLAs aren't a burden for keeping track of, and some companies do use them for SGAs, too; I've gotten CCLAs signed before at previous employers or when I was an independent consultant and got to submit one for myself as the owner. The fact that some companies insist on having a CCLA (usually compan

Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-11 Thread me
To your point, it hasn’t gone over well. It doesn’t seem to have impacted sales (at least as far as I can tell), but they did create a brand spankin’ new Jeep Grand Cherokee for 2022.  While I’m drawing a parallel based on the semantics of name usage (i.e. Apache is a nation name, Cherokee is a

Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-11 Thread Bill Cole
On 2022-05-11 at 14:56:13 UTC-0400 (Wed, 11 May 2022 14:56:13 -0400) me is rumored to have said: The scenario w/ Jeep is the most synonymous to Apache. (We are named for a tribe, rather than a synonymous term or epithet). I’m side stepping the logo for the moment.  The last words I could fin

Re: [DISCUSS] Crazy or good Idea?

2022-05-11 Thread Jarek Potiuk
One small comment. Just the fact that we are discussing CCLA vs. ICLA is an indication that an average contributor who wants to enter into a relationship with a corporate customer w/regards to OSS/Apache related work is at a complete loss. It means that we BADLY need a legal entity that will hand

Re: A way to keep the name

2022-05-11 Thread me
This is more or less in line with what I think we’ve anticipated. I really appreciate you providing the info.  That said… to outreach or not to outreach… that is the question.  — I’m going to try to remain impartial in order to facilitate. (i.e. this isn’t my opinion, I’m just trying to help m

Re: [DISCUSS] Crazy or good Idea?

2022-05-11 Thread Dave Fisher
> On May 11, 2022, at 11:43 AM, Matt Sicker wrote: > > A CCLA isn't sufficient for contributions at Apache, though. An ICLA > is always required to be a committer, for example, regardless if every > breath you take is copyrighted by your employer. A CCLA can be useful > for documenting whether

Re: [DISCUSS] Crazy or good Idea?

2022-05-11 Thread Matt Sicker
A CCLA isn't sufficient for contributions at Apache, though. An ICLA is always required to be a committer, for example, regardless if every breath you take is copyrighted by your employer. A CCLA can be useful for documenting whether a corporation has explicitly approved various individuals they em

Re: [DISCUSS] Crazy or good Idea?

2022-05-11 Thread Dave Fisher
When I first signed an ICLA in about 2008 I made sure that I had the company I worked for sign a CCLA that named individuals. This was for my protection otherwise my ASF work was work for hire. Later that company was acquired and my position was senior enough that all of my work belonged to the

Re: [DISCUSS] Crazy or good Idea?

2022-05-11 Thread Dirk-Willem van Gulik
On 11 May 2022, at 19:37, Matt Sicker wrote: > Small point of clarification: only the ICLA matters at Apache since > contributions are made by individuals. The CCLA is provided for > companies so perplexed by this concept that they feel the need for > more paperwork. Or, lets not forget, those w

Re: [DISCUSS] Crazy or good Idea?

2022-05-11 Thread Matt Sicker
Small point of clarification: only the ICLA matters at Apache since contributions are made by individuals. The CCLA is provided for companies so perplexed by this concept that they feel the need for more paperwork. On Wed, May 11, 2022 at 4:36 AM Jarek Potiuk wrote: > > > > > > > I guess my point

Re: Updating tasks in the HelpWanted tasklist

2022-05-11 Thread Priya Sharma
Hello All, I have added a task to the "Help Wanted" task list as a ComDev project task, though it does not relate to it (but is a good first issue). Please let me know if there are any objections. On Mon, 18 Apr 2022 at 14:23, Priya Sharma wrote: > Thanks a lot, Daniel! > > > On Fri, 15 Apr 202

Re: [DISCUSS] Crazy or good Idea?

2022-05-11 Thread Jarek Potiuk
> > > I guess my point about this is, that small startups usually have problems > of getting contracts. > > I can't count the occasions, where I generated leads at a conference. > After the conference, when we were discussing moving forward, 95% of all of > these died because the customers can't do