Re: ApacheCon community panel

2014-03-24 Thread Rich Bowen
Based on various conversations, it looks like what we'll have is: MC: jzb Panel: * Andrew Grieve, from the Cordova community, will present from the perspective of a project that has needs that might not be being fulfilled * Joe Schaefer will present Infra's perspective * Roman Shap

Re: ApacheCon community panel

2014-03-11 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 7:04 AM, David Nalley wrote: > Maybe Andrew Bayer instead of me. He is a core committer on Jenkins > (which has a strong affinity for CD); and jclouds moves faster. > CloudStack isn't really a CD type of project - at least not yet. While any panel with Andrew on it is woul

Re: ApacheCon community panel

2014-03-11 Thread Andrew Grieve
I'd be happy to participate. This could definitely be a constructive discussion, as I think Cordova's problems are/were actually more from ignorance than from having special needs (project had a lot of turn-over / growth after incubation). One topic I'm hoping to learn about from the conference is

Re: ApacheCon community panel

2014-03-11 Thread David Nalley
Maybe Andrew Bayer instead of me. He is a core committer on Jenkins (which has a strong affinity for CD); and jclouds moves faster. CloudStack isn't really a CD type of project - at least not yet. --David On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 9:58 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: > > On 03/11/2014 08:47 AM, David Nalley

Re: ApacheCon community panel

2014-03-11 Thread Rich Bowen
On 03/11/2014 08:47 AM, David Nalley wrote: On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: It might be more interesting to skip Cordova altogether. The industry is full of ferment about CD. If everyone checks their rhetoric at the door, there could be an interesting conversation abou

Re: ApacheCon community panel

2014-03-11 Thread David Nalley
On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 8:22 AM, Benson Margulies wrote: > It might be more interesting to skip Cordova altogether. The industry > is full of ferment about CD. If everyone checks their rhetoric at the > door, there could be an interesting conversation about how to mesh the > ideas of CD and the id

Re: ApacheCon community panel

2014-03-11 Thread Benson Margulies
It might be more interesting to skip Cordova altogether. The industry is full of ferment about CD. If everyone checks their rhetoric at the door, there could be an interesting conversation about how to mesh the ideas of CD and the ideals of the ASF. On Tue, Mar 11, 2014 at 8:03 AM, Jim Jagielski

Re: ApacheCon community panel

2014-03-11 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Mar 10, 2014, at 4:36 PM, Roman Shaposhnik wrote: Not sure if we have much diversity in what the current > projects do, but obviously Cordova is a good example of a project > that has special needs. > What would be interesting would be to know if Cordova really *does* have special "needs" or

Re: ApacheCon community panel

2014-03-10 Thread Roman Shaposhnik
Hi! On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: > Hello, folks, > > On the schedule for ApacheCon is a community panel. We have an MC - Joe > Brockmeier - but we don't have a topic. Some topics were suggested a few > weeks ago, and the one that sounded the most interesting to me - somethi

Re: ApacheCon community panel

2014-03-10 Thread Rich Bowen
On 03/10/2014 03:46 PM, Benson Margulies wrote: I don't see how you can anticipate anything productive, given the number of board members who think that the concept is evil, or, at least, counter to their vision of the Apache Way. I'm pretty sure that's a misconception. I'm also sure that ther

Re: ApacheCon community panel

2014-03-10 Thread Benson Margulies
I don't see how you can anticipate anything productive, given the number of board members who think that the concept is evil, or, at least, counter to their vision of the Apache Way. On Mon, Mar 10, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Rich Bowen wrote: > > On 03/10/2014 02:36 PM, Nick Burch wrote: >> >> On Mon, 10

Re: ApacheCon community panel

2014-03-10 Thread Rich Bowen
On 03/10/2014 02:36 PM, Nick Burch wrote: On Mon, 10 Mar 2014, Rich Bowen wrote: Do folks think that this will make a good panel discussion (obvious, I do), and, if so, who should participate in such a panel? I'd love to see someone from the board, and someone from the Cordova PMC. Suggestion

Re: ApacheCon community panel

2014-03-10 Thread Nick Burch
On Mon, 10 Mar 2014, Rich Bowen wrote: Do folks think that this will make a good panel discussion (obvious, I do), and, if so, who should participate in such a panel? I'd love to see someone from the board, and someone from the Cordova PMC. Suggestions as to who that should be? I'd vote for s

ApacheCon community panel

2014-03-10 Thread Rich Bowen
Hello, folks, On the schedule for ApacheCon is a community panel. We have an MC - Joe Brockmeier - but we don't have a topic. Some topics were suggested a few weeks ago, and the one that sounded the most interesting to me - something around the release cadence discussion surrounding Cordova.