Re: GSoC & Temporary commit access accounts

2011-07-23 Thread Raymond Feng
I agree with Luciano that GSoC students should practice working with open source project as other contributors do. IMO, most of existing open source projects don't grant write access to the contributors right away. Going through the patch process is a typical approach for contributors to engage

Re: GSoC & Temporary commit access accounts

2011-07-23 Thread Luciano Resende
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 1:03 AM, ant elder wrote: > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Luciano Resende wrote: >> It looks like various Apache projects are voting GSoC students as >> "partial committers". As Apache does not have a formal process for >> handling this type of account requests, regular

Re: GSoC & Temporary commit access accounts

2011-07-23 Thread Luciano Resende
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 16:55, Benson Margulies wrote: >>... >>> Personally I feel that GSoC students should earn commit access just >>> like anyone else. >> >> I have a lot of sympathy for Greg's position. Treating 'committer' as >> a single m

Re: GSoC & Temporary commit access accounts

2011-07-23 Thread Luciano Resende
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 21 July 2011 10:24, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: >> Hi, >> >> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Luciano Resende >> wrote: >>> It looks like various Apache projects are voting GSoC students as >>> "partial committers". As Apache does not hav

Re: GSoC & Temporary commit access accounts

2011-07-22 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 10:30 AM, Edward J. Yoon wrote: > Sorry this is other question but, one of my students asked about > "anyone can jump in and volunteer to be a committer."[1] .. > > What's the exact policy on this? That would be a question for gene...@incubator.apache.org -Bertran

Re: GSoC & Temporary commit access accounts

2011-07-22 Thread Edward J. Yoon
Sorry this is other question but, one of my students asked about "anyone can jump in and volunteer to be a committer."[1] .. What's the exact policy on this? 1. http://markmail.org/thread/jb63zsbenmanr3fs Thanks, Ed On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 5:03 PM, ant elder wrote: > On Fri, Jul 22, 20

Re: GSoC & Temporary commit access accounts

2011-07-22 Thread ant elder
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 1:34 AM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 16:55, Benson Margulies wrote: >>... >>> Personally I feel that GSoC students should earn commit access just >>> like anyone else. >> >> I have a lot of sympathy for Greg's position. Treating 'committer' as >> a single m

Re: GSoC & Temporary commit access accounts

2011-07-22 Thread ant elder
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 7:44 AM, Luciano Resende wrote: > It looks like various Apache projects are voting GSoC students as > "partial committers". As Apache does not have a formal process for > handling this type of account requests, regular accounts are created > for these students, with an Apac

Re: GSoC & Temporary commit access accounts

2011-07-21 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 16:55, Benson Margulies wrote: >... >> Personally I feel that GSoC students should earn commit access just >> like anyone else. > > I have a lot of sympathy for Greg's position. Treating 'committer' as > a single monolithic category drives people away. Right. It is necessa

Re: GSoC & Temporary commit access accounts

2011-07-21 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 01:19:14AM -0700, Ted Dunning wrote: > I completely agree with this. > > Mahout has worked on just this basis quite well. At Subversion we did this, too, during the last two years (we have no gsoc student this year). It has been working extremely well. In some cases gsoc s

Re: GSoC & Temporary commit access accounts

2011-07-21 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 05:58:49AM -0400, Greg Stein wrote: > There was a Git GSoC student that was working on improving the > conversion speed from SVN to Git. He started a project, and one of > those components was to use one of Subversion's wire protocols to haul > over a repository to the clien

Re: GSoC & Temporary commit access accounts

2011-07-21 Thread Benson Margulies
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 21 July 2011 21:55, Benson Margulies wrote: >>> >>> Personally I feel that GSoC students should earn commit access just >>> like anyone else. >> >> I have a lot of sympathy for Greg's position. Treating 'committer' as >> a single monolithi

Re: GSoC & Temporary commit access accounts

2011-07-21 Thread Ross Gardler
On 21 July 2011 21:55, Benson Margulies wrote: >> >> Personally I feel that GSoC students should earn commit access just >> like anyone else. > > I have a lot of sympathy for Greg's position. Treating 'committer' as > a single monolithic category drives people away. (I'll ignore the fact that you

Re: GSoC & Temporary commit access accounts

2011-07-21 Thread Benson Margulies
> > Personally I feel that GSoC students should earn commit access just > like anyone else. I have a lot of sympathy for Greg's position. Treating 'committer' as a single monolithic category drives people away. A typical problem case is someone who sets out to undertake a big, complex, contributi

Re: GSoC & Temporary commit access accounts

2011-07-21 Thread Ross Gardler
On 21 July 2011 10:24, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Luciano Resende wrote: >> It looks like various Apache projects are voting GSoC students as >> "partial committers". As Apache does not have a formal process for >> handling this type of account requests,

Re: GSoC & Temporary commit access accounts

2011-07-21 Thread Kathey Marsden
On 7/21/2011 2:24 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: Hi, On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Luciano Resende wrote: It looks like various Apache projects are voting GSoC students as "partial committers". As Apache does not have a formal process for handling this type of account requests, regular acco

Re: GSoC & Temporary commit access accounts

2011-07-21 Thread Greg Stein
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 05:24, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Luciano Resende wrote: >> It looks like various Apache projects are voting GSoC students as >> "partial committers". As Apache does not have a formal process for >> handling this type of account r

Re: GSoC & Temporary commit access accounts

2011-07-21 Thread Mohammad Nour El-Din
+1 @ Bertrand's idea On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Luciano Resende wrote: >> It looks like various Apache projects are voting GSoC students as >> "partial committers". As Apache does not have a formal process for >> handli

Re: GSoC & Temporary commit access accounts

2011-07-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 8:44 AM, Luciano Resende wrote: > It looks like various Apache projects are voting GSoC students as > "partial committers". As Apache does not have a formal process for > handling this type of account requests, regular accounts are created > for these students, with an

Re: GSoC & Temporary commit access accounts

2011-07-21 Thread Ted Dunning
I completely agree with this. Mahout has worked on just this basis quite well. Where it is deemed important for students to be allowed to commit changes, we have used github as a temporary work area, but all changes committed to the project code have been committed by actual committers with the c

GSoC & Temporary commit access accounts

2011-07-20 Thread Luciano Resende
It looks like various Apache projects are voting GSoC students as "partial committers". As Apache does not have a formal process for handling this type of account requests, regular accounts are created for these students, with an Apache e-mail alias, and access is given to general committer areas i