Try to use Unmanaged e.g for injecting into unit test instances ;)
> Am 25.09.2016 um 20:57 schrieb John D. Ament :
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> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 12:30 PM Mark Struberg
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>>> Basically, one sticking target I see continually is BeanManagerProvider.
>> We already use CDI.current() internal
Reflection calls are not much slower anymore since java6.
> Am 25.09.2016 um 20:57 schrieb John D. Ament :
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> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 12:30 PM Mark Struberg
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>>> Basically, one sticking target I see continually is BeanManagerProvider.
>> We already use CDI.current() internally if it
-1 for a cdi2 module (we can't improve our api in such a case - e.g. for a
better user-experience in combination with java8+)
+1 for a branch for supporting cdi 1.0+ (= current master) + keeping it
compatible with new spec.-revisions as long as possible/useful.
+1 for moving to ds2 in our master (
2016-09-25 21:44 GMT+02:00 John D. Ament :
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 3:16 PM Romain Manni-Bucau
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> > Le 25 sept. 2016 21:10, "John D. Ament" a écrit
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> > > On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 3:07 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Le 25 sept. 20
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 3:16 PM Romain Manni-Bucau
wrote:
> Le 25 sept. 2016 21:10, "John D. Ament" a écrit :
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> > On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 3:07 PM Romain Manni-Bucau <
> rmannibu...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
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> > > Le 25 sept. 2016 20:57, "John D. Ament" a
> écrit
> :
> > > >
> > > > On Sun,
Le 25 sept. 2016 21:10, "John D. Ament" a écrit :
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> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 3:07 PM Romain Manni-Bucau
> wrote:
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> > Le 25 sept. 2016 20:57, "John D. Ament" a écrit
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> > >
> > > On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 12:30 PM Mark Struberg
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Basically, one sticking target I
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 3:07 PM Romain Manni-Bucau
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> Le 25 sept. 2016 20:57, "John D. Ament" a écrit :
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> > On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 12:30 PM Mark Struberg >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > > Basically, one sticking target I see continually is
> BeanManagerProvider.
> > > We already use CDI.curre
Le 25 sept. 2016 20:57, "John D. Ament" a écrit :
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> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 12:30 PM Mark Struberg
> wrote:
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> > > Basically, one sticking target I see continually is
BeanManagerProvider.
> > We already use CDI.current() internally if it is available (via
> > reflection).
> > So no need to upg
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 12:30 PM Mark Struberg
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> > Basically, one sticking target I see continually is BeanManagerProvider.
> We already use CDI.current() internally if it is available (via
> reflection).
> So no need to upgrade it just for this feature.
>
Reflection is inherently slower
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Mark Struberg resolved DELTASPIKE-1206.
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Resolution: Fixed
> support for CDI 2.0 feature
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We should keep BeanManagerProvider etc around anyway. We could probably mark
them as @deprecated.
But that's it. Most EE apps in production are still running on EE6 today.
That's the sad truth :(
There is imo also no technical need to get rid of BMP.
LieGrue,
strub
> On Sunday, 25 Septemb
> Basically, one sticking target I see continually is BeanManagerProvider.
We already use CDI.current() internally if it is available (via reflection).
So no need to upgrade it just for this feature.
> but its because we didn't make a DS version
> that was CDI 1.1+ compatible.
Nope, ALL our ver
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Romain Manni-Bucau commented on DELTASPIKE-1206:
@struberg there was
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Mark Struberg commented on DELTASPIKE-1206:
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Nope will NOT break anything!
2016-09-25 17:54 GMT+02:00 John D. Ament :
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 11:49 AM Romain Manni-Bucau >
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> > 2016-09-25 17:40 GMT+02:00 John D. Ament :
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> > > On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 11:37 AM Romain Manni-Bucau <
> > rmannibu...@gmail.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > 2016-09-25 17:3
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 11:49 AM Romain Manni-Bucau
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> 2016-09-25 17:40 GMT+02:00 John D. Ament :
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> > On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 11:37 AM Romain Manni-Bucau <
> rmannibu...@gmail.com
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> > wrote:
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> > > 2016-09-25 17:33 GMT+02:00 Thomas Andraschko <
> > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com
> >
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 11:44 AM Romain Manni-Bucau
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> 2016-09-25 17:42 GMT+02:00 John D. Ament :
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> > On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 11:40 AM Romain Manni-Bucau <
> rmannibu...@gmail.com
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> > wrote:
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> > > 2016-09-25 17:37 GMT+02:00 John D. Ament :
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> > > > On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 1
2016-09-25 17:40 GMT+02:00 John D. Ament :
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 11:37 AM Romain Manni-Bucau >
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> > 2016-09-25 17:33 GMT+02:00 Thomas Andraschko <
> andraschko.tho...@gmail.com
> > >:
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> > > not sure if a cdi2-module is enough
> > > we should also get rid of some of our api's whi
2016-09-25 17:42 GMT+02:00 John D. Ament :
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 11:40 AM Romain Manni-Bucau >
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> > 2016-09-25 17:37 GMT+02:00 John D. Ament :
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> > > On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 11:34 AM Thomas Andraschko <
> > > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > not sure if a cdi2-mo
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 11:40 AM Romain Manni-Bucau
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> 2016-09-25 17:37 GMT+02:00 John D. Ament :
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> > On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 11:34 AM Thomas Andraschko <
> > andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > not sure if a cdi2-module is enough
> > > we should also get rid of some of our api'
2016-09-25 17:37 GMT+02:00 John D. Ament :
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 11:34 AM Thomas Andraschko <
> andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > not sure if a cdi2-module is enough
> > we should also get rid of some of our api's which are in CDI 2.0 now
> >
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> Yes. I agree. Basically, one sticking
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 11:37 AM Romain Manni-Bucau
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> 2016-09-25 17:33 GMT+02:00 Thomas Andraschko >:
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> > not sure if a cdi2-module is enough
> > we should also get rid of some of our api's which are in CDI 2.0 now
> >
>
> we can switch them of on CDI 2 while we still maintain it on CDI
2016-09-25 17:33 GMT+02:00 Thomas Andraschko :
> not sure if a cdi2-module is enough
> we should also get rid of some of our api's which are in CDI 2.0 now
>
we can switch them of on CDI 2 while we still maintain it on CDI 1.0, that
said not sure we should switch them off, all are not really stan
On Sun, Sep 25, 2016 at 11:34 AM Thomas Andraschko <
andraschko.tho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> not sure if a cdi2-module is enough
> we should also get rid of some of our api's which are in CDI 2.0 now
>
Yes. I agree. Basically, one sticking target I see continually is
BeanManagerProvider. Maybe w
not sure if a cdi2-module is enough
we should also get rid of some of our api's which are in CDI 2.0 now
2016-09-25 17:28 GMT+02:00 Romain Manni-Bucau :
> 2016-09-25 17:22 GMT+02:00 John D. Ament :
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> > Hey guys,
> >
> > Since its inception, DeltaSpike has targeted Java EE 6 and lower, and as
>
2016-09-25 17:22 GMT+02:00 John D. Ament :
> Hey guys,
>
> Since its inception, DeltaSpike has targeted Java EE 6 and lower, and as a
> result the CDI 1.0 runtime. We have maintained a pretty backwards
> compatible code base for 5 years now.
>
> CDI 2.0 is going to wrap up in January, if current
Hey guys,
Since its inception, DeltaSpike has targeted Java EE 6 and lower, and as a
result the CDI 1.0 runtime. We have maintained a pretty backwards
compatible code base for 5 years now.
CDI 2.0 is going to wrap up in January, if current schedules align
correctly.
I'd like to propose that we
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John D. Ament updated DELTASPIKE-1206:
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Issue Type: Test (was: Bug)
> support for CDI 2.0 feature
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Thomas Andraschko commented on DELTASPIKE-1206:
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yup, CDI 2.0 -> DS 2.0
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Romain Manni-Bucau commented on DELTASPIKE-1206:
Will be broken to se
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John D. Ament edited comment on DELTASPIKE-1206 at 9/25/16 3:12 PM:
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John D. Ament commented on DELTASPIKE-1206:
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Good idea Mark. However, what
Mark Struberg created DELTASPIKE-1206:
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Summary: support for CDI 2.0 feature
Key: DELTASPIKE-1206
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DELTASPIKE-1206
Project: DeltaSpike
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