[DRAFT] Apache Flex June 2014 Report

Time to file a report again. Can someone supply usage and installer stats? Other feedback and comments welcome. Thanks, -Alex - Apache Flex is an application framework for easily building Flash-based applications for mobile devices, the browser and desktop. RELEASES -Apache Flex S

Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: Is/Was there a requirement for the playerglobal.swc having to be named exactly this way?

The mxml compiler has a dependency on the name "playerglobal.swc", See compiler/CompilerSwcContext.java, line 351. Source s = (loc.endsWith(StandardDefs.SWC_PLAYERGLOBAL) || loc.endsWith(StandardDefs.SWC_AIRGLOBAL) || loc.endsWith(StandardDefs.SWC_AVMPLUS)) ? The Falcon compiler does not ha

Re: AW: [Installer] Using Alchemy/CrossBridge in the Installer

OK, thanks. I couldn't find licensing information on the crypto library, and was halfway through hand-optimizing the md5 code we currently use when you sent that link. I've finished the hand-optimization and it now computes fast enough for me to use an AS implementation and not worry about ANE or

Re: IOS 7 and Android 4.3 Skinning

On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 1:44 PM, quick6black wrote: > I created a ticket > and > uploaded the skins. Let me know if you have any issues. I plan to work on a > few more. > Aaron, This is awesome! Thanks for the contribution. I will commit this

Re: IOS 7 and Android 4.3 Skinning

I created a ticket and uploaded the skins. Let me know if you have any issues. I plan to work on a few more. -- View this message in context: http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.com/Re-IOS-7-and-Android-4-3-Skinning-tp37835p380

Re: AW: [Installer] Using Alchemy/CrossBridge in the Installer

Also, with Native Extensions, if you use a cross platform C++ framework like Juce, then you can maintain the ANE much easier, just need a windows and mac builders, but can use the same code for both. -Sean Thayne On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 12:46 PM, Sean Thayne wrote: > There is a crypto library t

Re: AW: [Installer] Using Alchemy/CrossBridge in the Installer

There is a crypto library that is much faster than the built in adobe stuff. http://www.blooddy.by/en/crypto/ They don't include much for documentation, but it is very fast, and pretty easy to get up and running. -Sean Thayne On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote: > I r

Re: Let's talk about Flex 5

>From my point of view, Flex mobile should be a big part of Flex 5. To that end, I am hoping that the Android 4.x and iOS7+ skins I am working on make it into Flex 5. Thanks, Om On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 9:44 AM, Carlos Velasco < carlos.velasco.bla...@gmail.com> wrote: > I would expect it to run

Re: AW: [Installer] Using Alchemy/CrossBridge in the Installer

I run mustella directly from my IDE (IntelliJ). I don't have Cygwin installed. MinGW requires no setup. Just unzip a file and away you go. -Nick On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 1:55 PM, Alex Harui wrote: > Yes, but GCC on Windows requires MinGW right? Is that less onerous than > Cygwin? In theory

Re: AW: [Installer] Using Alchemy/CrossBridge in the Installer

Yes, but GCC on Windows requires MinGW right? Is that less onerous than Cygwin? In theory we should already have Cygwin or some unix shell to run Mustella. -Alex On 6/3/14 8:27 AM, "Nicholas Kwiatkowski" wrote: >Alex, > >I use GCC to make my native extensions. GCC is available on both Mac an

Re: [Forward]To Adobe Leaderships - A very bold and crazy proposal about AS4 and Swift

In my opinion, developing AS4 will cost Adobe a lot of money and resources without much profit. If you really want to program for iOS and OS X, why not do it with Swift itself for example? In the end of the day, you could create your very own AS4 and write AVM and LLVM compilers for it. Or compil

Re: [Forward]To Adobe Leaderships - A very bold and crazy proposal about AS4 and Swift

David, Adobe actually killed their AS4 project. A Flash Player with the AS4 VM won't ever be shipped. -Nick On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 12:07 PM, wrote: > The flash player is actually a good thing as a simple distribution point > for the VM. So it's just like downloading a browser or an app or an

Re: [Forward]To Adobe Leaderships - A very bold and crazy proposal about AS4 and Swift

That's one stupid article - swift sucks because it won't play nice with Android or windows... Richard Oren 714-916-2102 > On 3 Jun 2014, at 6:30 am, John Cunliffe wrote: > >> On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 3:04 PM, DarkStone wrote: >> >> "Technologically no, politically yes." >> >> May I ask why

Re: Let's talk about Flex 5

I would expect it to run out of the flashplayer context, using its own free and open source virtual machine, far away from the Javascript rubbish. 2014-06-03 11:37 GMT-04:00 Roberto Cotrina : > Code generator based on template, the template read from DB. > > > 2014-06-03 9:58 GMT-05:00 Gary Yang

Re: [Forward]To Adobe Leaderships - A very bold and crazy proposal about AS4 and Swift

Hi David, As much as I agree with what you said, the problem is Adobe can't hear us from here. Will you please reply "+1" to that thread to add a vote: https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1488634 Anyone who has Twitter and Facebook, please spread the word, vote for it! I think if it's loud enough,

Re: [Forward]To Adobe Leaderships - A very bold and crazy proposal about AS4 and Swift

The flash player is actually a good thing as a simple distribution point for the VM. So it's just like downloading a browser or an app or anything else. The FUD has definitely already taken place via the attacks on Flash in general. A lot of those tech blogs have always been negative on Flash fo

Re: Let's talk about Flex 5

Code generator based on template, the template read from DB. 2014-06-03 9:58 GMT-05:00 Gary Yang : > Hi all, > > I am surprised that I have not seen any related topics. > > Flex has been there for almost 10 years. > > Flex4 has been there since 2009( right? before iOS )? > > What do you think ab

Re: [Forward]To Adobe Leaderships - A very bold and crazy proposal about AS4 and Swift

Opensource won't matter, because the core value is that end users trust Adobe Flash Player, and they install it. On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Nicholas Kwiatkowski wrote: > Andrei, > > There was a lengthy discussion at the 360|Flex conference a few weeks ago > about Adobe open-sourcing the p

RE: Let's talk about Flex 5

Except FlexJS is in addition to also keeping our current Flex. However it will make a strong enough addition to the SDK that could warrant a major release. -Mark -Original Message- From: Harbs [mailto:harbs.li...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2014 11:22 AM To: dev@flex.apache.org S

Re: [Forward]To Adobe Leaderships - A very bold and crazy proposal about AS4 and Swift

Andrei, There was a lengthy discussion at the 360|Flex conference a few weeks ago about Adobe open-sourcing the player. It won't happen. The Flash Player is essentially the Red Tamerian project (open source) https://code.google.com/p/redtamarin/ with a whole slew of properiety, licensed codecs,

Re: Let's talk about Flex 5

So, I guess that’s the answer to Jeffery’s question. If you want to add those features to Flex, I don’t think you’d hear anyone complain! :-) Harbs On Jun 3, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Gary Yang wrote: > Come on!!! > > Websocket is ready! Workers will be ready soon! AGAL2 is coming! > > When you hav

Re: AW: [Installer] Using Alchemy/CrossBridge in the Installer

Alex, I use GCC to make my native extensions. GCC is available on both Mac and Windows (and Linux) and is not a heavy requirement to compile. You don't need Visual Studio to compile .DLLs on Windows. http://quetwo.com/2011/10/31/creating-an-windows-air-native-extension-with-eclipse-part-1/ -Nic

Re: Let's talk about Flex 5

Come on!!! Websocket is ready! Workers will be ready soon! AGAL2 is coming! When you have a table of seafood, you don't want to rob the tramp any more! On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 11:21 AM, Harbs wrote: > I think it’s called FlexJS… ;-) > > Harbs > > On Jun 3, 2014, at 5:58 PM, Gary Yang wrote:

Re: Let's talk about Flex 5

I think it’s called FlexJS… ;-) Harbs On Jun 3, 2014, at 5:58 PM, Gary Yang wrote: > Hi all, > > I am surprised that I have not seen any related topics. > > Flex has been there for almost 10 years. > > Flex4 has been there since 2009( right? before iOS )? > > What do you think about its fut

Re: Let's talk about Flex 5

In the context of Apache and Open Source a better question to ask is: What do you want it to do? What effort are you willing to put in to make it so? On 6/3/2014 11:02 AM, Madhu Dutta wrote: I have the same question.. On 3 Jun 2014 20:28, "Gary Yang" wrote: Hi all, I am surprised that I

Re: Let's talk about Flex 5

I have the same question.. On 3 Jun 2014 20:28, "Gary Yang" wrote: > Hi all, > > I am surprised that I have not seen any related topics. > > Flex has been there for almost 10 years. > > Flex4 has been there since 2009( right? before iOS )? > > What do you think about its future? > > What do you e

Let's talk about Flex 5

Hi all, I am surprised that I have not seen any related topics. Flex has been there for almost 10 years. Flex4 has been there since 2009( right? before iOS )? What do you think about its future? What do you expect it to do? Best, -Gary

Re: AW: AW: AW: AW: Is/Was there a requirement for the playerglobal.swc having to be named exactly this way?

On 6/3/14 12:31 AM, "Christofer Dutz" wrote: > >@Alex you remember us discussing a refactoring of the compiler and to >split up the commandline-parsing and the actual compiling and providing >an interface that I could initialize the configuration as an object and >pass that in to the compiler?

Re: [Forward]To Adobe Leaderships - A very bold and crazy proposal about AS4 and Swift

I hate people who write opinionated articles without bothering to learn anything about the subject. Looks like Matt Baxter-Reynolds is one of them. But then… I can not remember when I read anything really good at zdnet… so it all fit together. Back to original idea - my only question is why bot

Re: [Forward]To Adobe Leaderships - A very bold and crazy proposal about AS4 and Swift

> > > May I ask why you said "Technologically no"? > > > > Because Swift sucks > < > http://www.zdnet.com/apples-new-swift-development-language-highlights-the-companys-worst-side-730150/ > > This is not a forum to aid in the spreading of FUD. All this guy has to say about Swift is that it suc

Re: [Forward]To Adobe Leaderships - A very bold and crazy proposal about AS4 and Swift

Hi David, I couldn't agree with you more : ) So we need to vote for it together in order to make it happen: https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1488634 Share what you think, or simply reply "+1" to that thread, thx! DarkStone 2014-06-03 -- View this message in context: http://apache-flex-devel

Re: [Forward]To Adobe Leaderships - A very bold and crazy proposal about AS4 and Swift

With so much fragmentation out there now would be a good time for Adobe to move forward with AS4. Apple introducing a new language basically does what Adobe didn't want to do by disrupting their developer ecosystem. Not that the action script ecosystem wasn't already disrupted by being targeted

Re: [Forward]To Adobe Leaderships - A very bold and crazy proposal about AS4 and Swift

To John, Okay, I got you : ) That's what a proposal is for, isn't it? We send the messages to their Leaders, and hope for the best : ) Thanks for sharing your thoughts. DarkStone 2014-06-03 -- View this message in context: http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.com/Forward-To-Ad

Re: [Forward]To Adobe Leaderships - A very bold and crazy proposal about AS4 and Swift

On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 3:04 PM, DarkStone wrote: > "Technologically no, politically yes." > > May I ask why you said "Technologically no"? > Because Swift sucks . > The current AIR ADT p

Re: [Forward]To Adobe Leaderships - A very bold and crazy proposal about AS4 and Swift

To John Cunliffe, "Technologically no, politically yes." May I ask why you said "Technologically no"? The current AIR ADT packager, it converts AS3 to Objective-C byte code, so that AS3 applications can run on iOS. So why can't future ADT packager convert AS4 to Swift to native byte code? Dar

Re: [Forward]To Adobe Leaderships - A very bold and crazy proposal about AS4 and Swift

Really not sure Adobe's commitment to our cause. I think AIR has really been the saviour of AS3 alongside the cross compilers and the army of developers. I think without these factors AS would have gone the way of the dinosaur aYo mrbinitie.blogspot.com www.ayobinitie.com www.prestadsng.com

Re: [Forward]To Adobe Leaderships - A very bold and crazy proposal about AS4 and Swift

On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 2:06 PM, DarkStone wrote: > Yes, that's what I've proposed, an AS4 ios/osx packager, is it feasible? Technologically no, politically yes. -- John-Paul Cunliffe Jacobystrasse 27 60385 Frankfurt a.M. 069 45 000 212

Re: [Forward]To Adobe Leaderships - A very bold and crazy proposal about AS4 and Swift

Hi! I agree AS4 sounds cool but I don't think it will happen. And Swift is compiled into LLVM anyhow: Apple wrote > Using the high-performance LLVM compiler, Swift code is transformed into > optimized native code, tuned to get the most out of modern Mac, iPhone, > and iPad hardware. so what

Re: [Forward]To Adobe Leaderships - A very bold and crazy proposal about AS4 and Swift

to zavr, "so what you've proposed is an ActionScript 4 ios/osx compiler or packager." Yes, that's what I've proposed, an AS4 ios/osx packager, is it feasible? DarkStone 2014-06-03 -- View this message in context: http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.com/Forward-To-Adobe-Leadersh

[Forward]To Adobe Leaderships - A very bold and crazy proposal about AS4 and Swift

Hi all, I just wrote a post to Adobe AIR beta forums, all ActionScript developers may have a look and share what you think: https://forums.adobe.com/thread/1488634 DarkStone 2014-06-03 -- View this message in context: http://apache-flex-development.247.n4.nabble.com/Forward-To-Adobe-Lea

RE: [Installer] Using Alchemy/CrossBridge in the Installer

Normal git installs on windows would work. Let's avoid a Cygwin requirement. -Mark -Original Message- From: Alex Harui [mailto:aha...@adobe.com] Sent: Monday, June 02, 2014 3:27 PM To: dev@flex.apache.org Subject: Re: [Installer] Using Alchemy/CrossBridge in the Installer I think you mi

Re: AW: [Installer] Using Alchemy/CrossBridge in the Installer

As long as the procedure is properly (step by step actions) documented, I don't think the requirement for Cygwin is all that bad, especially given the UX improvement it will give to end users. EdB On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 8:18 AM, OmPrakash Muppirala wrote: > On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:13 PM, A

AW: AW: AW: AW: Is/Was there a requirement for the playerglobal.swc having to be named exactly this way?

Ok ... so I do actually get further when compiling without the playerglobal hack, but using the maven scope "external" instead. Unfortunately it seems I'm only able to compile swcs with this. I do get swfs out of the build, but these are not runable. So I guess I will have to re-apply the hack.