Re: Q: Site and unique element names

2005-04-20 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Ross Gardler wrote: >> But then, why not use an ID-Attribute to achieve this? RG> Perhaps this is because we can't use an ID attribute in the site: RG> protocol (I'm guessing, I do not know this to be the case). Can anybody else tell me why? -- Ferdinand Soethe

[JIRA] Closed: (FOR-484) Forrestbot proposal has bad links

2005-04-20 Thread issues
Message: The following issue has been closed. Resolver: David Crossley Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 9:31 PM The "site:" issues are actually fixed. See f.a.o/0.7/ and f.a.o/0.6/ The trouble that you are seeing is because we have not yet updated the top-level docs. Actually we are going t

Re: describe Forrest in 50 words

2005-04-20 Thread David Crossley
Taking the comments into account, we now have this ... Apache Forrest is a standards-based documentation framework which uses Apache Cocoon. Forrest emphasises separation of presentation and content, using a plugin architecture to transform and aggregate various input sources into various

Re: describe Forrest in 50 words

2005-04-20 Thread David Crossley
Brett Presnell wrote: > Ross Gardler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >Brett Presnell wrote: [ snip ] > >> Getting better, but I don't like the last sentence because it sounds > >> like a document collection generated from the command line would be > >> deployed with an automated robot, and I think yo

Re: describe Forrest in 50 words

2005-04-20 Thread Brett Presnell
Ross Gardler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >>>Apache Forrest is a standards-based documentation framework based >>>on Apache Cocoon. Forrest emphasizes separation of presentation >>>and content through a plugin architecture for transforming and >>>aggregating a variety of input sources into one or

[JIRA] Closed: (FOR-485) duplicate header information in How To document generates invalid html

2005-04-20 Thread issues
Message: The following issue has been closed. Resolver: Ross Gardler Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 3:23 PM Applied, thank you. - View the issue: http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-485 Here is an overview of the iss

[JIRA] Updated: (FOR-484) Forrestbot proposal has bad links

2005-04-20 Thread issues
The following issue has been updated: Updater: Ross Gardler (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 3:14 PM Changes: summary changed from Forrestbot documentation has gone to Forrestbot proposal has bad links description changed from The forrestb

[JIRA] Updated: (FOR-485) duplicate header information in How To document generates invalid html

2005-04-20 Thread issues
The following issue has been updated: Updater: Mark Eggers (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 3:10 PM Comment: The following slight change appears to fix the problem. Changes: Attachment changed to howto2document.patch

[JIRA] Created: (FOR-485) duplicate header information in How To document generates invalid html

2005-04-20 Thread issues
Message: A new issue has been created in JIRA. - View the issue: http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-485 Here is an overview of the issue: - Key

[JIRA] Created: (FOR-484) Forrestbot documentation has gone

2005-04-20 Thread issues
Message: A new issue has been created in JIRA. - View the issue: http://issues.cocoondev.org//browse/FOR-484 Here is an overview of the issue: - Key

Re: describe Forrest in 50 words

2005-04-20 Thread Ross Gardler
Brett Presnell wrote: Ross Gardler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Apache Forrest is a standards-based documentation framework based on Apache Cocoon. Forrest emphasizes separation of presentation and content through a plugin architecture for transforming and aggregating a variety of input sources into

Re: describe Forrest in 50 words

2005-04-20 Thread Brett Presnell
Ross Gardler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Apache Forrest is a standards-based documentation framework based > on Apache Cocoon. Forrest emphasizes separation of presentation > and content through a plugin architecture for transforming and > aggregating a variety of input sources into one or mor

Re: Lenya and forrest integration

2005-04-20 Thread Ross Gardler
Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 19:09 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Sorry for the crosspost but it seems to be from interest for both lists. ;-) Hello devs, my customer wants to have forrest in lenya (or vice versa). :) The question that pops into to my head is

Re: Lenya and forrest integration

2005-04-20 Thread Ross Gardler
Gregor J. Rothfuss wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: ... What do both projects think which one should become the main app (lenya or forrest)? that's a funny question :) afaik forrest has no workflow, user management etc, so if you need those, the answer would be pretty clear. I think the question i

Re: CSS in view/viewHelper (was Re: using view/viewHelper)

2005-04-20 Thread Thorsten Scherler
hello all, > > > > > If no CSS is defined in the view then *no* css will be linked in the > presentation. > > > > I don't think this is a very good idea. First users of forrest are > > often novices, and by default, we want to output a slick-looking site. > > We've already heard reports of peop

Re: Lenya and forrest integration

2005-04-20 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 19:09 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: > Thorsten Scherler wrote: > > Sorry for the crosspost but it seems to be from interest for both > > lists. ;-) > > > > Hello devs, > > > > my customer wants to have forrest in lenya (or vice versa). :) > > > > The question that pops into to

Re: Lenya and forrest integration

2005-04-20 Thread Gregor J. Rothfuss
Thorsten Scherler wrote: my customer wants to have forrest in lenya (or vice versa). :) Lenya is officially supporting 2.1.6 (but 2.1.7 is working fine). Forrest is using 2.2-dev. 1.2.3 and trunk require 2.1.7 i'd think cocoon 2.2 would work too after we take the new cocoon.xconf format (with incl

Re: Lenya and forrest integration

2005-04-20 Thread Ross Gardler
Ross Gardler wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Sorry for the crosspost but it seems to be from interest for both lists. ;-) Hello devs, my customer wants to have forrest in lenya (or vice versa). :) The question that pops into to my head is the compatibility between the cocoon versions used by lenya/

Re: Q: Site and unique element names

2005-04-20 Thread Ross Gardler
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: I know this has come up before, but I'm not sure which of the info in old threads is still relevant today so I'll ask again: Well my answer may not be complete for the same reason, but... Why does Forrest expect unique element names in site.xml. Because of the site: linking

Re: Lenya and forrest integration

2005-04-20 Thread Ross Gardler
Thorsten Scherler wrote: Sorry for the crosspost but it seems to be from interest for both lists. ;-) Hello devs, my customer wants to have forrest in lenya (or vice versa). :) The question that pops into to my head is the compatibility between the cocoon versions used by lenya/forrest. Lenya is of

Re: [FYI] SVN server down

2005-04-20 Thread Ross Gardler
Thorsten Scherler wrote: Hello devs, svn: Commit failed (details follow): svn: OPTIONS request failed on '/repos/asf/forrest/trunk/plugins' svn: OPTIONS of '/repos/asf/forrest/trunk/plugins': could not connect to server (https://svn.apache.org) Stay tuned. ;-) It's been up and down like a yoyo toda

Re: CForms and forrest

2005-04-20 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Cheers Ross. :) I will have a look on the code as soon as I can. It seems that the cform stuff right now is not priority one. Anyway thx a million. salu2 On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 12:44 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: > David Crossley wrote: > > Thorsten Scherler wrote: > > > >>Seems to be that I am th

Re: describe Forrest in 50 words

2005-04-20 Thread Thorsten Scherler
:) Nice one, Brett, and welcome to forrest. I only would change just one sentence. On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 07:03 -0400, Brett Presnell wrote: > David Crossley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Here is the proposal so far .. > > > > Apache Forrest is an XML standards-oriented documen

Re: describe Forrest in 50 words

2005-04-20 Thread Ross Gardler
Brett Presnell wrote: David Crossley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Here is the proposal so far .. Apache Forrest is an XML standards-oriented documentation framework based upon Apache Cocoon and separation of concerns. Using a plugin architecture, various source input formats are transfo

Re: CSS in view/viewHelper (was Re: using view/viewHelper)

2005-04-20 Thread Ross Gardler
Diwaker Gupta wrote: Due to the way CSS works, if I have to define new properties for the nav-bar say, then I first have to UNDO all of the changes made by the CSS files loaded by default, and then define the CSS properties the way I want them to. ... A simple option that controls inclusion of defa

Re: using view/viewHelper

2005-04-20 Thread Ross Gardler
Juan Jose Pablos wrote: Diwaker Gupta wrote: Awesome! While we're at it, I wonder why we have those elaborate color definitions in skinconf.xml? Since we are going to use CSS for skinning anyways, doesn't it make more sense to put the color definitions into CSS as well? Just a thought. +1 These wer

Re: CForms and forrest

2005-04-20 Thread Ross Gardler
Thorsten Scherler wrote: Hello all, I am looking into integrate some applications (mainly workflows) written for cocoon with cforms and flow into forrest. Not directly related, but you may find this work interesting http://wiki.apache.org/cocoon/Schema2CocoonForms Ross

Re: CForms and forrest

2005-04-20 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Seems to be that I am the first one in trying to do it. I just did some testing, but I actually I get Message: null Description: No details available. Sender: org.apache.cocoon.servlet.CocoonServlet Source: Cocoon Servlet Request URI dima/bearbeite

Q: Site and unique element names

2005-04-20 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
I know this has come up before, but I'm not sure which of the info in old threads is still relevant today so I'll ask again: Why does Forrest expect unique element names in site.xml. One reason I found in the archives is that you need to have a unique ID to distinguish between two entries pointin

Re: describe Forrest in 50 words

2005-04-20 Thread Brett Presnell
David Crossley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Here is the proposal so far .. > > Apache Forrest is an XML standards-oriented documentation > framework based upon Apache Cocoon and separation of concerns. > Using a plugin architecture, various source input formats are > transformed an

Lenya and forrest integration

2005-04-20 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Sorry for the crosspost but it seems to be from interest for both lists. ;-) Hello devs, my customer wants to have forrest in lenya (or vice versa). :) The question that pops into to my head is the compatibility between the cocoon versions used by lenya/forrest. Lenya is officially supporting 2

[FYI] SVN server down

2005-04-20 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Hello devs, svn: Commit failed (details follow): svn: OPTIONS request failed on '/repos/asf/forrest/trunk/plugins' svn: OPTIONS of '/repos/asf/forrest/trunk/plugins': could not connect to server (https://svn.apache.org) Stay tuned. ;-) salu2 -- thorsten "Together we stand, divided we fall!" H

Re: CForms and forrest

2005-04-20 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Wed, 2005-04-20 at 11:19 +1000, David Crossley wrote: > Thorsten Scherler wrote: > > Seems to be that I am the first one in trying to do it. > > > > I just did some testing, but I actually I get > > > > Message: null > > > > Description: No details available. > > > > Sender: org.apache.coc