Re: Forrest-lenya instance

2005-08-28 Thread David Crossley
Thorsten Scherler wrote: > Ross Gardler wrote: > > David Crossley wrote: > > > Ross Gardler wrote: > > > > > >>The wiki worked well for Cocoon. The big advantage is that it is not a > > >>synchronous medium so it doesn't matter that we will not all be online > > >>at the same time. > > >> > > >>

Re: Forrest-lenya instance

2005-08-28 Thread David Crossley
Thorsten Scherler wrote: > > http://lenya.zones.apache.org:1/index.html > > Please test a wee bit. ;-) I did login as editor okay, but File->New-xhtml failed the first time, second time was okay. Then the create action failed. The new Cocoon error reporting is excellent. -David

Forrest-lenya instance (was Re: Forrest Tuesday)

2005-08-28 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Fri, 2005-08-19 at 00:30 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: > David Crossley wrote: > > Ross Gardler wrote: > > > >>The wiki worked well for Cocoon. The big advantage is that it is not a > >>synchronous medium so it doesn't matter that we will not all be online > >>at the same time. > >> > >>However,

Re: [locationmap] How to activate actions in the locationmap

2005-08-28 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Sun, 2005-08-28 at 18:53 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: > Thorsten Scherler wrote: > > --closed-- > > > > I activated actions in the locationmap successfully. :) I will commit > > asap. > > Cool stuff, great to see we (well, you at the moment) are actioning > Davids request for us to broaden our

Re: use of whiteboard in forrest

2005-08-28 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Sat, 2005-08-27 at 14:51 +0100, Ross Gardler wrote: > David Crossley wrote: > > Thorsten Scherler wrote: > > > >>c) refactoring of "old" code into a new version which would break the > >>usability of the old code while refactoring. > > > > > > I think that would be better done in a branch. >

Re: [Proposal] Development process and a stable trunk

2005-08-28 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Sun, 2005-08-28 at 14:19 +1000, David Crossley wrote: > Thorsten Scherler wrote: > > Before you read this reply, please read again my original reply. > > > > Did you read it, ok then go ahead and please be not offended that your > > name may not be mentioned here or in the other thread but you

Re: *using* metadata in forrest

2005-08-28 Thread David Crossley
Tim Williams wrote: > > That's all right now, it's rough and not incredibly useful at the > moment but it should give an idea of where I'm going with it. Since > it's not a "traditional" plugin, more of an example of how to use the > xpathgenerator in forrest, I wasn't sure if it was appropriate

[jira] Closed: (FOR-649) [PATCH] hlink and vlink colors are not set correctly

2005-08-28 Thread David Crossley (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-649?page=all ] David Crossley closed FOR-649: -- Resolution: Fixed Patch applied. Thanks. > [PATCH] hlink and vlink colors are not set correctly > > >

[jira] Updated: (FOR-649) [PATCH] hlink and vlink colors are not set correctly

2005-08-28 Thread David Crossley (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-649?page=all ] David Crossley updated FOR-649: --- Fix Version: 0.8-dev Version: 0.8-dev (was: 0.11) > [PATCH] hlink and vlink colors are not set correctly > -

Re: FOR-592 - pelt and i18n clarifications

2005-08-28 Thread David Crossley
Gav wrote: > David Crossley wrote: > > | We were using that i18n fix as an excercise > | for you to understand the core processing. > | I reckon that we should take the easy route > | with the suggestion to add a special transformer > | at the end to strip out tags. > | > | I can try that if

Re: Making Forrest serve Lenya content

2005-08-28 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Sun, 2005-08-28 at 23:46 +0200, Thorsten Scherler wrote: > On Sun, 2005-08-28 at 23:33 +0200, Joachim Breitsprecher wrote: > > Joachim Breitsprecher schrieb: > > > I agree. IMO Lenya should serve whatever doctypes the implementor chose. > > > Let Forrest's input plugins do the rest. > > > > On

Re: Making Forrest serve Lenya content

2005-08-28 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Sun, 2005-08-28 at 23:16 +0200, Joachim Breitsprecher wrote: > Gregor J. Rothfuss schrieb: > > Thorsten Scherler wrote: > > > >> Anyway IMO we should just add a xdocs doctype to the lenya default pub > >> and directly serving xdocs. > >> That would allow to handle the content more efficient. >

Re: Making Forrest serve Lenya content

2005-08-28 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Sun, 2005-08-28 at 23:33 +0200, Joachim Breitsprecher wrote: > Joachim Breitsprecher schrieb: > > I agree. IMO Lenya should serve whatever doctypes the implementor chose. > > Let Forrest's input plugins do the rest. > > On second thought... > > Lenya already uses XHTML as its internal format.

Re: Making Forrest serve Lenya content

2005-08-28 Thread Joachim Breitsprecher
Joachim Breitsprecher schrieb: I agree. IMO Lenya should serve whatever doctypes the implementor chose. Let Forrest's input plugins do the rest. On second thought... Lenya already uses XHTML as its internal format. Forrest will be using XHTML2 soon. So why not just use Lenya's internal XHTML

Re: Making Forrest serve Lenya content

2005-08-28 Thread Joachim Breitsprecher
Thorsten Scherler schrieb: http://forrest.apache.org/docs_0_80/locationmap.html Geee... Thanks. :) I saw that document but somehow missed the part about Lenya ;-) Basically you need to transform the html to our internal format first with above pipe you can do this. Add it to t

Re: Making Forrest serve Lenya content

2005-08-28 Thread Joachim Breitsprecher
Gregor J. Rothfuss schrieb: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Anyway IMO we should just add a xdocs doctype to the lenya default pub and directly serving xdocs. That would allow to handle the content more efficient. nah, the default publication is supposed to be simple and widely useable, so xdocs

Re: Making Forrest serve Lenya content

2005-08-28 Thread Gregor J. Rothfuss
Thorsten Scherler wrote: Anyway IMO we should just add a xdocs doctype to the lenya default pub and directly serving xdocs. That would allow to handle the content more efficient. nah, the default publication is supposed to be simple and widely useable, so xdocs is too much of a niche. then a

Re: *using* metadata in forrest

2005-08-28 Thread Tim Williams
On 8/28/05, Ross Gardler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Tim Williams wrote: > > That's all right now, it's rough and not incredibly useful at the > > moment but it should give an idea of where I'm going with it. Since > > it's not a "traditional" plugin, more of an example of how to use the > > xpat

Re: *using* metadata in forrest

2005-08-28 Thread Ross Gardler
Tim Williams wrote: That's all right now, it's rough and not incredibly useful at the moment but it should give an idea of where I'm going with it. Since it's not a "traditional" plugin, more of an example of how to use the xpathgenerator in forrest, I wasn't sure if it was appropriate for the w

Re: Making Forrest serve Lenya content

2005-08-28 Thread Ross Gardler
Thorsten Scherler wrote: On Sun, 2005-08-28 at 18:10 +0200, Joachim Breitsprecher wrote: Inspired by recent discussions on this list I decided to give it a try and implement the suggestions about integrating Lenya content into Forrest. :-)) However, I was stopped short by my lack of knowled

Re: Forrest Tuesday (Was: Bug Days (Was Re: better use of Jira for Forrest))

2005-08-28 Thread Ross Gardler
Diwaker Gupta wrote: On Saturday 27 August 2005 10:33 pm, David Crossley wrote: I would like to deal with "Internal structure is XHTML2" and the associated issues. +1 The *implementation* of the move to XHTML2 would be eased considerably by refactoring our sitemaps to use the locationmap.

Re: [locationmap] How to activate actions in the locationmap

2005-08-28 Thread Ross Gardler
Thorsten Scherler wrote: --closed-- I activated actions in the locationmap successfully. :) I will commit asap. Cool stuff, great to see we (well, you at the moment) are actioning Davids request for us to broaden our perspective from our "pet" projects. I'm still playing with views, but you

Re: Forrest Tuesday (Was: Bug Days (Was Re: better use of Jira for Forrest))

2005-08-28 Thread Diwaker Gupta
On Saturday 27 August 2005 10:33 pm, David Crossley wrote: > I would like to deal with "Internal structure is XHTML2" > and the associated issues. +1 > Do others have better suggestions? > > Perhaps just dealing with the Jira backlog would keep > us amused, i.e. the Issue Tracker is this month's

Re: [jira] Created: (FOR-652) CSS Style Sheets need cleanup and optimization

2005-08-28 Thread Diwaker Gupta
On Sunday 28 August 2005 5:55 am, Gavin (JIRA) wrote: > The current CSS implementation needs a bit of a cleanup, some tweaking and > optimization. It needs to be improved and some styles converted to % in > order to cater for different browsers and user resolutions. A more fluid > design needs to b

Re: *using* metadata in forrest

2005-08-28 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Sun, 2005-08-28 at 12:18 -0400, Tim Williams wrote: > I've been exploring the XPathDirectory Generator lately to actually > *use* the document metadata for driving a site. Our doctype supports > metadata but we don't (so far as I can tell) actively use the > metadata. I'm exploring this in ter

Re: Making Forrest serve Lenya content

2005-08-28 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Sun, 2005-08-28 at 18:10 +0200, Joachim Breitsprecher wrote: > Inspired by recent discussions on this list I decided to give it a try > and implement the suggestions about integrating Lenya content into > Forrest. However, I was stopped short by my lack of knowledge about > Forrest internals.

Re: *using* metadata in forrest

2005-08-28 Thread addi
On Sunday August 28 2005 12:18 pm, Tim Williams wrote: > I've been exploring the XPathDirectory Generator lately to actually > *use* the document metadata for driving a site. Our doctype supports > metadata but we don't (so far as I can tell) actively use the > metadata. I'm exploring this in ter

*using* metadata in forrest

2005-08-28 Thread Tim Williams
I've been exploring the XPathDirectory Generator lately to actually *use* the document metadata for driving a site. Our doctype supports metadata but we don't (so far as I can tell) actively use the metadata. I'm exploring this in terms of a webblog use-case. I'm not so interested in using forre

Making Forrest serve Lenya content

2005-08-28 Thread Joachim Breitsprecher
Inspired by recent discussions on this list I decided to give it a try and implement the suggestions about integrating Lenya content into Forrest. However, I was stopped short by my lack of knowledge about Forrest internals. Maybe someone can provide some hints about how to go on. Here's a ste

Re: Profiling Forrest [FOR-572]

2005-08-28 Thread Ron Blaschke
Sunday, August 28, 2005, 5:55:07 PM, Ron Blaschke wrote: > Sunday, August 28, 2005, 2:37:03 PM, David Crossley wrote: >> Ron Blaschke wrote: >>> David Crossley wrote: > I've started to look at things, and were able to look at the Cocoon > profiler things with "forrest run" in site-author/. Here's

Re: exists selector in locationmap

2005-08-28 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Sun, 2005-08-28 at 11:55 -0400, Tim Williams wrote: > Now it doesn't give an error but when I request a page, it gives me > the pelt.fv file instead of an html page. Any idea what I'm doing > wrong? jeje Yes, that is what it does. ;-) That is only one component. The resolver, that gives you t

Re: exists selector in locationmap

2005-08-28 Thread Tim Williams
Now it doesn't give an error but when I request a page, it gives me the pelt.fv file instead of an html page. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? --tim On 8/28/05, Thorsten Scherler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It is working now. :) > > I was a typical copy and paste error. :/ > > On Sun, 2005-08-28

Re: Profiling Forrest [FOR-572]

2005-08-28 Thread Ron Blaschke
Sunday, August 28, 2005, 2:37:03 PM, David Crossley wrote: > Ron Blaschke wrote: >> David Crossley wrote: >> Good. I could provide instructions how to set things up for debugging >> with IntelliJ IDEA, and profiling with Yourkit Java Profiler, if you'd >> like. > That would be good. Perhaps we c

Re: exists selector in locationmap

2005-08-28 Thread Thorsten Scherler
It is working now. :) I was a typical copy and paste error. :/ On Sun, 2005-08-28 at 06:19 +0200, Thorsten Scherler wrote: > It seems to me that the ActNode is overriding the .m_manager instead of > extending it. Another thing could be the LocationMap. > Yes, I needed to change in Location

Re: exists selector in locationmap

2005-08-28 Thread Thorsten Scherler
On Sun, 2005-08-28 at 09:36 -0400, Tim Williams wrote: > On 8/28/05, Thorsten Scherler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Before I go to sleep. > > > > One thing is handy if you use an IDE like Eclipse and want to debug > > java: > > # Any other arguments to pass to the JVM. For example, to run on an

Re: exists selector in locationmap

2005-08-28 Thread Tim Williams
On 8/28/05, Thorsten Scherler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Before I go to sleep. > > One thing is handy if you use an IDE like Eclipse and want to debug > java: > # Any other arguments to pass to the JVM. For example, to run on an > X-less > # server, set to -Djava.awt.headless=true > forrest.jvma

Re: Location of scripts and css in site

2005-08-28 Thread David Crossley
Gav wrote: > Just wondering, > > When a seed site is created there is the /build/site/skin directory. > > Inside this amongst others are the .css style sheets and the .js scripts. > > Within the skin directory there is sub-directories called /scripts/ and > /css/ > > Should the style sheet

[jira] Commented: (FOR-592) Pelt skin not HTML 4.01 compliant

2005-08-28 Thread David Crossley (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-592?page=comments#action_12320350 ] David Crossley commented on FOR-592: The discussion thread above, explored various workarounds. The easiest is to have a simple transformer to strip the i18n:text elements th

[jira] Commented: (FOR-605) CSS enhancements needed for MOTD area inside Table of Contents

2005-08-28 Thread Gavin (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-605?page=comments#action_12320349 ] Gavin commented on FOR-605: --- FOR 652 has been created for general CSS enhancements. The first enhancement of FOR 652 has been uploaded, if applied please see if the MOTD changes as par

[jira] Updated: (FOR-652) CSS Style Sheets need cleanup and optimization

2005-08-28 Thread Gavin (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-652?page=all ] Gavin updated FOR-652: -- Attachment: screen.css.diff A start at making for a more fluid design. Some minor changes to improve fluidity. > CSS Style Sheets need cleanup and optimization > ---

[jira] Created: (FOR-652) CSS Style Sheets need cleanup and optimization

2005-08-28 Thread Gavin (JIRA)
CSS Style Sheets need cleanup and optimization -- Key: FOR-652 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-652 Project: Forrest Type: Improvement Components: Skins (general issues) Versions: 0.8-dev Environme

Re: Profiling Forrest [FOR-572]

2005-08-28 Thread David Crossley
Ron Blaschke wrote: > David Crossley wrote: > > > Ron Blaschke wrote: > [snip profiler stuff] > > > Some Forrest developers definitely want to see these > > numbers and do want to get their hands dirty with Cocoon. > > There must be a lot that we can do to speed it up, e.g. > > tune our cache; mo

Re: Profiling Forrest [FOR-572]

2005-08-28 Thread Ron Blaschke
Friday, August 26, 2005, 9:23:38 AM, David Crossley wrote: > Ron Blaschke wrote: [snip profiler stuff] > Some Forrest developers definitely want to see these > numbers and do want to get their hands dirty with Cocoon. > There must be a lot that we can do to speed it up, e.g. > tune our cache; mor