[heads up] entity resolver upgraded (Was: svn commit: r292929)

2005-09-30 Thread David Crossley
The last time that we tried this, everything worked fine on UNIX but broke on Windows. Please ensure that it works for you. Do 'build test' and use 'sudo ngrep dtd' to make sure that there is no network traffic. ngrep.sf.net -David > Author: crossley > Date: Fri Sep 30 23:16:38 2005 > New Revisi

Re: Naming convention in Locationmap

2005-09-30 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: > I've started to refactor the sitemaps to use the locationmap. I'm using > the naming convention that Tim suggested during the first Forrest > Tuesday (I've added his notes to the locationmap document in 0.8 > site-author). I published the changes so that we can see the pro

Re: should we publish our forrestbot log on forrest.zones.apache.org?

2005-09-30 Thread David Crossley
In the meantime, committers can follow the instructions at http://forrest.zones.apache.org/ to ssh and view the logs. -David David Crossley wrote: > Ross Gardler wrote: > > Juan Jose Pablos wrote: > > >Hi, > > >I think that it would be positive to publish these logs on the web so > > >you would k

Re: ApacheCon US 2005 Documentathon (was Re: [FT] 2005-09-06 Summary)

2005-09-30 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Just a quick update: There will be a Hackathon on Dec 10 and 11 that is open to all people interested on working with us on Forrest documentation. My tutorial is scheduled for the morning of Dec 10 (if it happens), after that I'd have time to join in for the rest of the day and the day after. U

Re: Naming convention in Locationmap

2005-09-30 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Ross Gardler wrote: > {forrest:stylesheets}/upgrade-skinconf.xsl > would become something like: > transform.skinconf.new-skinconf I find the second version clearer and I think it would be a good idea to use such a naming convention as consistently as possible. -- Ferdinand Soethe

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Thorsten Scherler wrote: >> This was confirmed in response to my recent suggestions to create all >> new features in separate branches that can be integrated (and >> released) as soon as they are stable. > Merging different branches that are have to go to the core are *not* > possible, merging

Re: devs do what we can (Was: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback))

2005-09-30 Thread David Crossley
You are correct. People need to do the work if they have the energy to initiate a release. Other people will follow and help. Same in every open source project. And no-one needs to feel guilty for not helping. When it happens it happens. If not then we will continue on until the momentum gains. -D

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread David Crossley
Thorsten Scherler wrote: > Ross Gardler escribi??: > > Thorsten Scherler wrote: > > > Why do we want to release 0.8, now? > > > > release early, release often. This was discussed and agreed a month or > > so ago. > > +1 > > e.g. views reached their first stable version as prototype. Everything >

devs do what we can (Was: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback))

2005-09-30 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: > I am making no cuts and no inline comments, it would be a crime to mess > with the message Diwaker is sending here. Thank you, Diwaker, you are > right on target. > > Ross > > > Diwaker Gupta wrote: > >>No offense to anyone but if s

Naming convention in Locationmap

2005-09-30 Thread Ross Gardler
I've started to refactor the sitemaps to use the locationmap. I'm using the naming convention that Tim suggested during the first Forrest Tuesday (I've added his notes to the locationmap document in 0.8 site-author). At the time I agreed to the convention, however, I'm not so sure anymore. He

Re: svn commit: r292891 - in /forrest/trunk: main/webapp/ plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.internal.IMSManifest/ whiteboard/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.internal.GoogleSitemap/

2005-09-30 Thread Ross Gardler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Author: rgardler Date: Fri Sep 30 18:24:45 2005 New Revision: 292891 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewcvs?rev=292891&view=rev Log: refactor resolving of 'skin' stylesheets to use locationmap I've not done the equivalent in the new forrest:views plugins because I didn't

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread Ross Gardler
I am making no cuts and no inline comments, it would be a crime to mess with the message Diwaker is sending here. Thank you, Diwaker, you are right on target. Ross Diwaker Gupta wrote: No offense to anyone but if somebody wants to release 0.8 as - refactored sitemaps to utilise locationmap, t

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread Diwaker Gupta
> No offense to anyone but if somebody wants to release 0.8 as - > refactored sitemaps to utilise locationmap, then we (or better this > somebody) has to put some more work into it. It cannot be that we expect > from the usual suspects that they now as well put more work into that > part of forrest

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread Thorsten Scherler
El vie, 30-09-2005 a las 16:40 +0200, Ferdinand Soethe escribió: ... > This was confirmed in response to my recent suggestions to create all > new features in separate branches that can be integrated (and > released) as soon as they are stable. Merging different branches that are have to go to the

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread Ross Gardler
Thorsten Scherler wrote: El vie, 30-09-2005 a las 17:08 +0100, Ross Gardler escribió: Thorsten Scherler wrote: Why do we want to release 0.8, now? release early, release often. This was discussed and agreed a month or so ago. +1 ... Besides, the locationmap is, in itself, a very powe

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread Thorsten Scherler
El vie, 30-09-2005 a las 17:08 +0100, Ross Gardler escribió: > Thorsten Scherler wrote: > > Why do we want to release 0.8, now? > > release early, release often. This was discussed and agreed a month or > so ago. +1 e.g. views reached their first stable version as prototype. Everything that is c

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread Ross Gardler
Thorsten Scherler wrote: Why do we want to release 0.8, now? release early, release often. This was discussed and agreed a month or so ago. I thought we said we need to refactor the whole lot but now we want again release partial work? Refactor the whole lot for a 1.0 release, yes, but the

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread Ross Gardler
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: I agree with everything you say re release early, release often (I have a mail in my drafts folder I will send in a moment, I wanted to hear a couple of other opinions before sending it). Btw: Please also re-consider Tim's excellent mail about doing the refactori

Re: Collaborative editing with Gobby

2005-09-30 Thread Diwaker Gupta
On Friday 30 September 2005 2:47 am, Ross Gardler wrote: > If we can get just three people to drop in at the same time that owuld > be great. So we are not wasting our time we could use the session to > write a How-To on doing collaborative meetings. Please raise your hand > if you will attend (mee

Re: Collaborative editing with Gobby

2005-09-30 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: > > If we can get just three people to drop in at the same time that owuld > be great. So we are not wasting our time we could use the session to > write a How-To on doing collaborative meetings. Please raise your hand > if you will attend (meeting time being suitable of cou

Keyword highlighting

2005-09-30 Thread Ross Gardler
Need to highlight words in your Forrest documents? Perhaps you want to link to a glossary file from keywords. Take a look at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=xml-cocoon-dev&m=112808044409169&w=2 Ross

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread David Crossley
Thorsten Scherler wrote: > > Why do we want to release 0.8, now? One reason is that we agreed a while ago that we should release more often. We also have an improved Cocoon underneath. Features are easier for users to grasp in small stages. > I thought we said we need to refactor the whole lot bu

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread Ross Gardler
David Crossley wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: ... We should do parallel development on the 0.8/0.9 releases and the views/xhtml2 work (done in plugins, yes I changed my mind). What caused you to change your mind? You almost had me convinced that doing the work in a development branch was the

Re: Multipage Editors for Eclipse plugin

2005-09-30 Thread Ross Gardler
Anil Ramnanan wrote: I am continuing work on the Eclipse plugin and I would like to convert the current editors to multipage editors. Basically, a multpage editor will contain two (or more) views. My idea is to have a view for the source code as well as a view for the tree view/content outline

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: > Ferdinand Soethe wrote: > >Ross Gardler wrote: > > > >>>Are you gonna suggest the new release or should I? > > > >>http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&m=111986901417286&w=2 > > > >Sorry, I was a bit terse. > > > >What I meant to say is exactly along the lines that Ross

Re: Starting a 1.0 development (Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread David Crossley
Ross Gardler wrote: > David Crossley wrote: > >Ross Gardler wrote: > >>Diwaker Gupta wrote: > >>>Thorsten Scherler wrote: > >>> > >Added two new plugins for > >refactoring views into the core: > >- structurer > >- themes > > > >Recent changes to views with using jxtg as core

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Thorsten Scherler wrote: > Why do we want to release 0.8, now? > I thought we said we need to refactor the whole lot but now we want > again release partial work? We have ongoing discussions about opening > new branches, doing the work in plugins, ... We already have an agreement to do small re

Re: Re: lost with voice plugin

2005-09-30 Thread David Crossley
Hi HANNAX, would you please take care when you respond to email. You seem to add extra "Re:" to the subject line and that makes it very hard to follow the email discussion. -David

RE: RE: Re: lost with voice plugin

2005-09-30 Thread HANAX
Thanx, of course I'll stay :) __ PÔVODNÁ SPRÁVA Od: "Thorsten Scherler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pre: dev@forrest.apache.org Predmet: RE: Re: lost with voice plugin Dátum/Čas: 30. 9. 2005 14:54:35 > Hanax, > > I will take care of the v

Re: Collaborative editing with Gobby

2005-09-30 Thread Gav....
| If we can get just three people to drop in at the same time that owuld | be great. So we are not wasting our time we could use the session to | write a How-To on doing collaborative meetings. Please raise your hand | if you will attend (meeting time being suitable of course). | | Ross Count

Multipage Editors for Eclipse plugin

2005-09-30 Thread Anil Ramnanan
I am continuing work on the Eclipse plugin and I would like to convert the current editors to multipage editors. Basically, a multpage editor will contain two (or more) views. My idea is to have a view for the source code as well as a view for the tree view/content outline. The advantage of a

RE: Re: lost with voice plugin

2005-09-30 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Hanax, I will take care of the voice plugin and report to the list. Please stay with us. ;-) salu2 El vie, 30-09-2005 a las 14:31 +0200, HANAX escribió: > ok, it's at "Troubles with views and voice plugin", sorry for double > attaching files... anyway why only admin can delete attachments? >

RE: Re: lost with voice plugin

2005-09-30 Thread HANAX
ok, it's at "Troubles with views and voice plugin", sorry for double attaching files... anyway why only admin can delete attachments? __ PÔVODNÁ SPRÁVA Od: "Ross Gardler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pre: dev@forrest.apache.org Predmet: Re

[jira] Updated: (FOR-683) Troubles with views and voice plugin

2005-09-30 Thread Tom HANAX (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-683?page=all ] Tom HANAX updated FOR-683: -- Attachment: voice-markup.ft voice.fv Currently it doesn't work, please chceck it... > Troubles with views and voice plugin > -

[jira] Updated: (FOR-683) Troubles with views and voice plugin

2005-09-30 Thread Tom HANAX (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-683?page=all ] Tom HANAX updated FOR-683: -- Attachment: voice.fv > Troubles with views and voice plugin > > > Key: FOR-683 > URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/brow

[jira] Updated: (FOR-683) Troubles with views and voice plugin

2005-09-30 Thread Tom HANAX (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-683?page=all ] Tom HANAX updated FOR-683: -- Attachment: voice-markup.ft > Troubles with views and voice plugin > > > Key: FOR-683 > URL: http://issues.apache.org/ji

[jira] Created: (FOR-683) Troubles with views and voice plugin

2005-09-30 Thread Tom HANAX (JIRA)
Troubles with views and voice plugin Key: FOR-683 URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-683 Project: Forrest Type: Task Components: Plugins (general issues) Environment: Windows Reporter: Tom HANAX Priority: B

Re: A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Why do we want to release 0.8, now? I thought we said we need to refactor the whole lot but now we want again release partial work? We have ongoing discussions about opening new branches, doing the work in plugins, ... Sorry, but it is starting to get real confusing. We need a final decision ba

Re: [Proposal] rollback

2005-09-30 Thread Thorsten Scherler
Done. BTW using --force for svn is evil because it will haunt you! ;-) I needed to delete a contract that I once added/modified with --force. Log: cd $FORREST_HOME/whiteboard/plugins/org.apache.forrest.plugin.internal.view svn merge -r HEAD:280939 https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/forrest/trunk/w

[jira] Closed: (FOR-513) Messages from Cocoon about "Lazy mode"

2005-09-30 Thread Ross Gardler (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/FOR-513?page=all ] Ross Gardler closed FOR-513: Resolution: Fixed I can cnfirm this is fixed with the latest SVN head. Be sure to: svn up cd main ./build.sh clean ./build.sh build > Messages from Cocoon about "L

A 0.8 release? (was Re: [Proposal] rollback)

2005-09-30 Thread Ross Gardler
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Ross Gardler wrote: Are you gonna suggest the new release or should I? http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&m=111986901417286&w=2 Sorry, I was a bit terse. What I meant to say is exactly along the lines that Ross quoted here (thanks, I'll add the title of

Re: [Proposal] rollback

2005-09-30 Thread Ferdinand Soethe
Ross Gardler wrote: >> Are you gonna suggest the new release or should I? > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&m=111986901417286&w=2 Sorry, I was a bit terse. What I meant to say is exactly along the lines that Ross quoted here (thanks, I'll add the title of Mc. Quickfind :-)). In ot

Re: Collaborative editing with Gobby

2005-09-30 Thread Ross Gardler
Sjur Moshagen wrote: Den 29. sep. 2005 kl. 20.10 skrev Nicola Ken Barozzi: In this way during real-time collaborative sessions, we can all code together, or see others code. http://socialsoftware.weblogsinc.com/entry/1234000410060570/ http://gobby.0x539.de/ Nice! (shame it is GPL, but we ca

Re: lost with voice plugin

2005-09-30 Thread Ross Gardler
HANAX wrote: OK, after many readings and new informations I give up... :( I can't make it run, currently I see error Request URI index.html cause Lexical error at line 1, column 1. Encountered: "{" (123), after : "" I've attached simplified versions of my voice.fv and voice-markup.ft files, c

Re: [Proposal] rollback

2005-09-30 Thread Ross Gardler
Ferdinand Soethe wrote: Thorsten Scherler wrote: I reverted the plugins and keep working on the new plugins till we settle this discussion about branching or not. That makes user and dev using views like they were used to do before. Are you gonna suggest the new release or should I

Re: [Shockwave Flash] ?

2005-09-30 Thread Cyriaque Dupoirieux
Thorsten Scherler a écrit : Why do you not write a contract? I know, I cannot generate anymore my view site since FOR-675... :-( I don't have the skill to help you on this problem of commons-jxpath-/ver/.jar So I subscribed to this FOR and I am working on my skinned site at the moment. I