Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-17 Thread Jason Dillon
I'm trying to motivate to writing this... :-\ --jason On Aug 16, 2006, at 7:41 PM, David Blevins wrote: On Aug 16, 2006, at 7:13 AM, Kevan Miller wrote: On Aug 16, 2006, at 3:56 AM, Jason Dillon wrote: What is the status on 1.1.1 wrt this change? Can I go ahead and make these changes?

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-17 Thread Jason Dillon
On Aug 17, 2006, at 11:10 AM, Alan D. Cabrera wrote: David Blevins wrote: Ok, let's go with "specs/tags/-" This is my preference as well. It is easy enough to change later if/when the top-level tags dir becomes unwieldy... so I am fine with this. --jason

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-17 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
David Blevins wrote: On Aug 16, 2006, at 5:16 PM, Jason Dillon wrote: On Aug 16, 2006, at 4:38 PM, David Blevins wrote: On Aug 16, 2006, at 3:28 PM, Jason Dillon wrote: On Aug 16, 2006, at 3:21 PM, David Blevins wrote: I guess I'd still prefer we do - for the tag names as maven does. I'm

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-17 Thread Dain Sundstrom
I'm ok with dropping it. -dain On Aug 16, 2006, at 1:40 PM, Jason Dillon wrote: I have always been in favor of dropping any uber-jars. They cause more problems then they are worth. As for RTC... I am not so sure that this applies really. Its not going to surprise anyone, its not adding

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-16 Thread David Blevins
On Aug 16, 2006, at 5:16 PM, Jason Dillon wrote: On Aug 16, 2006, at 4:38 PM, David Blevins wrote: On Aug 16, 2006, at 3:28 PM, Jason Dillon wrote: On Aug 16, 2006, at 3:21 PM, David Blevins wrote: I guess I'd still prefer we do - for the tag names as maven does. I'm planning on putting

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-16 Thread David Blevins
On Aug 16, 2006, at 7:13 AM, Kevan Miller wrote: On Aug 16, 2006, at 3:56 AM, Jason Dillon wrote: What is the status on 1.1.1 wrt this change? Can I go ahead and make these changes? My reading of Matt's note (which I agree with) is that you should wait until 1.1.1 has been shipped (unl

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-16 Thread Jason Dillon
On Aug 16, 2006, at 4:38 PM, David Blevins wrote: On Aug 16, 2006, at 3:28 PM, Jason Dillon wrote: On Aug 16, 2006, at 3:21 PM, David Blevins wrote: I guess I'd still prefer we do - for the tag names as maven does. I'm planning on putting - under / but m2 handles this, all it needs it the

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-16 Thread David Blevins
On Aug 16, 2006, at 3:28 PM, Jason Dillon wrote: On Aug 16, 2006, at 3:21 PM, David Blevins wrote: I guess I'd still prefer we do - for the tag names as maven does. I'm planning on putting - under / but m2 handles this, all it needs it the root to exist. I see. When I suggested "specs/

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-16 Thread Jason Dillon
On Aug 16, 2006, at 3:21 PM, David Blevins wrote: I guess I'd still prefer we do - for the tag names as maven does. I'm planning on putting - under / but m2 handles this, all it needs it the root to exist. There's also a small catch in that the directories we've been using are not the a

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-16 Thread David Blevins
I guess I'd still prefer we do - for the tag names as maven does. There's also a small catch in that the directories we've been using are not the artifactIds. -David On Aug 16, 2006, at 2:06 PM, Jason Dillon wrote: Does not really look like anything needs to be moved. The only things (

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-16 Thread Jason Dillon
Does not really look like anything needs to be moved. The only things (other than svn ci) would be svn mkdir for each spec in tags, since mvn release will not make that tree... as in: svn mkdir https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/geronimo/specs/tags/ geronimo-spec-activation svn mkdir https:/

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-16 Thread David Jencks
On Aug 16, 2006, at 1:40 PM, Jason Dillon wrote: I have always been in favor of dropping any uber-jars. They cause more problems then they are worth. As for RTC... I am not so sure that this applies really. Its not going to surprise anyone, its not adding any new code... just fixing up

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-16 Thread Jason Dillon
I have always been in favor of dropping any uber-jars. They cause more problems then they are worth. As for RTC... I am not so sure that this applies really. Its not going to surprise anyone, its not adding any new code... just fixing up the poms and moving a few bits around in svn. But

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-16 Thread Kevan Miller
On Aug 16, 2006, at 3:56 AM, Jason Dillon wrote: What is the status on 1.1.1 wrt this change? Can I go ahead and make these changes? My reading of Matt's note (which I agree with) is that you should wait until 1.1.1 has been shipped (unless 1.1.1 runs into an extended delay in releasing

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-16 Thread Jason Dillon
What is the status on 1.1.1 wrt this change? Can I go ahead and make these changes? --jason On Aug 12, 2006, at 12:16 AM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: Jason, I'm +1 on the change. In order to release 1.1.1 we need to release an updated version of the J2EE_JAAC specs. I am waiting for feedba

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-12 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Jason, I'm +1 on the change. In order to release 1.1.1 we need to release an updated version of the J2EE_JAAC specs. I am waiting for feedback from Geir on some licensing issues as well as a TCK run that Kevan is doing. That said I'd prefer to wait until the we cut the 1.1.1 release. If it

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-11 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
Jason van Zyl wrote: On 11 Aug 06, at 7:05 PM 11 Aug 06, Jason Dillon wrote: I'm going to let this sit for the weekend, and if there are no objections I'd like to implement this. Or do we need a formal vote to to this? You seem to have everyone's buy in, you've made the proposal and prov

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-11 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
This is a good idea. Regards, Alan Jason Dillon wrote: On Aug 11, 2006, at 12:32 PM, David Blevins wrote: Have you thought about using specs/tags/- for the tag names? That's what maven does, so I'm guessing you noticed and didn't like it for some reason. The issue with that is that specs

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-11 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 11 Aug 06, at 7:05 PM 11 Aug 06, Jason Dillon wrote: I'm going to let this sit for the weekend, and if there are no objections I'd like to implement this. Or do we need a formal vote to to this? You seem to have everyone's buy in, you've made the proposal and provided reasoning. Lazy

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-11 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 11 Aug 06, at 3:15 PM 11 Aug 06, Jason Dillon wrote: A while ago there was talks about independently versioning specs, and Alan started a reorg branch which gives each spec module its own trunk+branches+tags... I have been thinking about this for a while, and with the recent desire to

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-11 Thread Jason Dillon
I'm going to let this sit for the weekend, and if there are no objections I'd like to implement this. Or do we need a formal vote to to this? --jason On Aug 11, 2006, at 12:44 PM, Dain Sundstrom wrote: This feels like an excellent compromise where we can easily build them together and the

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-11 Thread Joe Bohn
Makes sense to me too. +1 Joe Jason Dillon wrote: A while ago there was talks about independently versioning specs, and Alan started a reorg branch which gives each spec module its own trunk +branches+tags... I have been thinking about this for a while, and with the recent desire to spli

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-11 Thread Jason Dillon
On Aug 11, 2006, at 12:32 PM, David Blevins wrote: Have you thought about using specs/tags/- for the tag names? That's what maven does, so I'm guessing you noticed and didn't like it for some reason. The issue with that is that specs/tags becomes massive over time and not easy to grok.

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-11 Thread Dain Sundstrom
This feels like an excellent compromise where we can easily build them together and they can be independently versioned. -dain On Aug 11, 2006, at 12:15 PM, Jason Dillon wrote: A while ago there was talks about independently versioning specs, and Alan started a reorg branch which gives each

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-11 Thread Prasad Kashyap
This is a good idea. I like it. +1 Cheers Prasad On 8/11/06, Aaron Mulder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Sounds fine to me. Thanks, Aaron On 8/11/06, Jason Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A while ago there was talks about independently versioning specs, and > Alan started a reorg branch

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-11 Thread Matt Hogstrom
I like the direction. I think David's comment about tags/artifact-version works also but tags will get a little busy. If one approach is closer to Maven behaviour in terms of recommended practices I'd go with that . Jason Dillon wrote: A while ago there was talks about independently versioni

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-11 Thread Aaron Mulder
Sounds fine to me. Thanks, Aaron On 8/11/06, Jason Dillon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: A while ago there was talks about independently versioning specs, and Alan started a reorg branch which gives each spec module its own trunk +branches+tags... I have been thinking about this for a while, a

Re: Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-11 Thread David Blevins
Great proposal, I like this. Comment below... On Aug 11, 2006, at 12:15 PM, Jason Dillon wrote: [...] So, here is what I propose: specs/trunk/pom.xml specs/trunk/ specs/tags// Have you thought about using specs/tags/- for the tag names? That's what maven does, so I'm guessing

Organization and versioning of specs; a new proposal

2006-08-11 Thread Jason Dillon
A while ago there was talks about independently versioning specs, and Alan started a reorg branch which gives each spec module its own trunk +branches+tags... I have been thinking about this for a while, and with the recent desire to split off more modules from geronimo/trunk I've been pon