Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-28 Thread Andy Piper
At 09:39 AM 10/28/2005, Kresten Krab Thorup wrote: The Trifork RMI/IIOP has a quite decent implementation of all of the javax.rmi.CORBA stuff that we can bring right in with little modification, so I was thinking that we should use that. However, if you know that those ValueHandlers are good, we

Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-28 Thread Andy Piper
At 08:07 PM 10/27/2005, Matt Hogstrom wrote: I think for those platforms you mention below the IBM is the only JDK to choose from. Although, on Windows and Linux its a pretty good choice too :) Of course I would beg to differ ;) Have you fired G up on JRockit yet? I'd be curious to compare

Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-28 Thread Kresten Krab Thorup
On Oct 27, 2005, at 5:06 PM, Andy Piper wrote: The latest JRockit implements the appropriate parts of Unsafe - I know because I made them put it in so that I could implement the WebLogic ValueHandler on top of it. But why not just use the VM's ValueHandler? The Sun and IBM one's are bot

Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-27 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
On 10/27/2005 5:39 AM, Kresten Krab Thorup wrote: There is no doubt in my mind that we should build a complete stand- alone and quality ORB. Once we're up and running, we might even see Sun chime in, and have them adopt this the same way we've seen with many other Apache Java projects. The

Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-27 Thread Matt Hogstrom
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Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-27 Thread Andy Piper
Somehow my spam filter removed your original e-mail At 07:09 PM 10/26/2005, Rick McGuire wrote: Actually, then don't. The IBM JVM certainly doesn't, and I don't believe JRocket does either. And it is JRockit uses the Sun ORB. The IBM VM is the notable exception I referred to. That's why I a

Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-27 Thread Andy Piper
At 01:51 PM 10/27/2005, Kresten Krab Thorup wrote: One issue is that RMI needs to be able to write the value of a final instance field (to de-serialize an object) and this is something that cannot be done with reflection. So for this we are using com.sun.Unsafe (which is the internal Sun API to i

Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-27 Thread Lance J. Andersen
You can have a J2EE 1.4 compatible product which soley supports J2SE 1.5 as long as your implementation passes CTS. The minimum requirement is J2SE 1.4. Jacek Laskowski wrote: John Sisson wrote: I think we should be supporting 1.4.2 (and 1.5) for a while, as many large enterprise systems a

Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-27 Thread Kresten Krab Thorup
On Oct 26, 2005, at 7:39 PM, Matt Hogstrom wrote: Can I ask why portability is critical? Most VM's (with one notable exception) use the Sun ORB so depending on it doesn't seem such a big deal to me, especially if its a necessary evil. I agree support for J2SE 5.0 is essential, but its pretty e

Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-27 Thread Kresten Krab Thorup
I pulled down the code an it looks like a lot of IIOP stuff is there, what is missing for a full ORB? I'm not sure how I can help with this without the full orb code. If we had that, I could try integrating it into OpenEJB, but I am completely lost. Sure, there is not an orb there yet; an

Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-27 Thread Kresten Krab Thorup
As far as I remember, with the 1.3 CTS there was signature tests that would allow testing "J2EE 1.3 Compatible" on a 1.4 VM. I have not seen the equivalent J2EE 1.4 tests, but there may be (or perhaps coming) a similar set of tests that allow a J2EE 1.4 compatibility test to complete on a

Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
One reason is that we may need something like this for harmony... On Oct 26, 2005, at 1:16 PM, Andy Piper wrote: At 04:26 PM 10/26/2005, Rick McGuire wrote: The most critical need right now is to have a replacement to the Sun ORB that would allow portability to other JVM impelementations.

Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-27 Thread Jacek Laskowski
John Sisson wrote: I think we should be supporting 1.4.2 (and 1.5) for a while, as many large enterprise systems are slow (like a year or two behind) to move to recent (1.5) versions of Java, for many reasons. J2EE 1.4 requires Java 1.4 whereas Java EE 1.5 does Java 5 (the acronyms used in t

Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-26 Thread John Sisson
Lars Kühne wrote: Alan D. Cabrera wrote: I want to extend an invitation out to all the OpenORB developers who might be interested in helping out. Lots of great work out here! I'm one of them, but I don't use Geronimo and I haven't looked at G's architecture. Some of these points have al

Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-26 Thread Lars Kühne
Alan D. Cabrera wrote: I want to extend an invitation out to all the OpenORB developers who might be interested in helping out. Lots of great work out here! I'm one of them, but I don't use Geronimo and I haven't looked at G's architecture. Some of these points have already been made in t

Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-26 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
Kresten Krab Thorup wrote, On 10/26/2005 7:51 AM: As Alan suggests, I think we should try to find the people that are interested in participating in this project, and start working on some adding stuff to the Wiki in relations to this. I think we need to find a smaller forum where we can

Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-26 Thread Rick McGuire
Calvin Austin wrote: Rick McGuire wrote: Andy Piper wrote: At 04:26 PM 10/26/2005, Rick McGuire wrote: The most critical need right now is to have a replacement to the Sun ORB that would allow portability to other JVM impelementations. The lack of a full-function compliant ORB is the ma

Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-26 Thread Calvin Austin
Rick McGuire wrote: Andy Piper wrote: At 04:26 PM 10/26/2005, Rick McGuire wrote: The most critical need right now is to have a replacement to the Sun ORB that would allow portability to other JVM impelementations. The lack of a full-function compliant ORB is the main factor locking Geron

Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-26 Thread Rick McGuire
Andy Piper wrote: At 04:26 PM 10/26/2005, Rick McGuire wrote: The most critical need right now is to have a replacement to the Sun ORB that would allow portability to other JVM impelementations. The lack of a full-function compliant ORB is the main factor locking Geronimo in to the Sun 1.4.

Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-26 Thread Matt Hogstrom
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Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-26 Thread Andy Piper
At 04:26 PM 10/26/2005, Rick McGuire wrote: The most critical need right now is to have a replacement to the Sun ORB that would allow portability to other JVM impelementations. The lack of a full-function compliant ORB is the main factor locking Geronimo in to the Sun 1.4.2 JVM. I think the ge

Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-26 Thread Rick McGuire
Kresten Krab Thorup wrote: As Alan suggests, I think we should try to find the people that are interested in participating in this project, and start working on some adding stuff to the Wiki in relations to this. I think we need to find a smaller forum where we can discuss the architectur

Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-26 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Oct 26, 2005, at 10:51 AM, Kresten Krab Thorup wrote: As Alan suggests, I think we should try to find the people that are interested in participating in this project, and start working on some adding stuff to the Wiki in relations to this. I think we need to find a smaller forum where

Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-26 Thread Kresten Krab Thorup
As Alan suggests, I think we should try to find the people that are interested in participating in this project, and start working on some adding stuff to the Wiki in relations to this. I think we need to find a smaller forum where we can discuss the architecture of the ORB itself. How d

Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-25 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
I want to extend an invitation out to all the OpenORB developers who might be interested in helping out. Lots of great work out here! Regards, Alan Dain Sundstrom wrote, On 10/25/2005 8:19 AM: For those of you that missed it Kresten wrote in the JIRA entry:

Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-25 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
I think that the intention here is pretty clear. How do you think we should get started? geir On Oct 25, 2005, at 11:31 AM, Dain Sundstrom wrote: I pulled down the code an it looks like a lot of IIOP stuff is there, what is missing for a full ORB? I'm not sure how I can help with this

Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-25 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
That's what I asked Kresten to forward to the list :) geir On Oct 25, 2005, at 11:19 AM, Dain Sundstrom wrote: For those of you that missed it Kresten wrote in the JIRA entry: As has been discussed previously, Trifork wants to d

Re: Trifork CORBA

2005-10-25 Thread Dain Sundstrom
I pulled down the code an it looks like a lot of IIOP stuff is there, what is missing for a full ORB? I'm not sure how I can help with this without the full orb code. If we had that, I could try integrating it into OpenEJB, but I am completely lost. I had this same problem with the last I

Re: TriFork CORBA donation

2005-10-15 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
How are things going? Do you think that it's possible to get the code in our repo and you work from there? Regards, Alan Kresten Krab Thorup wrote, On 9/16/2005 9:04 AM: Hi there, ... It has been up to a slow start, but I have finally gotten something rolling now. As I have mentioned e

Re: TriFork CORBA donation

2005-09-17 Thread Jacek Laskowski
Kresten Krab Thorup wrote: Hi there, ... Hi Kresten, I'm not prepared to comment on the details, but have a general question. - nio/select is used to avoid having an active thread listening for incoming messages It sounds like Java 5. Will it require this Java version? Geronimo is 1.4-ba

Re: TriFork CORBA donation

2005-09-16 Thread Kresten Krab Thorup
Hi there, ... It has been up to a slow start, but I have finally gotten something rolling now. As I have mentioned earlier, I wanted to redo the I/O subsystem, and this is going quite well. The first milestone I am targeting is to be able to do client side stream-based invocations; i.e.

Re: TriFork/CORBA meeting minutes

2005-07-09 Thread Alan D. Cabrera
I know that a few people are interested in solving this using ActiveIO.  Hiram? Regards, Alan Matt Hogstrom wrote, On 7/8/2005 5:49 PM: Is someone actively working on the generic interfaces for wrapping the SSL code? IBM is also interested in supporting this effort as it would make the

Re: TriFork/CORBA meeting minutes

2005-07-08 Thread Matt Hogstrom
Is someone actively working on the generic interfaces for wrapping the SSL code? IBM is also interested in supporting this effort as it would make the IBM JDK a valid option as well as jRockit I'd suspect. We'd like to make sure we don't go off in the weeds to solve the same problem. Thoughts?

Re: TriFork/CORBA meeting minutes

2005-07-08 Thread Jacek Laskowski
Alan D. Cabrera wrote: A kickoff phone call meeting occured between TriFork and a few PMC members. July 8th 2005, 4:00pm GMT Thanks Alan for the minutes. I wish I had been longer, but had to leave. It was my pleasure to hear you all. What a fun to hear you after so much time working together