Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-21 Thread Jerry He
Good work was done you've just raised. Thanks, Ram. We'll get there. Jerry On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 8:53 PM, ramkrishna vasudevan < ramkrishna.s.vasude...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi All > > Thanks for all the discussion. Joining in late to the discussion. > Apart from the above the other update is

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-20 Thread ramkrishna vasudevan
t; >>> with known limitations for a single metadata region. > It's a > > > > > > > > >>> difference as what was asked for by Jerry. > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > >>> Ted Malaska

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-20 Thread Anoop John
erry. > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>> Ted Malaska wrote: > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > >>>> I've been doing HBase for a long time and never had an > issue > > > > with >

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Jerry He
egion > > > > > > >>>> count limits and I have clusters with 10s of billions of > > > records. > > > > > Many > > > > > > >>>> there would be issues around a couple Trillion records, but > > > never > > > > > got

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Ted Malaska
M, Josh Elser< > > josh.el...@gmail.com> > > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > > >>>> > > > > > >>>> Oh, one other thing that I should mention (was prompted > > off-list). > > > > > >&g

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Jerry He
m> > > > > >>>> wrote: > > > > >>>> > > > > >>>> Oh, one other thing that I should mention (was prompted > off-list). > > > > >>>>> > > > > >>>>> (definition time since cros

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Ted Malaska
>> off-list). >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> (definition time since cross-list now: HBase regions == Accumulo >> > > >>>>> tablets) >> > > >>>>> >> > > >>>>> Accumulo

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Ted Malaska
gt; Accumulo will handle many more regions than HBase does now due > to a > > > >>>>> splittable metadata table. While I was told this was a very long > > and > > > >>>>> arduous journey to implement correctly (WRT splitting, merges and > > bu

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Josh Elser
Hi, folks We have people that are evaluating HBase vs Accumulo. Security is an important factor. But I think after the Cell security was added in HBase, there is no more real gap compared to Accumulo. I know we have both HBase and Accumulo experts on this list. Could someone shred more light? I am looki

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Andrew Purtell
I was told this was a very long > and > > >>>>> arduous journey to implement correctly (WRT splitting, merges and > bulk > > >>>>> loading), users with "too many regions" problems are extremely few > and > > >>>>> far &

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Jeremy Kepner
t;> I was very happy to see effort/design being put into this in HBase. > >>>>> And, > >>>>> just to be fair in criticism/praises, HBase does appear to me to do > >>>>> assignments of regions much faster than Accumulo does on a small > >

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Jeremy Kepner
ssignments of regions much faster than Accumulo does on a small cluster > >>>>(~5-10 nodes). Accumulo may take a few seconds to notice and reassign > >>>>tablets. I have yet to notice this with HBase (which also could be due to > >>>>lack of personal testing). &

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Ted Malaska
to > >> lack of personal testing). > >> > >> > >> Jerry He wrote: > >> > >>> Hi, folks > >>> > >>> We have people that are evaluating HBase vs Accumulo. > >>> Security is an important factor. > >>>

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Andrew Purtell
ign being put into this in HBase. >>>>> And, >>>>> just to be fair in criticism/praises, HBase does appear to me to do >>>>> assignments of regions much faster than Accumulo does on a small >>>>> cluster >>>>> (~5-10 nodes). A

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Josh Elser
l testing). Jerry He wrote: Hi, folks We have people that are evaluating HBase vs Accumulo. Security is an important factor. But I think after the Cell security was added in HBase, there is no more real gap compared to Accumulo. I know we have both HBase and Accumulo experts on this list. Cou

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Christopher
>> Jerry He wrote: >> >>> Hi, folks >>> >>> We have people that are evaluating HBase vs Accumulo. >>> Security is an important factor. >>> >>> But I think after the Cell security was added in HBase, there is no more >>> re

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Josh Elser
ut I think after the Cell security was added in HBase, there is no more real gap compared to Accumulo. I know we have both HBase and Accumulo experts on this list. Could someone shred more light? I am looking for real gap comparing HBase to Accumulo if there is any so that I can be prepared to ad

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread William Slacum
also could be due to >>> lack of personal testing). >>> >>> >>> Jerry He wrote: >>> >>> Hi, folks >>>> >>>> We have people that are evaluating HBase vs Accumulo. >>>> Security is an important factor. >>

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Sean Busbey
econds to notice and reassign > >>> tablets. I have yet to notice this with HBase (which also could be due > to > >>> lack of personal testing). > >>> > >>> > >>> Jerry He wrote: > >>> > >>>> Hi, folks > >

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Ted Malaska
>>> >>> >>> Jerry He wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, folks >>>> >>>> We have people that are evaluating HBase vs Accumulo. >>>> Security is an important factor. >>>> >>>> But I think after the Cell security was a

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Ted Malaska
t;> >>> Jerry He wrote: >>> >>> Hi, folks >>>> >>>> We have people that are evaluating HBase vs Accumulo. >>>> Security is an important factor. >>>> >>>> But I think after the Cell security was added in HBase, th

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Josh Elser
ice this with HBase (which also could be due to lack of personal testing). Jerry He wrote: Hi, folks We have people that are evaluating HBase vs Accumulo. Security is an important factor. But I think after the Cell security was added in HBase, there is no more real gap compared to Accumulo.

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Ted Malaska
> Jerry He wrote: >> >>> Hi, folks >>> >>> We have people that are evaluating HBase vs Accumulo. >>> Security is an important factor. >>> >>> But I think after the Cell security was added in HBase, there is no more >>> real

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Ted Malaska
lack of personal testing). > > > Jerry He wrote: > >> Hi, folks >> >> We have people that are evaluating HBase vs Accumulo. >> Security is an important factor. >> >> But I think after the Cell security was added in HBase, there is no more >> rea

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Josh Elser
e that are evaluating HBase vs Accumulo. Security is an important factor. But I think after the Cell security was added in HBase, there is no more real gap compared to Accumulo. I know we have both HBase and Accumulo experts on this list. Could someone shred more light? I am looking for real gap

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Josh Elser
Andrew Purtell wrote: Last I tried to play with the cell-level security APIs in HBase, it seemed very obtuse to me. Perhaps I was just dense and didn't find the right sort of instructions. I don't think anyone would debate that cell level security in HBase is a work-in-progress. We'd really wel

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Sean Busbey
+dev@accumulo (Though Josh and I are on this list, some other folks on dev@accumulo might have opinions) Hi Jerry! Do you have constraints on which version(s) of HBase and Accumulo you're comparing? Are you looking for currently shipping or for some expected future date? In very broad st

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Andrew Purtell
y, consider the use cases, evaluate the solutions and make your > decision off of empirical evidence. That's the only way to really make a > decision :) > > > Jerry He wrote: > >> Hi, folks >> >> We have people that are evaluating HBase vs Accumulo. &g

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Josh Elser
ly make a decision :) Jerry He wrote: Hi, folks We have people that are evaluating HBase vs Accumulo. Security is an important factor. But I think after the Cell security was added in HBase, there is no more real gap compared to Accumulo. I know we have both HBase and Accumulo experts on this

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Vladimir Rodionov
folks > > > > We have people that are evaluating HBase vs Accumulo. > > Security is an important factor. > > > > But I think after the Cell security was added in HBase, there is no more > > real gap compared to Accumulo. > > > > I know we have both HBase and Acc

Re: HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Ted Malaska
ave people that are evaluating HBase vs Accumulo. > Security is an important factor. > > But I think after the Cell security was added in HBase, there is no more > real gap compared to Accumulo. > > I know we have both HBase and Accumulo experts on this list. > Could someone shred

HBase and Accumulo

2015-08-19 Thread Jerry He
Hi, folks We have people that are evaluating HBase vs Accumulo. Security is an important factor. But I think after the Cell security was added in HBase, there is no more real gap compared to Accumulo. I know we have both HBase and Accumulo experts on this list. Could someone shred more light? I