Re: Backward incompatible changes

2017-04-18 Thread Ying Chen
>> >> > from branch-2. If a contributor wants to see their fix > > reach > > > to > > > > >> users > > > > >> >>on > > > > >> >> a > > > > >> >> > stable line quickly they w

Re: Backward incompatible changes

2017-03-24 Thread Lefty Leverenz
gt; stable line quickly they would have to have a fix on > > branch-2. > > > >> Also, a > > > >> >> > release manager can pick whatever fixes she wants, so even > if > > > >> >>contributor > > > >> >&

Re: Backward incompatible changes

2017-03-24 Thread Ashutosh Chauhan
>>contributor > > >> >> > doesn't commit it on branch-2, a release manger who wants to > > do a > > >> >>release > > >> >> > containing a set of fixes thats always possible. > > >

Re: Backward incompatible changes

2017-03-24 Thread Owen O'Malley
> of > >> >> >> 2.x > >> >> >> > to be backward compatible. At the same time whenever they > >> decide to > >> >> >> upgrade > >> >> >> > they only need to test their application once against 3.x a

Re: Backward incompatible changes

2017-03-23 Thread Ashutosh Chauhan
>> > focussed bug fix backport should be possible. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >- *Removal of MR2 on the master branch*. >> >> > This is something I personally would like to see. But exact >> timing of >

Re: Backward incompatible changes

2017-03-23 Thread Ashutosh Chauhan
nally would like to see. But exact > timing of > >>it > >> > will be decided by community. I am certainly not saying that as > soon > >>as > >> > branch-2 is created, lets remove MR2 on master. > >> > > >> >

Re: Backward incompatible changes

2017-03-23 Thread Eugene Koifman
rtainly not saying that as soon >>as >> > branch-2 is created, lets remove MR2 on master. >> > >> > I would also say that in the end ASF is volunteer organization, we >>cant >> > force people to adopt one branch or another. Its

Re: Backward incompatible changes

2017-03-22 Thread Sergey Shelukhin
gt;as >> > branch-2 is created, lets remove MR2 on master. >> > >> > I would also say that in the end ASF is volunteer organization, we >>cant >> > force people to adopt one branch or another. Its upto the contributors >> what >> > jiras they

Re: Backward incompatible changes

2017-03-22 Thread Pengcheng Xiong
on as > > branch-2 is created, lets remove MR2 on master. > > > > I would also say that in the end ASF is volunteer organization, we cant > > force people to adopt one branch or another. Its upto the contributors > what > > jiras they work on and when and wher

Re: Backward incompatible changes

2017-03-22 Thread Ashutosh Chauhan
so say that in the end ASF is volunteer organization, we cant > force people to adopt one branch or another. Its upto the contributors what > jiras they work on and when and where they commit it. > By not creating a branch-2 only thing we can guarantee is that rate of > development on m

Re: Backward incompatible changes

2017-03-10 Thread Ashutosh Chauhan
jiras they work on and when and where they commit it. By not creating a branch-2 only thing we can guarantee is that rate of development on master to remain slow because we don't want to start doing backward incompatible changes without explicitly acknowledging that. Thanks, Ashutosh On Thu,

Re: Backward incompatible changes

2017-03-09 Thread Sergio Pena
gt; > > > >> > Hive project has come a long way. With wide-spread adoption also > comes > > >> > expectations. Expectation of being backward compatible and not > > breaking > > >> > things. However that doesn't come free of cost and resu

Re: Backward incompatible changes

2017-03-06 Thread Ashutosh Chauhan
ree of cost and results in lot of > >> legacy > >> > code which can't be refactored without fear of breaking things. As a > >> result > >> > project has accumulated lot of debt over time. At the same time there > >> are > >> > a

Re: Backward incompatible changes

2017-03-06 Thread Ashutosh Chauhan
We may want to drop > >some of those. > > > >In order to move forward and shed that debt we may need a major version > >release which allows us to make backward incompatible changes and drop > >rarely used features. At the same time there are lots of users which are &g

Re: Backward incompatible changes

2017-03-06 Thread Ashutosh Chauhan
x27;t be refactored without fear of breaking things. As a > result > project has accumulated lot of debt over time. At the same time there > are > also lot of features which have seen little uptake. We may want to drop > some of those. > > In order to move forwa

Re: Backward incompatible changes

2017-03-06 Thread Ashutosh Chauhan
7;t be refactored without fear of breaking things. As a > > >result > > >project has accumulated lot of debt over time. At the same time there > are > > >also lot of features which have seen little uptake. We may want to drop > > >some of those. > > >

Re: Backward incompatible changes

2017-03-04 Thread Edward Capriolo
t; > code which can't be refactored without fear of breaking things. As a >> result >> > project has accumulated lot of debt over time. At the same time there >> are >> > also lot of features which have seen little uptake. We may want to drop >> > some

Re: Backward incompatible changes

2017-03-04 Thread Edward Capriolo
to drop > > some of those. > > > > In order to move forward and shed that debt we may need a major version > > release which allows us to make backward incompatible changes and drop > > rarely used features. At the same time there are lots of users which are > &

Re: Backward incompatible changes

2017-03-03 Thread Prasanth Jayachandran
f breaking things. As a result project has accumulated lot of debt over time. At the same time there are also lot of features which have seen little uptake. We may want to drop some of those. In order to move forward and shed that debt we may need a major version release which allows us to make

Re: Backward incompatible changes

2017-03-03 Thread Thejas Nair
At the same time there are > also lot of features which have seen little uptake. We may want to drop > some of those. > > In order to move forward and shed that debt we may need a major version > release which allows us to make backward incompatible changes and drop > rarely used f

Re: Backward incompatible changes

2017-03-03 Thread Edward Capriolo
t of features which have seen little uptake. We may want to drop > >some of those. > > > >In order to move forward and shed that debt we may need a major version > >release which allows us to make backward incompatible changes and drop > >rarely used features. At the

Re: Backward incompatible changes

2017-03-03 Thread Sergey Shelukhin
eatures which have seen little uptake. We may want to drop >some of those. > >In order to move forward and shed that debt we may need a major version >release which allows us to make backward incompatible changes and drop >rarely used features. At the same time there are lots of use

Backward incompatible changes

2017-03-03 Thread Ashutosh Chauhan
ings. As a result project has accumulated lot of debt over time. At the same time there are also lot of features which have seen little uptake. We may want to drop some of those. In order to move forward and shed that debt we may need a major version release which allows us to make backward in