Re: svn commit: r1677721 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/docs/conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf.in

2015-05-05 Thread Yann Ylavic
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 3:19 AM, wrote: > Author: wrowe > Date: Tue May 5 01:19:20 2015 > New Revision: 1677721 > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1677721 [] > Modified: httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/docs/conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf.in > URL: > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/doc

Re: Looking ahead to 2.4.13 / 2.2.30

2015-05-05 Thread Yann Ylavic
On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:52 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > > Concerns / observations / thoughts? I'd like to propose those 2.4.x CHANGES (r1542327+r1569005+r1542327) for backport to 2.2.x (in reverse order): *) mod_ssl: Fix tmp DH parameter leak, adjust selection to prefer larger keys a

Re: Looking ahead to 2.4.13 / 2.2.30

2015-05-05 Thread Eric Covener
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Yann Ylavic wrote: > But is there real 2.2.x user with OpenSSL < 0.9.8a? I'm no expert (we use a proprietary toolkit and SSL module where I spend most of my time), but that seems like quite an extreme thing to preserve in 2.2.x. Maybe worth a separate thread thoug

Possible mod_ssl's backports to 2.2.x? (was: Looking ahead to 2.4.13 / 2.2.30)

2015-05-05 Thread Yann Ylavic
I'd like to propose those 2.4.x CHANGES (r1542327+r1569005+r1542327) for backport to 2.2.x (in reverse order): *) mod_ssl: Fix tmp DH parameter leak, adjust selection to prefer larger keys and support up to 8192-bit keys. [Ruediger Pluem, Joe Orton] *) mod_ssl: Improve handling of

Re: Looking ahead to 2.4.13 / 2.2.30

2015-05-05 Thread Yann Ylavic
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Eric Covener wrote: > On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Yann Ylavic wrote: >> But is there real 2.2.x user with OpenSSL < 0.9.8a? > > I'm no expert (we use a proprietary toolkit and SSL module where I > spend most of my time), but that seems like quite an extreme thi

Re: svn commit: r1677721 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/docs/conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf.in

2015-05-05 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 2:47 AM, Yann Ylavic wrote: > On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 3:19 AM, wrote: >> Author: wrowe >> Date: Tue May 5 01:19:20 2015 >> New Revision: 1677721 >> >> URL: http://svn.apache.org/r1677721 > [] >> Modified: httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/docs/conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf.in >> URL:

Re: Looking ahead to 2.4.13 / 2.2.30

2015-05-05 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 8:08 AM, Eric Covener wrote: > On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:03 AM, Yann Ylavic wrote: > > But is there real 2.2.x user with OpenSSL < 0.9.8a? > > I'm no expert (we use a proprietary toolkit and SSL module where I > spend most of my time), but that seems like quite an extreme t

Re: svn commit: r1677721 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/docs/conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf.in

2015-05-05 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 11:26 AM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > > openssl ciphers -v 'ALL:!HIGH:!MEDIUM' | grep exp > After further scrutiny... openssl ciphers -v 'ALL:!HIGH:!MEDIUM:!LOW' | grep exp export falls under 'none of the above'.

Re: svn commit: r1677721 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/docs/conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf.in

2015-05-05 Thread Yann Ylavic
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 6:26 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 2:47 AM, Yann Ylavic wrote: >> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 3:19 AM, wrote: > >>> +SSLCipherSuite HIGH:MEDIUM:!aNULL:!MD5 > >>> +#SSLCipherSuite RC4-SHA:AES128-SHA:HIGH:MEDIUM:!aNULL:!MD5 > >> There possibly should be "

Re: Possible mod_ssl's backports to 2.2.x? (was: Looking ahead to 2.4.13 / 2.2.30)

2015-05-05 Thread Yann Ylavic
Possible backport patch attached. On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 3:14 PM, Yann Ylavic wrote: > I'd like to propose those 2.4.x CHANGES (r1542327+r1569005+r1542327) > for backport to 2.2.x (in reverse order): > > *) mod_ssl: Fix tmp DH parameter leak, adjust selection to prefer > larger keys and su

Re: svn commit: r1677721 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/docs/conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf.in

2015-05-05 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Yann Ylavic wrote: > On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 6:26 PM, William A Rowe Jr > wrote: > > On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 2:47 AM, Yann Ylavic > wrote: > >> On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 3:19 AM, wrote: > >> > >> Also I'd suggest removing RC4 from the latter suite, it is not > >> c

Re: svn commit: r1677721 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/docs/conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf.in

2015-05-05 Thread Eric Covener
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 1:28 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > Was hoping for md4 vs. aes128 comparisons, (and AES-NI isn't everywhere, > but will be, soon enough). > > While I agree md4 is less desirable, if we were going to make a > recommendation, > I'd go with favoring aes128 over md4 but retain m

Re: svn commit: r1677721 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/docs/conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf.in

2015-05-05 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Eric Covener wrote: > On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 1:28 PM, William A Rowe Jr > wrote: > > Was hoping for md4 vs. aes128 comparisons, (and AES-NI isn't everywhere, > > but will be, soon enough). > > > > While I agree md4 is less desirable, if we were going to make a >

Re: svn commit: r1677721 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.2.x/docs/conf/extra/httpd-ssl.conf.in

2015-05-05 Thread Yann Ylavic
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 7:28 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > > Was hoping for md4 vs. aes128 comparisons, (and AES-NI isn't everywhere, > but will be, soon enough). On my box with AES-NI disabled: $ openssl speed aes-128-cbc Doing aes-128 cbc for 3s on 16 size blocks: 14536333 aes-128 cbc's in 3.00

Re: Possible mod_ssl's backports to 2.2.x? (was: Looking ahead to 2.4.13 / 2.2.30)

2015-05-05 Thread Yann Ylavic
Please note that the primes constants in modules/ssl/ssl_engine_dh.c are from openssl/crypto/bn/bn_const.c. FWIW, attached is a (stripped) diff between the two files that shows constants are the same... On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Yann Ylavic wrote: > Possible backport patch attached. > > On

Re: Possible mod_ssl's backports to 2.2.x? (was: Looking ahead to 2.4.13 / 2.2.30)

2015-05-05 Thread Hanno Böck
I haven't used apache 2.2, but isn't OCSP stapling support still missing there? I think if you're already working on backporting important TLS features that should certainly go with them. -- Hanno Böck http://hboeck.de/ mail/jabber: ha...@hboeck.de GPG: BBB51E42 pgpNXAgtjh1Er.pgp Description:

Re: Possible mod_ssl's backports to 2.2.x? (was: Looking ahead to 2.4.13 / 2.2.30)

2015-05-05 Thread Eric Covener
On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 3:06 PM, Hanno Böck wrote: > I haven't used apache 2.2, but isn't OCSP stapling support still > missing there? > > I think if you're already working on backporting important TLS features > that should certainly go with them. My own line for 2.2 would be drawn somewhere bet

Re: Looking ahead to 2.4.13 / 2.2.30

2015-05-05 Thread olli hauer
On 2015-05-05 15:03, Yann Ylavic wrote: > On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:52 PM, William A Rowe Jr > wrote: >> >> Concerns / observations / thoughts? > > I'd like to propose those 2.4.x CHANGES (r1542327+r1569005+r1542327) > for backport to 2.2.x (in reverse order): > > *) mod_ssl: Fix tmp DH para

Re: Looking ahead to 2.4.13 / 2.2.30

2015-05-05 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On May 5, 2015 4:31 PM, "olli hauer" wrote: > > Perhaps it is also a good time do kick SSLv2 support from 2.2.x ;) We are deliberately not that disruptive to users. Our goal is to push more secure code at users, but not at the risk of their electing to not update, due to such blunt force. A sub