On the subject of r->uri [was: Post 2.4.25]

2016-12-28 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Yann Ylavic wrote: > [Bill, you definitely should do something with your email client, e.g. > using plain text only, replying to your messages breaks indentation > level (like the number of '>' preceding/according to the initial > message)]. > (Again, it's gmail,

HTTP/2 frame prioritization not honored

2016-12-28 Thread Kyriakos Zarifis
I am experimenting with contention between lower/higher priority HTTP/2 streams, and I think I am noticing that high-priority frames are not given high priority (quickly enough) The process is: Download dummy page A, which, after onLoad, Prefetches 8 objects (5MB each) at low priority. While the

Re: Post 2.4.25

2016-12-28 Thread Yann Ylavic
[Bill, you definitely should do something with your email client, e.g. using plain text only, replying to your messages breaks indentation level (like the number of '>' preceding/according to the initial message)]. On Thu, Dec 29, 2016 at 12:28 AM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > > On Dec 24, 2016 07:

Re: The Version Bump fallacy [Was Re: Post 2.4.25]

2016-12-28 Thread Yehuda Katz
On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 12:35 AM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > Our adoption is *broadly* based on the OS distributions > from vendors, not from people picking up our sources. > Yes - some integrate directly from source, and others > use a non-OS distribution. > I think a significant number of user

Re: Post 2.4.25

2016-12-28 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Dec 24, 2016 08:32, "Eric Covener" wrote: > I'm not saying we don't do one so we can do the other; I'm > saying we do both, at the same time, in parallel. I still > don't understand why that concept is such an anathema to some > people. I also worry about our ability to deliver a 3.0 with eno

Re: Post 2.4.25

2016-12-28 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Dec 24, 2016 07:57, "Jim Jagielski" wrote: > On Dec 24, 2016, at 8:29 AM, Rich Bowen wrote: > > On 12/23/2016 03:52 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: >> Personally, I don't think that backporting stuff to >> 2.4 prevents or disallows development on 2.6/3.0. In >> fact, I think it helps. We can easily

Re: The Version Bump fallacy [Was Re: Post 2.4.25]

2016-12-28 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Dec 28, 2016 10:34, "William A Rowe Jr" wrote: Specific Revision Of all Most Recent Of m.m Of all Apache/1.3.x 391898 3.33% 1.3.42 42392 10.82% 0.36% Apache/2.0.x 551117 4.68% 2.0.64 36944 6.70% 0.31% Apache/2.2.x 7129391 60.49% 2.2.31 1332448 18.78% 11.31% Apache/2.4.x 3713364 31.51% 2.4.17+

Re: The Version Bump fallacy [Was Re: Post 2.4.25]

2016-12-28 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Hi Jim, Talk to Google and the OpenOffice Team, that was a paste from OpenOffice Calc. I'll be happy to start summarizing as a shared Google sheet. Cheers, Bill On Dec 28, 2016 14:22, "Jim Jagielski" wrote: > Bill, I don't know if it's just my Email client or not (doesn't > look like it) bu

Re: The Version Bump fallacy [Was Re: Post 2.4.25]

2016-12-28 Thread Jim Jagielski
Bill, I don't know if it's just my Email client or not (doesn't look like it) but could you fix your Email client? It's impossible to reply and have the quoted parts parsed out correctly. I think it's to do w/ your messages being RTF or something. Thx! Included is an example of how a Reply misses

Re: The Version Bump fallacy [Was Re: Post 2.4.25]

2016-12-28 Thread Jan Ehrhardt
William A Rowe Jr in gmane.comp.apache.devel (Wed, 28 Dec 2016 10:46:51 -0600): >On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 9:05 AM, Jan Ehrhardt wrote: > >> Do not underestimate the influence of control panels. On all my Centos >> servers I am running Directadmin. DA always offers to upgrade to the >> latest releas

Re: The Version Bump fallacy [Was Re: Post 2.4.25]

2016-12-28 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 9:13 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > cPanel too... They are moving to EA4 which is Apache 2.4. > If not moved yet, that example wouldn't be helpful, it reinforces my point four years later. But EA itself seems to track pretty closely to the most contemperanious versions, looks

Re: svn commit: r1776076 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk: docs/manual/mod/mod_proxy_protocol.xml modules/filters/mod_proxy_protocol.c

2016-12-28 Thread Jim Jagielski
I would simply add a note to the header of mod_remoteip > On Dec 28, 2016, at 12:23 PM, Daniel Ruggeri wrote: > > > On 12/28/2016 7:49 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: >> Sounds good... We could simply move the filter aspects over to >> mod_remoteip and save us a module :) > > This may be a naive ques

Re: svn commit: r1776076 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk: docs/manual/mod/mod_proxy_protocol.xml modules/filters/mod_proxy_protocol.c

2016-12-28 Thread Daniel Ruggeri
On 12/28/2016 7:49 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > Sounds good... We could simply move the filter aspects over to > mod_remoteip and save us a module :) This may be a naive question, but how would the copyright for such mixed copyright sources be handled in the file for such a case? -- Daniel Rugger

Re: The Version Bump fallacy [Was Re: Post 2.4.25]

2016-12-28 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 9:05 AM, Jan Ehrhardt wrote: > William A Rowe Jr in gmane.comp.apache.devel (Tue, 27 Dec 2016 23:35:50 > -0600): > >But the vast majority of httpd, nginx, and yes - even IIS > >users are all running what they were handed from their > >OS distribution. > > Do not underestim

Re: The Version Bump fallacy [Was Re: Post 2.4.25]

2016-12-28 Thread Jim Jagielski
cPanel too... They are moving to EA4 which is Apache 2.4. So the idea that supplemental (ie: 2.4.x->2.4.y) patches don't have the reach or range of larger ones (2.4.x->2.6/3.0) isn't quite accurate. IMO, people who are comfortable with "whatever the OS provides" aren't the ones we are talking abo

Re: [users@httpd] Web sockets & proxypass - No protocol handler was valid for the URL

2016-12-28 Thread Yann Ylavic
On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 3:56 PM, Eric Covener wrote: > On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Yann Ylavic wrote: >>> I guess we just got unlucky when this overlap was "fixed" before since >>> the order is not deterministic. I don't think we'll break anyone by >>> making wstunnell try first. >> >> I'm n

Re: The Version Bump fallacy [Was Re: Post 2.4.25]

2016-12-28 Thread Jan Ehrhardt
William A Rowe Jr in gmane.comp.apache.devel (Tue, 27 Dec 2016 23:35:50 -0600): >But the vast majority of httpd, nginx, and yes - even IIS >users are all running what they were handed from their >OS distribution. Do not underestimate the influence of control panels. On all my Centos servers I am r

Re: [users@httpd] Web sockets & proxypass - No protocol handler was valid for the URL

2016-12-28 Thread Jim Jagielski
+1 > On Dec 28, 2016, at 9:56 AM, Eric Covener wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Yann Ylavic wrote: >>> I guess we just got unlucky when this overlap was "fixed" before since >>> the order is not deterministic. I don't think we'll break anyone by >>> making wstunnell try first. >> >>

Re: [users@httpd] Web sockets & proxypass - No protocol handler was valid for the URL

2016-12-28 Thread Eric Covener
On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 9:54 AM, Yann Ylavic wrote: >> I guess we just got unlucky when this overlap was "fixed" before since >> the order is not deterministic. I don't think we'll break anyone by >> making wstunnell try first. > > I'm not sure the different schemes ("https" vs "wss") would allow

Re: [users@httpd] Web sockets & proxypass - No protocol handler was valid for the URL

2016-12-28 Thread Yann Ylavic
On Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Eric Covener wrote: > I guess we just got unlucky when this overlap was "fixed" before since > the order is not deterministic. I don't think we'll break anyone by > making wstunnell try first. I'm not sure the different schemes ("https" vs "wss") would allow both

Fwd: [users@httpd] Web sockets & proxypass - No protocol handler was valid for the URL

2016-12-28 Thread Eric Covener
I guess we just got unlucky when this overlap was "fixed" before since the order is not deterministic. I don't think we'll break anyone by making wstunnell try first. -- Forwarded message -- From: Eric Covener Date: Wed, Dec 28, 2016 at 9:36 AM Subject: Re: [users@httpd] Web socket

Re: svn commit: r1776076 - in /httpd/httpd/trunk: docs/manual/mod/mod_proxy_protocol.xml modules/filters/mod_proxy_protocol.c

2016-12-28 Thread Jim Jagielski
> On Dec 26, 2016, at 10:30 PM, Daniel Ruggeri wrote: > > > On 12/26/2016 3:42 PM, j...@apache.org wrote: >> Author: jim >> Date: Mon Dec 26 21:42:26 2016 >> New Revision: 1776076 >> >> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1776076&view=rev >> Log: >> revert back... no conflict w/ name >> >>