RE: Logs and logs and logs [oh my!]

2001-12-31 Thread Joshua Slive
> From: Daniel Lopez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > The full functionality is preserved for power users and it is simpler to > document and use for normal users. It is alittle bit more verbose, but > that's all. Right. I think that is the mistake people are making here. Verbosity does not equa

Re: Logs and logs and logs [oh my!]

2001-12-31 Thread Daniel Lopez
> > I'm not convinced it is any simpler to have one directive with a > > whole bunch of options as opposed to a simple version of a directive, > > which does what most people want, and then another one that lets them > > do the complex stuff. The problem is not only having TransferLog vs CustomL

Re: Logs and logs and logs [oh my!]

2001-12-31 Thread Casey Allen Shobe
I, as a user (I do PHP development), prefer a smaller number of more extensible options. - Casey On Monday 31 December 2001 09:40 am, Bill Stoddard wrote: > > On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > > > Isn't it time to drop TransferLog and CookieLog? > > > > > > We can accomplish th

Re: Logs and logs and logs [oh my!]

2001-12-31 Thread Bill Stoddard
> On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > > > Isn't it time to drop TransferLog and CookieLog? > > > > We can accomplish the same by allowing that LogFormat provides the default > > for the CustomLog directive, in the absense of an optional [format] arg. > > > > And if we offer a bu

RE: Logs and logs and logs [oh my!]

2001-12-30 Thread Joshua Slive
> From: Marc Slemko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > I'm not convinced it is any simpler to have one directive with a > whole bunch of options as opposed to a simple version of a directive, > which does what most people want, and then another one that lets them > do the complex stuff. [Didn't I say

Re: Logs and logs and logs [oh my!]

2001-12-30 Thread Sander van Zoest
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > And if we offer a built-in (or default-config'ed) 'cookie' format, > of "%{Cookie}n \"%r\" %t", then it's a two bit change to turn a CookieLog > into a CustomLog file cookie command. I added the %{COOKIE_NAME}C to 2.0 for logging a simple cookie

Re: Logs and logs and logs [oh my!]

2001-12-30 Thread Marc Slemko
On Sun, 30 Dec 2001, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: > Isn't it time to drop TransferLog and CookieLog? > > We can accomplish the same by allowing that LogFormat provides the default > for the CustomLog directive, in the absense of an optional [format] arg. > > And if we offer a built-in (or defaul

RE: Logs and logs and logs [oh my!]

2001-12-30 Thread Joshua Slive
> From: William A. Rowe, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > I agree it's simplest, but under my proposal, we lost no functionallity. > If we agree nobody uses the 'default' format TransferLog, then > I'm fine with > your suggestion. But I rather guess this is too radical, and some users > probabl

RE: Logs and logs and logs [oh my!]

2001-12-30 Thread Lars Eilebrecht
According to William A. Rowe, Jr.: > Isn't it time to drop TransferLog and CookieLog? +1 ciao... -- Lars Eilebrecht - Just give me the coffee... [EMAIL PROTECTED] - and no one will get hurt.

Re: Logs and logs and logs [oh my!]

2001-12-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
From: "Joshua Slive" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 11:53 AM > > From: William A. Rowe, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Isn't it time to drop TransferLog and CookieLog? > > +1 > > > We can accomplish the same by allowing that LogFormat provides the default > > for th

RE: Logs and logs and logs [oh my!]

2001-12-30 Thread Joshua Slive
> From: William A. Rowe, Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Isn't it time to drop TransferLog and CookieLog? +1 > We can accomplish the same by allowing that LogFormat provides the default > for the CustomLog directive, in the absense of an optional [format] arg. I haven't looked in detail, but

Logs and logs and logs [oh my!]

2001-12-30 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
I believe Daniel brought this up (or at least he pointed it out to me) that we go way overboard with logging directives; * Syntax: * *TransferLog fn Logs transfers to fn in standard log format, unless *a custom format is set with LogFormat *LogFormat form