Re: 2.4 (Was: Re: Configuration Issues to Address [was Re: Dynamic configuration for the hackathon?])

2008-04-04 Thread Chris Darroch
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: I've been working with the 2.4 authn/z stuff a bit lately and what I keep tripping over is that the default authorization merge rule uses OR logic. For example, if I enable mod_access_compat and put in a traditional: I wonder if anyone would offer a fastfeather t

Re: 2.4 (Was: Re: Configuration Issues to Address [was Re: Dynamic configuration for the hackathon?])

2008-04-04 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Chris Darroch wrote: I've been working with the 2.4 authn/z stuff a bit lately and what I keep tripping over is that the default authorization merge rule uses OR logic. For example, if I enable mod_access_compat and put in a traditional: I wonder if anyone would offer a fastfeather talk nex

Re: 2.4 (Was: Re: Configuration Issues to Address [was Re: Dynamic configuration for the hackathon?])

2008-04-03 Thread Jim Jagielski
On Apr 3, 2008, at 12:32 PM, Brad Nicholes wrote: It wouldn't surprise me, which is why we need to get a 2.3-beta out there for testing. That would be good as well... that way we can determine how solid the existing impl is, so when the new stuff is added we know the "old" stuff is still goo

Re: 2.4 (Was: Re: Configuration Issues to Address [was Re: Dynamic configuration for the hackathon?])

2008-04-03 Thread Chris Darroch
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: I'd -1 a 2.4.0 release today, because nobody has even bothered to make a candidate for 2.3-dev. Auth logic changes break most if not all third party auth modules (broke an auth feature in mod_ftp). Not talking about commercial modules but every third party auth

Re: 2.4 (Was: Re: Configuration Issues to Address [was Re: Dynamic configuration for the hackathon?])

2008-04-03 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Nick Kew wrote: But before that, we need a vision of where we're going, and how to get there without breaking what we've got. * server_conf goes away. Modules have zero or more "conf" sections, essentially today's misnamed dir_conf, which are initialized and merged as they are today.

Re: 2.4 (Was: Re: Configuration Issues to Address [was Re: Dynamic configuration for the hackathon?])

2008-04-03 Thread Brad Nicholes
>>> On 4/3/2008 at 8:23 AM, in message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Plüm, Rüdiger, VF-Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- >> Von: Jim Jagielski >> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. April 2008 16:07 >> An: dev@httpd.apache.org >> Betreff: 2.4 (Was: Re: Configuration Issues to

Re: 2.4 (Was: Re: Configuration Issues to Address [was Re: Dynamic configuration for the hackathon?])

2008-04-03 Thread Nick Kew
On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:13:31 -0500 "William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The hope. Those admins who refuse to let their junior admins use that > directive should have a level of control over their outward facing > heavily-loaded machines :) The logic is approximately cloned from ,

Re: 2.4 (Was: Re: Configuration Issues to Address [was Re: Dynamic configuration for the hackathon?])

2008-04-03 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Akins, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Very rough draft. But this is not necessarily slow... ;) Right. Even then, the user/admin may be willing to burn CPU cycles anyway to get a simpler config. Plus, if they were to use mod_rew

Re: 2.4 (Was: Re: Configuration Issues to Address [was Re: Dynamic configuration for the hackathon?])

2008-04-03 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Nick Kew wrote: is of course a crusty old relative. Limit is unrelated, it's fundamentally borked (directive must know it is participating in a limit-ed section, cannot overly multiple limit-ed sections because that directive has never created a conf section, and there is no exception thrown

Re: 2.4 (Was: Re: Configuration Issues to Address [was Re: Dynamic configuration for the hackathon?])

2008-04-03 Thread Jorge Schrauwen
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 4:31 PM, Mads Toftum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 10:06:50AM -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > Time for a 2.4 release? I wouldn't mind pushing that along > > and get some of the feature-set of 2.4 out before we do too > > much ripping with the inevita

Re: 2.4 (Was: Re: Configuration Issues to Address [was Re: Dynamic configuration for the hackathon?])

2008-04-03 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 8:53 AM, Akins, Brian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Very rough draft. But this is not necessarily slow... ;) Right. Even then, the user/admin may be willing to burn CPU cycles anyway to get a simpler config. Plus, if they were to use mod_rewrite, they've already blown

Re: 2.4 (Was: Re: Configuration Issues to Address [was Re: Dynamic configuration for the hackathon?])

2008-04-03 Thread Akins, Brian
On 4/3/08 11:38 AM, "William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> ... >> > > Slow Not if the parsing is done at config time and HTTP_Method is handle by a provider. Some pseudo code: At config time, the parser would do something like: parse_provider *prov; void

Re: 2.4 (Was: Re: Configuration Issues to Address [was Re: Dynamic configuration for the hackathon?])

2008-04-03 Thread Nick Kew
On Thu, 03 Apr 2008 11:25:56 -0400 "Akins, Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 4/3/08 10:47 AM, "William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > I'll commit the > > > ... > May work already (not tested) if Rewrite is active (so method is available as an env var). Certainly on th

Re: 2.4 (Was: Re: Configuration Issues to Address [was Re: Dynamic configuration for the hackathon?])

2008-04-03 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Akins, Brian wrote: On 4/3/08 10:47 AM, "William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'll commit the ... Slow

Re: 2.4 (Was: Re: Configuration Issues to Address [was Re: Dynamic configuration for the hackathon?])

2008-04-03 Thread Akins, Brian
On 4/3/08 10:47 AM, "William A. Rowe, Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'll commit the ... ;) -- Brian Akins Chief Operations Engineer Turner Digital Media Technologies

Re: 2.4 (Was: Re: Configuration Issues to Address [was Re: Dynamic configuration for the hackathon?])

2008-04-03 Thread William A. Rowe, Jr.
Plüm wrote: 2. My feeling regarding the usage of 2.2 is that since about 6 month we are getting track as commercial 3rd parties now supply modules for httpd 2.2. This means that will have to maintain one more stable branch for quite some time and to be honest currently we effectively

Re: 2.4 (Was: Re: Configuration Issues to Address [was Re: Dynamic configuration for the hackathon?])

2008-04-03 Thread Mads Toftum
On Thu, Apr 03, 2008 at 10:06:50AM -0400, Jim Jagielski wrote: > Time for a 2.4 release? I wouldn't mind pushing that along > and get some of the feature-set of 2.4 out before we do too > much ripping with the inevitable delays associated with that :) Is there really enough news in trunk to warran

Re: 2.4 (Was: Re: Configuration Issues to Address [was Re: Dynamic configuration for the hackathon?])

2008-04-03 Thread Plüm , Rüdiger , VF-Group
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: Jim Jagielski > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 3. April 2008 16:07 > An: dev@httpd.apache.org > Betreff: 2.4 (Was: Re: Configuration Issues to Address [was > Re: Dynamic configuration for the hackathon?]) > > Another good topic of discussion: > > Time for a