Re: ab.c versionining was Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/support ab.c

2002-05-01 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 11:41:57PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -1on anything which - shows in the output of AB of versions of AB which -can- be compared different version numbers Personally, I think that is your logical fallacy. I don't believe you can reliably compare

RE: ab.c versionining was Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/support ab.c

2002-05-01 Thread Sander Striker
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 30 April 2002 23:42 I'd like to see either the seperate version for ab patch reverted _or_ ab moved out of the tree. I feel very strongly about only having 'one'* version scheme to care about in the httpd tree. +0to move it

Re: ab.c versionining was Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/support ab.c

2002-05-01 Thread Brian Pane
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 11:41:57PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -1on anything which - shows in the output of AB of versions of AB which -can- be compared different version numbers Personally, I think that is your logical fallacy. I don't believe

RE: ab.c versionining was Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/support ab.c

2002-05-01 Thread Sander Striker
From: Brian Pane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 May 2002 09:50 Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Tue, Apr 30, 2002 at 11:41:57PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -1 on anything which - shows in the output of AB of versions of AB which -can- be compared different version

RE: ab.c versionining was Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/support ab.c

2002-05-01 Thread dirkx
On Wed, 1 May 2002, Sander Striker wrote: -1 on anything which - shows in the output of AB of versions of AB which -can- be compared different version numbers or - which shows in the output of AB identical version numbers even though the results cannot be

RE: ab.c versionining was Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/support ab.c

2002-05-01 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Wed, 1 May 2002, Sander Striker wrote: Although the version number may not help in being able to compare results, it does help to track down what the state of the sourcetree was when this ab was compiled. So, +1 on the disclaimer, -0 on removing all signs of a version number. Agreed.

RE: ab.c versionining was Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/support ab.c

2002-05-01 Thread dirkx
Personally I just don't see what the big deal is. People like having ab :-) :-) - I think that all that happened was that the #define in the 1.3 version unintentionally got translated during the 2.0 move to the BASE_SERVER version; not realizing it had intentioanlly its own version number

Re: ab.c versionining was Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/support ab.c

2002-05-01 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 05:54:49PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be that we need to put that APR version also in places like Error Log or on the -V command line ? As to help people file more meaning ful bug reports ? At this point, I don't think so because httpd-2.0 will only work

Re: ab.c versionining was Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/support ab.c

2002-05-01 Thread dirkx
specific versions of APR that must be in-tree. Remember that people can only legitimately file bug reports off released versions. People Ack - I had not thougd of that - that is perfectly true - so a release version of Apache implies a single APR version - even across platforms. Dw.

RE: ab.c versionining was Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/support ab.c

2002-05-01 Thread Ryan Bloom
From: Justin Erenkrantz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 05:54:49PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be that we need to put that APR version also in places like Error Log or on the -V command line ? As to help people file more meaning ful bug reports ? At

Re: ab.c versionining was Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/support ab.c

2002-05-01 Thread Sander Temme
specific versions of APR that must be in-tree. Remember that people can only legitimately file bug reports off released versions. People Not necessarily. As Ryan said, you want the bug reports *before* the release so that you can fix them. It'd be good for reproducability if reports be filed

Re: ab.c versionining was Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/support ab.c

2002-05-01 Thread Aaron Bannert
On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 08:58:57AM -0700, Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Wed, May 01, 2002 at 05:54:49PM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be that we need to put that APR version also in places like Error Log or on the -V command line ? As to help people file more meaning ful bug

RE: ab.c versionining was Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/support ab.c

2002-04-30 Thread Sander Striker
Hi, I'd like to see either the seperate version for ab patch reverted _or_ ab moved out of the tree. I feel very strongly about only having 'one'* version scheme to care about in the httpd tree. Sander *) one in the broadest sense of the word... ofcource we already have to be/are being

RE: ab.c versionining was Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/support ab.c

2002-04-30 Thread Cliff Woolley
On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Sander Striker wrote: I'd like to see either the seperate version for ab patch reverted _or_ ab moved out of the tree. I feel very strongly about only having 'one'* version scheme to care about in the httpd tree. +1 to keep it (ie, use httpd's version numbers) -0 to

RE: ab.c versionining was Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/support ab.c

2002-04-30 Thread dirkx
I'd like to see either the seperate version for ab patch reverted _or_ ab moved out of the tree. I feel very strongly about only having 'one'* version scheme to care about in the httpd tree. +0 to move it out of the tree. +0 to restore the 1.3 versioning situation. -1 on

Re: ab.c versionining was Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/support ab.c

2002-04-30 Thread Sander Temme
if the above implies moving out of the tree; then +1 for that. If the above can be accomplished by having the APR version # exposed or something simpler - great. Otherwise - move it out. If I may voice my two cents as former measurement taker migrated to tester: I think Apache benefits from

Re: ab.c versionining was Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/support ab.c

2002-04-26 Thread dirkx
Having it separated out like you have just changed it to is going to cause lots of problems for us maintaining it. While your As to wether this is realistic: From apache-1.3/src/support/ab.c: #define VERSION 1.3d which has been there for some XXX years and allowed us to compare ab

Re: ab.c versionining was Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/support ab.c

2002-04-26 Thread David Reid
I think maybe we should move ab out of the tree in this case... david Having it separated out like you have just changed it to is going to cause lots of problems for us maintaining it. While your As to wether this is realistic: From apache-1.3/src/support/ab.c: #define VERSION 1.3d

RE: ab.c versionining was Re: cvs commit: httpd-2.0/support ab.c

2002-04-25 Thread Sander Striker
From: Justin Erenkrantz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 April 2002 11:42 On Thu, Apr 25, 2002 at 08:31:14AM -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: dirkx 02/04/25 01:31:14 Modified:support ab.c Log: During the 1.3-2.0 migragrion; ab its #defined VERSION own string was