cache trouble (Re: [vote] 2.1.9 as beta)

2005-11-03 Thread Nick Kew
On Wednesday 02 November 2005 20:26, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: I think the text Deny from all is a particularly dangerous thing to have not work as advertised! No matter how well documented :/ Nasty. Is it necessarily a showstopper? The question though, is where

mod_mbox: unviewable message

2005-11-03 Thread Joe Orton
Hi, I just found a message which mod_mbox can't seem to render: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/apr-dev/200509.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] can that be fixed? The View raw message link is useful anyway ;) joe

mod_deflate Vary header

2005-11-03 Thread Florian Zumbiehl
Hi, While configuring and testing my new and shiny Apache 2, I noticed that mod_deflate sends a Vary: Content-Encoding header whenever a resource could potentially be compressed, no matter whether it actually is compressed in that particular response. That certainly should work, but in situations

Re: mod_deflate Vary header

2005-11-03 Thread André Malo
* Florian Zumbiehl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: While configuring and testing my new and shiny Apache 2, I noticed that mod_deflate sends a Vary: Content-Encoding header whenever a resource could potentially be compressed, no matter whether it actually is compressed in that particular response.

Re: SSL enabled - nokeepalive in MSIE for non-SSL connections

2005-11-03 Thread Olaf van der Spek
Joe Orton wrote: All versions need unclean shutdown at least, not sure about keepalive. If you have new data to provide on this front that's great and very welcome, please send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] bugzilla is not a discussion or support forum, however. I've been running without

Re: [vote] 2.1.9 as beta

2005-11-03 Thread Joe Orton
On Wed, Nov 02, 2005 at 03:08:47PM -0500, Joshua Slive wrote: Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: I think the text Deny from all is a particularly dangerous thing to have not work as advertised! No matter how well documented :/ Sure, but in truth, apache configuration is really complex and deny

Re: [vote] 2.1.9 as beta

2005-11-03 Thread Colm MacCarthaigh
On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 03:27:43PM +, Joe Orton wrote: Agreed, and I don't see why this is a showstopper either if this has been the behaviour of mod_cache forever anyway. showstopper === regression I've taken this out of the show-stopper section, I'll just live with documentation as a

mod_access vs mod_authz_host

2005-11-03 Thread Nick Kew
Is there really a rationale for that name change? This module is *not* an authz module in the sense of anything from the used-to-be-auth modules are. * It lives on a different request processing hook. * Its semantics, and even HTTP failure code, are different. * it uses TCP information

Re: mod_access vs mod_authz_host

2005-11-03 Thread Brad Nicholes
But it does handle access control which kind of puts in the category of authz vs. anywhere else. Brad On 11/3/2005 at 9:26:57 am, in message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there really a rationale for that name change? This module is *not* an authz module in the sense of

just how bad an idea is it to specify the path to suexec binary in httpd.conf?

2005-11-03 Thread Jeff Trawick
ErrorLog /etc/some-important-database LoadModule hidden_module /usr/local/viewcvs-0.9.3/pipeopen.py SuexecWrapper /www/abc.example.com/bin/suexec If random user can edit main conf file, things are pretty bad, at least when root starts Apache. Perhaps there are more current limitations on

Re: mod_mbox: unviewable message

2005-11-03 Thread Maxime Petazzoni
Hi, * Joe Orton [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-11-03 11:26:14]: Hi, I just found a message which mod_mbox can't seem to render: http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/apr-dev/200509.mbox/[EMAIL PROTECTED] can that be fixed? The View raw message link is useful anyway ;) This message is not a

Re: mod_mbox: unviewable message

2005-11-03 Thread Nick Kew
On Thursday 03 November 2005 16:41, Maxime Petazzoni wrote: This message is not a valid MIME message. The first part does not contains headers, so mod_mbox passes this part of the message. I don't know enough about MIME constructions to decide how should mod_mbox behave. Any ideas or

Re: mod_access vs mod_authz_host

2005-11-03 Thread Nick Kew
On Thursday 03 November 2005 16:37, Brad Nicholes wrote: But it does handle access control which kind of puts in the category of authz vs. anywhere else. So can mod_rewrite and others, but that doesn't make it mod_authz_url! Perhaps mod_load_average should be called mod_authz_busy ? In

Omission in the documentation

2005-11-03 Thread Bengt-Arne Fjellner
The documentation for APR::Request ought to mention that atleast jar and params returns undef if there is no cookie/param -- Bengt-Arne Fjellner

Re: mod_access vs mod_authz_host

2005-11-03 Thread Geoffrey Young
Nick Kew wrote: On Thursday 03 November 2005 16:37, Brad Nicholes wrote: But it does handle access control which kind of puts in the category of authz vs. anywhere else. So can mod_rewrite and others, but that doesn't make it mod_authz_url! Perhaps mod_load_average should be called

Re: mod_access vs mod_authz_host

2005-11-03 Thread Nick Kew
On Thursday 03 November 2005 16:50, Nick Kew wrote: On Thursday 03 November 2005 16:37, Brad Nicholes wrote: But it does handle access control which kind of puts in the category of authz vs. anywhere else. So can mod_rewrite and others, but that doesn't make it mod_authz_url! Perhaps

Re: mod_access vs mod_authz_host

2005-11-03 Thread Nick Kew
On Thursday 03 November 2005 16:52, Geoffrey Young wrote: what about mod_access_host? that would give us mod_access_*, mod_authn_*, and mod_authz_* modules corresponding to the different aaa hooks... Sounds good to me. -- Nick Kew

Re: mod_mbox: unviewable message

2005-11-03 Thread Paul Querna
Nick Kew wrote: On Thursday 03 November 2005 16:41, Maxime Petazzoni wrote: This message is not a valid MIME message. The first part does not contains headers, so mod_mbox passes this part of the message. I don't know enough about MIME constructions to decide how should mod_mbox behave.

Re: SSL enabled - nokeepalive in MSIE for non-SSL connections

2005-11-03 Thread Anish Mistry
On Thursday 03 November 2005 09:37 am, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Joe Orton wrote: All versions need unclean shutdown at least, not sure about keepalive. If you have new data to provide on this front that's great and very welcome, please send it to [EMAIL PROTECTED] bugzilla is not a

[jira] Commented: (MODPYTHON-77) The multiple interpreter concept of mod_python is broken for Python extension modules since Python 2.3

2005-11-03 Thread Boyan Boyadjiev (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MODPYTHON-77?page=comments#action_12356706 ] Boyan Boyadjiev commented on MODPYTHON-77: -- The smalest required change for a correct pythreadstate handling is the following (which is the same as in

Re: cache trouble (Re: [vote] 2.1.9 as beta)

2005-11-03 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 11/03/2005 11:01 AM, Nick Kew wrote: On Wednesday 02 November 2005 20:26, William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: [..cut..] Certainly not in Directory /foo - the cached entity no longer lives there. I disagree. If it came from there originally, then that's where it

Re: SSL enabled - nokeepalive in MSIE for non-SSL connections

2005-11-03 Thread Olaf van der Spek
On 11/3/05, Anish Mistry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 03 November 2005 09:37 am, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Joe Orton wrote: All versions need unclean shutdown at least, not sure about keepalive. If you have new data to provide on this front that's great and very welcome, please

Re: cache trouble (Re: [vote] 2.1.9 as beta)

2005-11-03 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
--On November 3, 2005 8:44:02 PM +0100 Ruediger Pluem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also agree with this. While I understand the performance benefits from the developer perspective, I fear the confusion from the user and administrators perspective. Having a clear configuration is not only about

Re: SSL enabled - nokeepalive in MSIE for non-SSL connections

2005-11-03 Thread Anish Mistry
On Thursday 03 November 2005 05:18 pm, Olaf van der Spek wrote: On 11/3/05, Anish Mistry [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 03 November 2005 09:37 am, Olaf van der Spek wrote: Joe Orton wrote: All versions need unclean shutdown at least, not sure about keepalive. If you have new

Problem with mod_proxy and ProxyPassReverse

2005-11-03 Thread Eric B.
Hi, I'm struggling to get Apache to work properly as a Proxy to an internal server. I have two copies of the same application running on this internal server (both ASP applications running on IIS) that I need to access via different URLs. I have managed to configure on and got it working

Re: cache trouble (Re: [vote] 2.1.9 as beta)

2005-11-03 Thread Paul Querna
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: --On November 3, 2005 8:44:02 PM +0100 Ruediger Pluem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also agree with this. While I understand the performance benefits from the developer perspective, I fear the confusion from the user and administrators perspective. Having a clear

Re: cache trouble (Re: [vote] 2.1.9 as beta)

2005-11-03 Thread Joshua Slive
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: In my performance analyses that I did when redoing mod_cache last year, a substantial part of the time in httpd was spent in all of the hooks prior to the handler. Things like BrowserMatch (which do regex's) are ridiculously expensive. Interesting to think,

authn, authz and access. oh my.

2005-11-03 Thread Brandon Fosdick
As if the old system wasn't hard enough to wrap one's head around. Just when I had it figured out enough to go and write mod_auth_userdir you guys go and change things on me. BTW, when did this change? I've been lurking on this list since July and have only recently heard about this. Was it a

Re: mod_deflate Vary header

2005-11-03 Thread Florian Zumbiehl
Hi, Yes, that is the point. The Vary header describes which header(s) was used to decide, which content actually would be delivered. That's what HTTP specifies. To be exact, I'd say that HTTP specifies that it's about representation and not about content - which might even be the point here:

Re: cache trouble (Re: [vote] 2.1.9 as beta)

2005-11-03 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Thu, Nov 03, 2005 at 08:03:56PM -0500, Joshua Slive wrote: it seems there is no way to work around client protocol problems. (Just sending Vary: User-Agent wouldn't fix the problem, because when the user agent matched a cached variant, the protocol adjustments still wouldn't be

PythonEnablePdb option.

2005-11-03 Thread Graham Dumpleton
The documentation for the Python debugger support in mod_python states: Because pdb is an interactive tool, start httpd from the command line with the -DONE_PROCESS option when using this directive. As soon as your handler code is entered, you will see a Pdb prompt allowing you to step

Re: PythonEnablePdb option.

2005-11-03 Thread Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy
On Thu, 3 Nov 2005, Graham Dumpleton wrote: With the thought of mod_python perhaps ignoring the PythonEnabledPdb option when not run in single process mode, is there a way using the apache.mpm_query() function or some other function of determining that Apache is running in single process mode?

Re: PythonEnablePdb option.

2005-11-03 Thread Graham Dumpleton
Graham Dumpleton wrote .. Grisha wrote .. On Thu, 3 Nov 2005, Graham Dumpleton wrote: With the thought of mod_python perhaps ignoring the PythonEnabledPdb option when not run in single process mode, is there a way using the apache.mpm_query() function or some other function of

[jira] Commented: (MODPYTHON-77) The multiple interpreter concept of mod_python is broken for Python extension modules since Python 2.3

2005-11-03 Thread Graham Dumpleton (JIRA)
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MODPYTHON-77?page=comments#action_12356739 ] Graham Dumpleton commented on MODPYTHON-77: --- There are now so many different suggestions on this that it is all too confusing. In respect of latest suggested