Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-17 Thread Yann Ylavic
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 4:05 PM Joe Orton wrote: > > For 2.4.x I would argue it's better to keep a preference for 8.x over > 10.x so that users aren't switched from one to the other across an > upgrade - with some new performance trade-off we know about - without > changing the

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-17 Thread Yann Ylavic
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 10:26 PM Christophe JAILLET wrote: > > Le 17/01/2022 à 13:27, Ruediger Pluem a écrit : > > > > With regards to the de-optimization / stack usage probably stupid question: > > Can't we use the TLS features that several compilers offer? > > e.g. see at the end of the page at

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-17 Thread Christophe JAILLET
Le 17/01/2022 à 13:27, Ruediger Pluem a écrit : On 1/16/22 10:35 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: 4 day ago, you all saw this. 6 years ago, you all started using this on trunk. Don't know what I can to do help this along and honor the library author's wishes for all of us to walk away from the

Re: TLS neverbleed design

2022-01-17 Thread Graham Leggett
On 17 Jan 2022, at 19:17, Ruediger Pluem wrote: >> I see. Thanks for the clarification. Did not really now about that >> interface. Then I see no pressing point in adding an additional API, indeed. > > I haven't looked deeply in this, but based on the pointers from Joe I guess > this can be

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-17 Thread Christophe JAILLET
Le 17/01/2022 à 14:16, Ruediger Pluem a écrit : On 1/17/22 1:38 PM, Eric Covener wrote: On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 7:28 AM Ruediger Pluem wrote: On 1/16/22 10:35 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: 4 day ago, you all saw this. 6 years ago, you all started using this on trunk. Don't know what I

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-17 Thread William A Rowe Jr
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 09:37 Ruediger Pluem wrote: > > > On 1/17/22 4:05 PM, Joe Orton wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 03:35:15PM -0600, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > >> 4 day ago, you all saw this. 6 years ago, you all started using this on > trunk. > >> > >> Don't know what I can to do help

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-17 Thread William A Rowe Jr
Ixney on the alloca. That's the entire point of not moving array allocations to the stack, because the author won't take responsibility for potential underflows and overflows. Stack is the wrong place for these bits On Mon, Jan 17, 2022, 06:38 Eric Covener wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at

Re: TLS neverbleed design

2022-01-17 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 1/17/22 5:32 PM, Stefan Eissing wrote: > > >> Am 17.01.2022 um 16:42 schrieb Joe Orton : >> >> On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 03:37:05PM +0100, Stefan Eissing wrote: >>> My current, rough idea would be: >>> >>> - fork a process, like mod_cgid does, that can be communicated >>> with over a unix

Re: TLS neverbleed design

2022-01-17 Thread Stefan Eissing
> Am 17.01.2022 um 16:42 schrieb Joe Orton : > > On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 03:37:05PM +0100, Stefan Eissing wrote: >> My current, rough idea would be: >> >> - fork a process, like mod_cgid does, that can be communicated >> with over a unix domain socket >> - have an ap_hook to load a key and

Re: TLS neverbleed design

2022-01-17 Thread Joe Orton
On Wed, Jan 12, 2022 at 03:37:05PM +0100, Stefan Eissing wrote: > My current, rough idea would be: > > - fork a process, like mod_cgid does, that can be communicated > with over a unix domain socket > - have an ap_hook to load a key and return an opaque key handle > - have an ap_hooks to

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-17 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 1/17/22 4:05 PM, Joe Orton wrote: > On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 03:35:15PM -0600, William A Rowe Jr wrote: >> 4 day ago, you all saw this. 6 years ago, you all started using this on >> trunk. >> >> Don't know what I can to do help this along and honor the library >> author's wishes for all of

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-17 Thread Joe Orton
On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 03:35:15PM -0600, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > 4 day ago, you all saw this. 6 years ago, you all started using this on trunk. > > Don't know what I can to do help this along and honor the library > author's wishes for all of us to walk away from the dead fork, and use >

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-17 Thread gs-apache-dev
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 02:16:32PM +0100, Ruediger Pluem wrote: > > > On 1/17/22 1:38 PM, Eric Covener wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 7:28 AM Ruediger Pluem wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> On 1/16/22 10:35 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > >>> 4 day ago, you all saw this. 6 years ago, you all

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-17 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 1/17/22 1:38 PM, Eric Covener wrote: > On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 7:28 AM Ruediger Pluem wrote: >> >> >> >> On 1/16/22 10:35 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: >>> 4 day ago, you all saw this. 6 years ago, you all started using this on >>> trunk. >>> >>> Don't know what I can to do help this along

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-17 Thread Eric Covener
On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 7:28 AM Ruediger Pluem wrote: > > > > On 1/16/22 10:35 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > > 4 day ago, you all saw this. 6 years ago, you all started using this on > > trunk. > > > > Don't know what I can to do help this along and honor the library > > author's wishes for > >

Re: svn commit: r1896976 - /httpd/httpd/branches/2.4.x/STATUS

2022-01-17 Thread Ruediger Pluem
On 1/16/22 10:35 PM, William A Rowe Jr wrote: > 4 day ago, you all saw this. 6 years ago, you all started using this on trunk. > > Don't know what I can to do help this along and honor the library > author's wishes for > all of us to walk away from the dead fork, and use the maintained > fork.