Re: mod_mbox helper scripts and programs

2006-01-10 Thread Paul A Houle
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 06:55:37PM +0100, Mads Toftum wrote: On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 09:51:36AM -0800, Paul Querna wrote: Python! Excellent choice - at least that way I won't have to even consider trying ;) Even Perl would be an improvement over

Re: [Fwd: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [announce] Apache HTTP Server 2.2.0 Released]

2005-12-02 Thread Paul A Houle
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: If the user must rewrite their content handlers to pay attention to thread jumps, and must use some sort of yeild beyond apr_socket_poll/select(), then I'd agree it becomes 3.0. I wouldn't worry about protocol/mpm authors, who are a breed to ourselves and should

Re: OT: performance FUD

2005-11-30 Thread Paul A Houle
Jess Holle wrote: So if one uses worker and few processes (i.e. lots of threads per), then Solaris should be fine? That's what people think, but I'd like to see some numbers. I've never put a worker Apache into production because most of our systems depend on PHP or something else

Re: OT: performance FUD

2005-11-30 Thread Paul A Houle
Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: Is there anything we can do in 2.4/3.0 that will help gain that trust? It's not Apache's fault. It's not even PHP's fault. It's a much bigger problem with the open source libraries that people link into PHP, Perl, Python and the like. The problem is

Re: OT: performance FUD

2005-11-30 Thread Paul A Houle
Nick Kew wrote: That looks a lot like Windows' market position. And I suspect it's no accident: both products have heaped on new 'goodies', all too often at the expense of other considerations. It's IMO also no accident that PHP is moving towards a Windows-like security track record.

Re: OT: performance FUD

2005-11-29 Thread Paul A Houle
Brian Akins wrote: This is probably way off topic for this list. I was searching for something related to php this morning (I know, I know... But some people here need php) and the majority of the google hits where FUD sites. Most of them generally say Apache is bloated and slow, you should

Re: OT: performance FUD

2005-11-29 Thread Paul A Houle
Joshua Slive wrote: Suggestions to improve http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.1/misc/perf-tuning.html are very welcome. Suggestions backed by data are even better. Basically there's nothing quantitative there. There's a lot of talk about some operating systems and not a lot of talk about

Re: OT: performance FUD

2005-11-29 Thread Paul A Houle
Justin Erenkrantz wrote: If it's on equivalent hardware (i.e. Linux/Intel vs. Solaris/Intel on the same box), I doubt there will be an extreme performance gap. In fact, I've often seen Solaris outperform Linux on certain types of loads. In my experience, a lot of Linux network card

Re: pgp trust for https?

2005-11-09 Thread Paul A Houle
Peter J. Cranstone wrote: Currently Windows, Linux and Unix only use two levels of privilege - Ring 3 and Ring 0. Everybody and there uncle's code want to run at Ring 0. Another really bad idea, as once I introduce a network/video/keyboard/whatever driver at that level I can execute malicious

httpd has no reason to improve...

2005-08-22 Thread Paul A Houle
Ben Collins-Sussman wrote: I see a lot of frustration going on. The thing is, httpd's development process is nearly identical to Subversion's process... we stole most of it from you folks! So why all the angst in httpd-land, but not in Subversion-land? It's really a lack of

Re: httpd has no reason to improve...

2005-08-22 Thread Paul A Houle
Joe Schaefer wrote: Paul A Houle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: IMO market-share doesn't relate to project activity. The word I most associate with apache development is empowerment; cheifly to empower users to build better web stuff. Users that need to tweak the software in order to make

Re: httpd-2.x servertype inetd

2005-08-05 Thread Paul A Houle
Nick Kew wrote: Jan Kratochvil wrote: In what sense low-cost? Apache's high startup cost is self-reinforcing. We know it's a once-only thing, so we have every module do expensive things at startup rather than per-request. I don't see how inetd would affect that. The only thing you'd

macro facility/default conf file/auth groups

2005-08-04 Thread Paul A Houle
I'm in the middle of setting up (selective) WebDAV access for particular directories on a set of (almost) identical vhosts with complicated requirements for access control. I thought of a bunch of Apache gripes that I have often: (1) I've evolved a nice system for implementing virtual

Re: Initial mod_smtpd code.

2005-07-20 Thread Paul A Houle
Jem Berkes wrote: I could also start work on a mod_smtpd_dnsbl if the mentors feel that is worthwhile? This would look up a connecting IP address against a blacklist and return a descriptive string to mod_smtpd if the client should be rejected with an error: 550 5.7.1 Email rejected because

Re: mod_mbox user interface

2005-07-12 Thread Paul A Houle
Maxime Petazzoni wrote:. As promised : a first try at XHTML mockup. Comments about DOM structure and XHTML semantics are welcome ! http://skikda.bulix.org/~sam/ajax/jsless/ On firefox/win32, the box list and message lists aren't vertically aligned correctly (at least for me.) Other

Re: [VOTE] mod_ftp for HTTP Server Project

2005-07-07 Thread Paul A Houle
Jim Jagielski wrote: I therefore Call A Vote on whether we should support mod_ftp for inclusion into the Incubator and if we should accept mod_ftp upon graduation from the Incubator. I don't know if I get a vote, but it's -1 This would have been an exciting project in 1989, but ftp

Re: mod_smtpd project planning

2005-06-30 Thread Paul A Houle
Jem Berkes wrote: Hi all, I'm another student working on mod_smtpd Been running httpd 2.x since it appeared, but am new to development. What does mod_smtpd do? Is it a sendmail replacer or does it let people request content via smtp or what?

Re: mod_smtpd project planning

2005-06-30 Thread Paul A Houle
Luo Gang wrote: mod_smtpd is a SMTP protocol handler, used to receive mails by SMTP, maybe it will use sendmail as its MTA(not sure). Somebody hope it could also include a spam filter. Hooks for a spam/virus filter aren't optional if it's an autoresponder: running an

Re: mod_smtpd project planning

2005-06-30 Thread Paul A Houle
Jem Berkes wrote: This is the problem encountered by many spam filters, as to be most effective they really need to be _involved_ in the SMTP transaction and not just stage 2, after receipt happens. Think greylisting as an example. You read this? http://www.acme.com/mail_filtering/

Re: mod_smtpd project planning

2005-06-29 Thread Paul A Houle
Paul Querna wrote: As some of you might be aware, one of the Summer of Code Projects is an SMTP protocol module for httpd 2.x. Huh?

how do i debug a segfault?

2005-06-29 Thread Paul A Houle
This weekend we had the kind of experience with Apache httpd which we expect from Microsoft IIS or Tomcat. We're running a self-compiled 2.0.54 on RHEL 4 on x86_64 on a 4-way machine. Our server got kicked around midnight to rotate logs, but around 5AM we started getting a large

Re: how do i debug a segfault?

2005-06-29 Thread Paul A Houle
Akins, Brian wrote: Sorry if I missed it, which mpm are you using? prefork

Re: Monitoring HTTP error logs

2005-06-28 Thread Paul A Houle
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: Offhand, no, but I'd suggest looking at Piped Log scripts. This would be pretty trivial to do (even looking for very specific messages or masking out other common occurances.) The messages can then be written to one or more log file, as well. See the ErrorLog

Re: stress testing of Apache server

2005-05-04 Thread Paul A. Houle
On Tue, 03 May 2005 13:51:55 -0700, Paul Querna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sergey Ten wrote: Hello all, SourceLabs is developing a set of tests (and appropriate workload data) to perform stress testing of an Apache server using requests for static HTML pages only. We are interested in getting

Re: stress testing of Apache server

2005-05-04 Thread Paul A. Houle
On Tue, 03 May 2005 13:51:55 -0700, Paul Querna [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sergey Ten wrote: Hello all, SourceLabs is developing a set of tests (and appropriate workload data) to perform stress testing of an Apache server using requests for static HTML pages only. We are interested in getting

Re: simple-conf branch

2005-04-05 Thread Paul A. Houle
On Mon, 4 Apr 2005 15:01:34 -0700, Greg Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, but I very much disagree. I think back to the old days of access.conf, httpd.conf, and srm.conf. As an administrator, I absolutely detested that layout. I could NEVER figure out which file a given configuration was in.

Re: Do these broken clients still exist?

2005-04-04 Thread Paul A. Houle
On Sun, 3 Apr 2005 13:58:56 -0400 (Eastern Daylight Time), Joshua Slive [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does someone with a high-traffic, general-interest web site want to take a look through their logs for these user-agent strings. I don't mind keeping them if they make up even 1/100 of a

Re: Puzzling News

2005-03-02 Thread Paul A. Houle
On Tue, 1 Mar 2005 16:18:17 +0200 (SAST), Graham Leggett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The trouble with the authentication problem is that the credentials used for authentication are often used for way more than just finding out whether a user has access. That said, this is definitely a very useful

Re: Puzzling News

2005-03-01 Thread Paul A Houle
William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote: At 03:17 PM 2/28/2005, Paul A. Houle wrote: On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 21:09:55 +, Wayne S. Frazee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh boy - you don't know *what* you are missing :) Threads on Linux barely differ from distinct processes, while on Solaris they are truly

Re: Puzzling News

2005-02-28 Thread Paul A. Houle
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 21:09:55 +, Wayne S. Frazee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A move to 2.0 or 2.1 will take place gradually over time, I think, once PHP can be used with some expectation of stability on a non-prefork-MPM. Note: I am not insinuating PHP is not thread safe, but rather many

Re: Puzzling News

2005-02-28 Thread Paul A. Houle
On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 21:31:19 +, Wayne S. Frazee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Correct me if I am wrong, but I have seen much that would purport the worker MPM to deliever gains in terms of capacity handling and capacity-burst-handling as well as slimming down the resource footprint of the

Re: [VOTE] 2.1.3 as beta

2005-02-23 Thread Paul A. Houle
On Wed, 23 Feb 2005 16:57:20 +0100, Matthieu Estrade [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Justin Erenkrantz wrote: I think it's the best way. Maybe we could also provide two packages, httpd-with-apr and another one without apr No, they should be separate, and having two different packages is just a

Re: UNIX MPMs

2005-02-10 Thread Paul A. Houle
On Thu, 10 Feb 2005 11:56:47 +, Nick Maynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UNIX MPMs that actually _work_ in Apache 2: worker prefork (old) Yeah, but what if you want to run PHP or mod_perl? Sure, PHP or mod_perl ~might~ work for you if you're lucky and you don't