Re: [jruby-dev] Jline fork

2009-02-17 Thread Conrad Meyer
On Tuesday 17 February 2009 10:47:01 pm Charles Oliver Nutter wrote: > ... > As Koichiro replied, he's working on an FFI-based readline that will > probably work better than Jline. The fork on Github will remain for > people that want or need to build their own with any additional patches, > and ho

[jruby-dev] [jira] Created: (JRUBY-3415) Need FFI platform files generated for x86_64 windows

2009-02-17 Thread Koichiro Ohba (JIRA)
Need FFI platform files generated for x86_64 windows Key: JRUBY-3415 URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/JRUBY-3415 Project: JRuby Issue Type: Task Reporter: Koichiro Ohba

Re: [jruby-dev] Jline fork

2009-02-17 Thread Charles Oliver Nutter
Nick Sieger wrote: Maybe you should rename it to jruby-jline or something to indicate how you intend to fix things to work with JRuby. You're not necessarily taking over maintenance of jline for any possible consumers, right? You just want to make it work better for JRuby and will incorporate the

Re: [jruby-dev] Jline fork

2009-02-17 Thread Charles Oliver Nutter
Charles Oliver Nutter wrote: I've forked Jline: http://github.com/headius/jline/tree/master After thinking about this a bit more, I guess I actually meant fork in the "I want a place to commit patches" sense. If we continue with Jline (and that's a big if) we would need to have a full rele

[jruby-dev] readline-ffi (Re: Jline fork)

2009-02-17 Thread Koichiro Ohba
Hi, I'm developing readline-ffi now. Because I think jline has some problems about compatibility. For example, * it does not support input of multibyte characters * configuration for GNU readline such as .inputrc is not supported The project's goal is being included in JRuby, but it is just a

Re: [jruby-dev] Formalizing load and require of .class

2009-02-17 Thread Joseph Athman
Good enough for me! 1.2 is shaping up to be another great release. Joe On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter < charles.nut...@sun.com> wrote: > I appreciate your position, and I totally agree. Just look at the number of > deprecated methods we have collected. I did a pass during

Re: [jruby-dev] Formalizing load and require of .class

2009-02-17 Thread Charles Oliver Nutter
I appreciate your position, and I totally agree. Just look at the number of deprecated methods we have collected. I did a pass during 1.2 to strip that number down a bit (especially since many were over a year old) but we're definitely erring on the side of caution when it comes to user-visible

Re: [jruby-dev] Formalizing load and require of .class

2009-02-17 Thread Joseph Athman
No, I don't think personally I have any code that would be effected, I'm just thinking it might be good to formalize a process for when these kinds of issues come up. Since the behavior was never exactly specified I don't think this problem can be considered a "bug" that is being fixed. It's more

Re: [jruby-dev] Formalizing load and require of .class

2009-02-17 Thread Charles Oliver Nutter
Is this going to affect code of yours? I suppose it could be reduced to a warning, but it's pretty hard to fix the issue I resolved without breaking this behavior. And for what it's worth it was never really advocated or recommended, though I know that's little consolation. Joseph Athman wrote

Re: [jruby-dev] Jline fork

2009-02-17 Thread Joe
One more thing... I remember talk about a readline-ffi library. I think development is still waiting on a windows-only ffi bug. Are there plans to switch to that in the future? Would this fork mean that JRuby is sticking with JLine? Just curious Joe On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:45 AM, Charles Oli

Re: [jruby-dev] Jline fork

2009-02-17 Thread Nick Sieger
Maybe you should rename it to jruby-jline or something to indicate how you intend to fix things to work with JRuby. You're not necessarily taking over maintenance of jline for any possible consumers, right? You just want to make it work better for JRuby and will incorporate the code into JRuby rele

Re: [jruby-dev] Formalizing load and require of .class

2009-02-17 Thread Joseph Athman
Is there any way to deprecate the current frowned upon usage of require and release a new point release of JRuby before 1.2? It seems a little harsh to simply remove something that used to work (even poorly) without giving people a nice way of checking their code for this problem. Rails seems to

[jruby-dev] [jira] Created: (JRUBY-3414) New ruby_test failures

2009-02-17 Thread Charles Oliver Nutter (JIRA)
New ruby_test failures -- Key: JRUBY-3414 URL: http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/JRUBY-3414 Project: JRuby Issue Type: Bug Components: Core Classes/Modules Reporter: Charles Oliver Nutter Ideally the

Re: [jruby-dev] Formalizing load and require of .class

2009-02-17 Thread Thomas E Enebo
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 12:31 AM, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote: > Stephen Bannasch wrote: >> >> At 8:38 PM -0600 2/16/09, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote: >>> >>> I'm working on http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/JRUBY-3214 and I think we >>> need to ratchet down what load and require do when loading .cla

Re: [jruby-dev] Formalizing load and require of .class

2009-02-17 Thread Logan Barnett
I think this has come around a few times with Monkeybars apps for some of our users. The workaround for it is pretty easy, but I think some greater separation between Java and Ruby is better here. It could also help the developer in thinking that $LOAD_PATH != $CLASSPATH, which is a somewhat relat

Re: [jruby-dev] Jline fork

2009-02-17 Thread Joe
Bah, didn't read the whole email... it's too early... as soon as i clicked "send" :( I'd say give it a new name, I doubt they'll hand it over. You might have more clout, but they wouldn't give me commit access when I asked. I'm pretty sure they want to remain in control of JLine. Sorry about th

Re: [jruby-dev] Jline fork

2009-02-17 Thread Joe
When forking a project, shouldn't you change the name of it? Linux distributions seem likely to be annoyed if you fork and keep the same name. Joe On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:45 AM, Charles Oliver Nutter wrote: > I've forked Jline: > > http://github.com/headius/jline/tree/master > > I know the ma

Re: [jruby-dev] Formalizing load and require of .class

2009-02-17 Thread Matt Fletcher
Sounds like a worthwhile change to me. On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:38 PM, Charles Oliver Nutter < charles.nut...@sun.com> wrote: > I'm working on http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/JRUBY-3214 and I think we > need to ratchet down what load and require do when loading .class files. > They've started to