Re: [log4cxx] Towards a release

2020-03-02 Thread Stephen Webb
I can describe the concrete problem I will have with LOGCXX-319 given that all the code for which I am responsible has been written using log4cxx 0.10 In 0.10, you have to know the macros are "blocks" not "statements" as any conditional logging macro has to be written without a trailing semicolon.

Re: [log4cxx] Towards a release

2020-03-02 Thread Matt Sicker
It may be helpful to document breaking changes in a clear manner. While the version number may imply instability, the fact that it's been released by a super longtime PMC already brings up the logistical issues of backward compatibility and how one wishes to define that. On Mon, 2 Mar 2020 at 11:2

Re: [log4cxx] Towards a release

2020-03-02 Thread Thorsten Schöning
Guten Tag Ralph Goers, am Montag, 2. März 2020 um 16:34 schrieben Sie: > There is a difference between a user’s compile failing vs the build > having changed. And which? Things don't work in the worst case either way and need to be adopted. Why exactly is getting rid of build support by ANT accep

Re: [log4cxx] Towards a release

2020-03-02 Thread Ralph Goers
There is a difference between a user’s compile failing vs the build having changed. Given how old log4cxx is I would expect it to be used in a fair number of places despite its version number. I haven’t looked at the code myself but is there no way to keep it backward compatible while also keep

Re: [log4cxx] Towards a release

2020-03-02 Thread Thorsten Schöning
Guten Tag Stephen Webb, am Montag, 2. März 2020 um 12:45 schrieben Sie: > The issue is it has changed to core log4cxx api so that existing 0.10 code > may not compile. > The macros are the core log4cxx api. AFAIK there are no commitments to a stable API anyway, the version number itself doesn't m

Re: [log4cxx] Towards a release

2020-03-02 Thread Stephen Webb
The issue is it has changed to core log4cxx api so that existing 0.10 code may not compile. The macros are the core log4cxx api. On Mon, Mar 2, 2020, 9:32 PM Thorsten Schöning wrote: > Guten Tag Stephen Webb, > am Montag, 2. März 2020 um 11:05 schrieben Sie: > > > In my review I did encounter a

Re: [log4cxx] Towards a release

2020-03-02 Thread Thorsten Schöning
Guten Tag Stephen Webb, am Montag, 2. März 2020 um 11:05 schrieben Sie: > In my review I did encounter an item of concern to me. I see that 0.11 > cannot be used in place of 0.10 due to LOG4CXX-319. I personally am > responsible for hundreds of thousands of lines of code that will not work > with

Re: [log4cxx] Towards a release

2020-03-02 Thread Stephen Webb
I have not changed anything. Just used 'mvn post-site'. It is simply an attempt to see if there is anyone interested in log4cxx. In my review I did encounter an item of concern to me. I see that 0.11 cannot be used in place of 0.10 due to LOG4CXX-319. I personally am responsible for hundreds of tho

Re: [log4cxx] Towards a release

2020-03-02 Thread Thorsten Schöning
Guten Tag Stephen Webb, am Sonntag, 1. März 2020 um 07:19 schrieben Sie: > I have posted the result of "mvn post-site" to > https://stephen-webb.github.io/ Looks the same like what is published already to me: https://logging.apache.org/log4cxx/next_stable/index.html Shouldn't it be more of inte