Re: Academic question about Solr's embedded web server

2018-10-18 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Erick, On 10/14/18 00:03, Erick Erickson wrote: > Can we stick to the question? Which is "what advantages Tomcat > might bring to be worth the _very_ significant effort it would take > to replace Jetty, assuming that it's a choice between the two".

Re: Academic question about Solr's embedded web server

2018-10-14 Thread Shawn Heisey
On 10/13/2018 11:41 AM, Martin Gainty wrote: MG>that would only be true if your support didnt spend all their time on self-serving evasive answers MG>look at the 100s of JIRA requests that were torpedoed by MarkTrump Are you TRYING to start a flamewar?  I may regret asking this, but I'm

Re: Academic question about Solr's embedded web server

2018-10-13 Thread Erick Erickson
er Schultz > > *Sent:* Friday, October 12, 2018 4:30 PM *To:* > > dev@lucene.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Academic question about Solr's > > embedded web server > > > > Shawn, > > > > On 10/12/18 15:52, Shawn Heisey wrote: > >> On 10/12/2018 1:18 PM, Chr

Re: Academic question about Solr's embedded web server

2018-10-13 Thread Christopher Schultz
: > > -- - -- > > *From:* Christopher Schultz > *Sent:* Friday, October 12, 2018 4:30 PM *To:* > dev@lucene.apache.org *Subject:* Re: Academic question about Solr's > embedded web server > > Shawn, > > On 10/12/18 15:52, Shawn Heisey wrote: >> On 10/12/2018 1:18 PM, Chr

Re: Academic question about Solr's embedded web server

2018-10-13 Thread Martin Gainty
From: Christopher Schultz Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 4:30 PM To: dev@lucene.apache.org Subject: Re: Academic question about Solr's embedded web server -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Shawn, On 10/12/18 15:52, Shawn Heisey wrote: > On 10

Re: Academic question about Solr's embedded web server

2018-10-12 Thread Erick Erickson
I wasn't part of the original decision either. That said, this will be an uphill battle, for reasons other than "which is better". If we're going to consider major surgery at that level, we've been talking about ripping out Jetty completely and going with Netty or similar. That notion has stalled,

Re: Academic question about Solr's embedded web server

2018-10-12 Thread Shawn Heisey
On 10/12/2018 2:30 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote: I think the primary reason is that Jetty is more lightweight than Tomcat. I think this is more of a perception than actual truth. That seems like a very real possibility. And the Jetty that's included with Solr is considerably stripped down

Re: Academic question about Solr's embedded web server

2018-10-12 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Shawn, On 10/12/18 15:52, Shawn Heisey wrote: > On 10/12/2018 1:18 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote: >> I'm curious as to why Solr uses Jetty and not Tomcat. > > I wasn't part of the project when that decision was made. Jetty > was already included

Re: Academic question about Solr's embedded web server

2018-10-12 Thread Shawn Heisey
On 10/12/2018 1:18 PM, Christopher Schultz wrote: I'm curious as to why Solr uses Jetty and not Tomcat. I wasn't part of the project when that decision was made. Jetty was already included with Solr when I first downloaded it -- Solr version 1.4.0, back in 2009.  Jetty wasn't quite as

Academic question about Solr's embedded web server

2018-10-12 Thread Christopher Schultz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 All, I'm curious as to why Solr uses Jetty and not Tomcat. I'm a PMC member for Tomcat and, though I won't go on a crusade to replace Jetty with Tomcat, here, I would still like to understand the motivations behind going with Jetty over Tomcat.