Re: Repository Plugin: Should SCM be Required??

2009-09-30 Thread Albert Kurucz
I agree with Brett, Gilles, Daniel. Gilles, thanks for that reference, I think we should all learn from that! On Wed, Sep 30, 2009 at 7:49 AM, Daniel Kulp wrote: > > I agree with Brett.    Strongly recommend, but not require. > > Dan > > > On Wed September 30 2009 12:57:34 am Brett Porter wrote:

Re: Repository Plugin: Should SCM be Required??

2009-09-30 Thread Daniel Kulp
I agree with Brett.Strongly recommend, but not require. Dan On Wed September 30 2009 12:57:34 am Brett Porter wrote: > I think any rule needs to be enforced on the server side as much as in > the repository plugin too. > > For mine, I think strongly recommending SCM is a good idea, but we

Re: Repository Plugin: Should SCM be Required??

2009-09-30 Thread Gilles Scokart
There is no requirements for open sources project to offer access to a repository : http://www.opensource.org/docs/osd So recommending it is good, but make it mandatory would be excessive. Gilles Scokart

Re: Repository Plugin: Should SCM be Required??

2009-09-29 Thread Brett Porter
I think any rule needs to be enforced on the server side as much as in the repository plugin too. For mine, I think strongly recommending SCM is a good idea, but we do allow artifacts that are redistributable and not open source and so it should not be required. If you were to get fancy you

Re: Repository Plugin: Should SCM be Required??

2009-09-29 Thread Albert Kurucz
You can turn a quality of something to be a requirement only if that something can be verified at any given time. How about ? Would you accept this? Not bbecause you want to verify that you can connect to the server? What if the server is down because of maintenance? Or it is behind a firewall? Acc

Re: Repository Plugin: Should SCM be Required??

2009-09-29 Thread Brian Fox
I will also add that since the primary use case of this plugin is to produce bundles for central, that if this turns out to be a complete mess, we can decide to change or reduce the requirement. I do however think we should try and see how it works out. If the number of exceptions becomes unmanagea

Re: Repository Plugin: Should SCM be Required??

2009-09-29 Thread Brian Fox
If we don't require it then people simply won't populate it even when it could be done. There will always be a manual way to get artifacts through a process into central if they don't meet the requirements that would have to be judged on a case by case basis. I think that a significant majority o

Re: Repository Plugin: Should SCM be Required??

2009-09-29 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 2009-09-29, at 2:14 PM, Jesse McConnell wrote: there are certainly benefits to having it in place, I wonder about the scm metadata suffering from bit rot over time as project juggle around stuff in their scm's though.. kind of throws a monkey wrench into the materialization process for proj

Re: Repository Plugin: Should SCM be Required??

2009-09-29 Thread Albert Kurucz
I agree with Jörg. is just another "required" information, which helps nothing but it may lead to corruption. OSS projects should be allowed to protect their version control server with a firewall. Many -s of different artifacts, with the same ip address of 192.168... would be ugly and confusing.

Re: Repository Plugin: Should SCM be Required??

2009-09-29 Thread Jörg Schaible
John Casey wrote: > Hi, > > I've been having a conversation with Jason and some others lately about > the repository plugin, and the fact that it doesn't require the SCM > section of the POM. POMs with this section missing disable the project > materialization features that some of the more recen

Re: Repository Plugin: Should SCM be Required??

2009-09-29 Thread Brian Fox
I think having it even if over time it rots, is better than having nothing to start with. Bottom line is that we will want this in central and will look to automate enforcement, so the bundle plugin should line up with that process to simplify life for everyone. On Tue, Sep 29, 2009 at 2:14 PM, Je

Re: Repository Plugin: Should SCM be Required??

2009-09-29 Thread Jesse McConnell
there are certainly benefits to having it in place, I wonder about the scm metadata suffering from bit rot over time as project juggle around stuff in their scm's though.. kind of throws a monkey wrench into the materialization process for projects or dependencies jesse -- jesse mcconnell jesse.

Re: Repository Plugin: Should SCM be Required??

2009-09-29 Thread Jason van Zyl
On 2009-09-29, at 1:56 PM, John Casey wrote: Hi, I've been having a conversation with Jason and some others lately about the repository plugin, and the fact that it doesn't require the SCM section of the POM. POMs with this section missing disable the project materialization features tha

Repository Plugin: Should SCM be Required??

2009-09-29 Thread John Casey
Hi, I've been having a conversation with Jason and some others lately about the repository plugin, and the fact that it doesn't require the SCM section of the POM. POMs with this section missing disable the project materialization features that some of the more recent Maven tooling (m2eclipse