I should clarify - parts were removed and parts were added :)
I'm not sure if this is exactly that Tianqi had in mind or not. But the
document is open to feedback. These threads are getting a bit confused. So
if you are going to discuss the document - please prefer the [DISCUSS] -
Revisions to
I think it was removed from the document by Steffen from feedback
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/4ed84034f9cac4cacae865dd5b5699aa1f9d650c0feee37072df41fa@%3Cdev.mxnet.apache.org%3E
The diff is here
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/diffpagesbyversion.action?pageId=95652053=4=3
On
Neither can I.
> On Oct 22, 2018, at 12:19 AM, Naveen Swamy wrote:
>
> this suggestion looks like it is putting the onus on contributors to
> collaborate with contributors outside their org to get nominated to be
> committer or a PMC of this project.
> Every organization has its own business
Hi Steffen
I don't see that text in the proposal. I personally think the bar should be
the same for everyone independent of their affiliation, as per Apache ways
of working, and per ethical principles of equality and meritocracy,
otherwise we open the door to discrimination.
This old movie with
Hi Pedro:
If any of the Amazonians have enough merit to get the committership.
The PMCs outside Amazon should recognize and bring them to the
committership -- This proposal is not about discriminating against anyone.
Please do note that this community is bigger than Amazon itself -- there
are
Hi Pedro:
If any of the Amazonians have enough merit to get the committership.
The PMCs outside Amazon should recognize and bring them to the
committership -- This proposal is not about discriminating against anyone.
Please do note that this community is bigger than Amazon itself -- there
are
Tianqi and Pedro - I suggested the following in
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/MXNET/Become+an+Apache+MXNet+%28incubating%29+Committer+and+PPMC+Member+Proposal
:
In general, a nominee for PPMC will be evaluated based on the merit and
contribution, independent of his affiliation.
Hi
Tianqi, there's a saying that the road to hell is paved with good
intentions. I think most of us here are enthusiastic about increasing
diversity of contributions to this project and are working actively towards
this. Having any kind of positive or negative discrimination seems to me
like it
I want to clarify that this would not prevent Amazon contributors from
being nominated. Nor it would prevent collaboration between Amazon
employees. A good thing about Apache is that everything is recorded and
presented to the entire community, this includes the dev list,
github review/commit
I want to clarify that this would not prevent Amazon contributors from
being nominated. Nor it would prevent collaboration between Amazon
employees. A good thing about Apache is that everything is recorded and
presented to the entire community, this includes the dev list,
github review/commit
this suggestion looks like it is putting the onus on contributors to
collaborate with contributors outside their org to get nominated to be
committer or a PMC of this project.
Every organization has its own business goals, on the way to meet their
objectives if their employees happen to be great
>
> Many potential committers and
> PMC won’t interact with the non-Amazonians at all (since there are so few),
> so they’d be relegated to obscurity and hopelessness by default.
>
If potential contributors do not comes from Amazon, then the Amazonian PMC
can nominate them :) If the potential
Hi Tianqi -
+1 . I like the idea to grow diversity at the project and encourage
communication beyond people sitting next to each other. I also support the
way you described as guideline, not has a hard rule. I think it is
important we focus on merit and contributions when evaluating nominee for
Dear MXNet Community:
There has been a great discussion going on in terms of
PMC/Committer Criteria. As a community move forward, it is important to
make the community inclusive to everyone and encourage folks to work
together.
I want to propose the following proposal courtesy: when a PMC
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