Re: Stop redistributing source code of 3rdparty dependencies to avoid licensing issues

2020-01-21 Thread Markus Weimer
On Mon, Jan 20, 2020 at 1:17 PM Lausen, Leonard wrote: > If I don't misremember, our mentor Markus Weimer suggested at KDD 2019 in a > conversation that it's easiest to stop bundling non-ASF 3rdparty code. You do not misremember :-) If possible, it is easiest for everyone involved to capture the

Re: Stop redistributing source code of 3rdparty dependencies to avoid licensing issues

2020-01-20 Thread Lausen, Leonard
Quote from Tianqi: > The pro of doing so is that it indeed simplifies the release process, as > these additional dependencies becomes category-B level dependencies as in > https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html Why would the dependencies become category-B level? It seems all licensing consider

Re: Stop redistributing source code of 3rdparty dependencies to avoid licensing issues

2020-01-19 Thread Pedro Larroy
-1 I think is brittle to download a piece of source code that needs network connectivity to build. The network is always in flux. Source archives that need to download too many dependencies to build will end up broken with time. I would expect source to build with a reasonable set of well known sy

Re: Stop redistributing source code of 3rdparty dependencies to avoid licensing issues

2020-01-17 Thread Marco de Abreu
I agree with Tianqi. We may change our build system, but this won't free us from the necessity to validate the licenses of our dependencies. The question at this point is whether we are allowed to differentiate between our main-source and hold it to the strict standards while treating the third pa

Re: Stop redistributing source code of 3rdparty dependencies to avoid licensing issues

2020-01-17 Thread Tianqi Chen
I don't have an opinion, but would like to list pros and cons of doing so. The pro of doing so is that it indeed simplifies the release process, as these additional dependencies becomes category-B level dependencies as in https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html The con of doing so is that it b

Re: Stop redistributing source code of 3rdparty dependencies to avoid licensing issues

2020-01-17 Thread Yuan Tang
+1 On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 1:59 PM Chris Olivier wrote: > +1 > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 10:19 AM Lausen, Leonard > > wrote: > > > Dear MXNet community, > > > > as per recent mail on gene...@incubator.apache.org [1] there are a > number > > of > > licensing issues in MXNet 1.6rc1. Based on anec

Re: Stop redistributing source code of 3rdparty dependencies to avoid licensing issues

2020-01-17 Thread Chris Olivier
+1 On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 10:19 AM Lausen, Leonard wrote: > Dear MXNet community, > > as per recent mail on gene...@incubator.apache.org [1] there are a number > of > licensing issues in MXNet 1.6rc1. Based on anecdotal evidence I believe > there > has been no release so far without any licensi

Stop redistributing source code of 3rdparty dependencies to avoid licensing issues

2020-01-17 Thread Lausen, Leonard
Dear MXNet community, as per recent mail on gene...@incubator.apache.org [1] there are a number of licensing issues in MXNet 1.6rc1. Based on anecdotal evidence I believe there has been no release so far without any licensing issues, which is a blocker to MXNet graduating from it's incubating stat