Re: Are the web-facesconfig_1_0.dtd and web-facesconfig_1_1.dtd files really SUN confidential/proprietary property?

2007-04-03 Thread Niall Pemberton
On 4/2/07, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First - it's just a convenience, so you could remove it if you wanted, with the possible disadvantages that Mike mentioned. Second - the files were originally included, I removed them after licensing issues were mentioned - then there was a

Re: Are the web-facesconfig_1_0.dtd and web-facesconfig_1_1.dtd files really SUN confidential/proprietary property?

2007-04-03 Thread Mike Kienenberger
Maybe someone who is subscribed to legal-discuss (I'm not) can post the issue over there and see if there's any consensus, then report the results back here? On 4/3/07, Niall Pemberton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 4/2/07, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: First - it's just a

Re: Are the web-facesconfig_1_0.dtd and web-facesconfig_1_1.dtd files really SUN confidential/proprietary property?

2007-04-03 Thread Paul McMahan
On Apr 2, 2007, at 5:53 PM, Martin Marinschek wrote: First - it's just a convenience, so you could remove it if you wanted, with the possible disadvantages that Mike mentioned. Second - the files were originally included, I removed them after licensing issues were mentioned - then there was a

Are the web-facesconfig_1_0.dtd and web-facesconfig_1_1.dtd files really SUN confidential/proprietary property?

2007-04-02 Thread Lance Bader
I am disturbed by the web-facesconfig_1_0.dtd and web-facesconfig_1_1.dtd files included in myfaces-impl-1.2.0-SNAPSHOT.jar. The prolog in both files says !-- Copyright 2004 Sun Microsystems, Inc. All rights reserved. SUN PROPRIETARY/CONFIDENTIAL. Use is subject to license terms. -- I'm willing

Re: Are the web-facesconfig_1_0.dtd and web-facesconfig_1_1.dtd files really SUN confidential/proprietary property?

2007-04-02 Thread David Jencks
Over in geronimo we noticed this text and have responded by: 1. for the schemas that we generate code from (using xmlbeans or jaxb) we checked the schemas into a non-publically-accessible repository (with our tck stuff) and generate the code there, and publish source and binary jars, both

Re: Are the web-facesconfig_1_0.dtd and web-facesconfig_1_1.dtd files really SUN confidential/proprietary property?

2007-04-02 Thread Mike Kienenberger
For this particular file set, the person to answer would be Martin Marinschek as he committed the license and the files. On 4/2/07, Mike Kienenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lance, I think you can safely delete these files without impacting your application (although your app may go out to

Re: Are the web-facesconfig_1_0.dtd and web-facesconfig_1_1.dtd files really SUN confidential/proprietary property?

2007-04-02 Thread Mike Kienenberger
One other thing to note is that the sun 1.1 dtd file is included verbatim as part of the JSF spec. See 10.3.3 Application Configuration Resource Format On 4/2/07, Mike Kienenberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For this particular file set, the person to answer would be Martin Marinschek as he

Re: Are the web-facesconfig_1_0.dtd and web-facesconfig_1_1.dtd files really SUN confidential/proprietary property?

2007-04-02 Thread Mike Kienenberger
Lance, I think you can safely delete these files without impacting your application (although your app may go out to the internet and attempt to resolve the dtd reference if the files are not available locally). I do see a license file located in the following location which does appear to

Re: Are the web-facesconfig_1_0.dtd and web-facesconfig_1_1.dtd files really SUN confidential/proprietary property?

2007-04-02 Thread Paul McMahan
On Apr 2, 2007, at 11:38 AM, David Jencks wrote: Over in geronimo we noticed this text and have responded by: 1. for the schemas that we generate code from (using xmlbeans or jaxb) we checked the schemas into a non-publically-accessible repository (with our tck stuff) and generate the code

Re: Are the web-facesconfig_1_0.dtd and web-facesconfig_1_1.dtd files really SUN confidential/proprietary property?

2007-04-02 Thread Mike Kienenberger
I have tools that will create a DTD for a specific xml file. Perhaps someone can provide a comprehensive faces-config file matching the DTD and I can just parse the DTD from that file? Seems like that'd be easier (or at least give a better starting point) than going from scratch. On 4/2/07,

Re: Are the web-facesconfig_1_0.dtd and web-facesconfig_1_1.dtd files really SUN confidential/proprietary property?

2007-04-02 Thread Martin Marinschek
First - it's just a convenience, so you could remove it if you wanted, with the possible disadvantages that Mike mentioned. Second - the files were originally included, I removed them after licensing issues were mentioned - then there was a lengthy discussion (which I don't remember anymore),