Hi!
I've seen a performance test which showed that the jboss serialization
isnt faster in contrast to the default serialization.
If this is the truth we should rework
http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Performance a little bit as there it is
shown as a performance gain.
Could someone please clarify
Martin Marinschek wrote:
1.1 -- branch
1.2 Tomcat 6 -- branch
1.2 Tomcat 5.5. -- trunk
+1
It might be also great to have more of those current virtual
directory, say
branch11
current12tc6
current12tc5 (=current too)
I'd name both 1.2 current as sometimes in the future the tc6 stuff
will be
Hi Sean!
It looks like the key guys are rather busy these days.
What is the current plan and what do we do for current users? Do we
need an
intermediate release that addresses things in a backwards compatible
way?
The current tomahawk head is fixed in a way, that the dummyForm stuff is
Hi!
OK so the only issue with Tomahawk head is that people need to add
h:form around there components right?
Or - if they use myfaces-impl too - to add some text to their own
faces-config.xml
Do we need a new core release or is this just tomahawk only?
I wont put my mother on it, but I guess
Hi!
+1 for branching the current trunk to a core1.1
+1 for working with jsf 1.2 tc5 on the new trunk
+1 to allow Stan to commit its work to a core1.2tc6 branch
whatever we do with this branch, we wont loose Stans work and it will be
best to have it in svn.
Whenever we decide to move our focus
Hi!
1) TC 5.x (or other not JSP 2.1 compliant)
and
3) TC 6 or Glassfish (or other JSP 2.1 compliant)
TC6 after the first few stable builds. If no other technique requires
ist, I am not sure if we move away from tomcat.
Its also not sure if we ever move to facelets. Especially when upcoming
jsf
Hi!
C:\projects\MyFaces1.2\jsf12tc6\coresvn info
Path: .
URL: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/core/trunk
I did my commit from jsf12tc6\core. Why would this subdirectory point
to trunk?
Maybe you copied the .svn directories too?
Ciao,
Mario
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Hi!
-fileupload or tree2 are working fine.
I wonder that you found that tree2 works fine.
Yesterday I reverted two commits in svn head as the tree was completely
broken here.
I planned to inform Sean about it, but havent found the time lately, but
now its done :-)
The commits were: r410269 and
-fileupload or tree2 are working fine.
I wonder that you found that tree2 works fine.
Ok, I checked the release creation date and those changes where
introduces before the branch.
So definitely the tree is broken, even it our examples works.
The problems were:
usage of
Sean,
please add the following snippet to the release notes regarding how to
reactive the dummyForm feature:
renderer
component-familyjavax.faces.Command/component-family
renderer-typejavax.faces.Button/renderer-type
Hi Sean!
In the future, when there is a branch, please make your fixes on the
branch instead of the trunk. If we focus on the branch and get it
released then we can merge down soon enough.
Ok, I reverted the patch from head and fixed it on the branch now.
I have some problems to compile the
Hi!
+String msg = Change component/tag ' + clientId + ' from
javax.faces.*/h:tagName / +
+to org.apache.myfaces.*/t:tagName /, or embed it in a
form. This is not a bug. +
+ MyFaces core implementation no longer supports
formless
Hi Sean!
Yes we should have a Upgrading to Tomahawk 1.1.3 wiki. If someone
writes it I will be sure to link to it in the release notes.
http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/Upgrading_to_Tomahawk_1.1.3
I changed the exception in shared accordingly.
Ciao,
Mario
Hi!
Please use some org.apache.myfaces... namespace in front of
ENABLE_CLIENT_SIDE_VALIDATION
What about integrate
http://struts.apache.org/struts-shale/features-commons-validator.html
into tomahawk?
Then a simple global configuration parameter is missing, no?
Ciao,
Mario
Hi Matthias!
You mean client/server attribute?
this is a no-no (search the mail archive)
I know about the limitations of its current approach, but I meant to
extend this library to honor a global flag too.
I remember Craig isnt against such a flag - I think its just a matter of
no time.
To me
Hi Sean,
myfaces/shared/branches/2_0_2/core/src/main/java/org/apache/myfaces/shared/renderkit/html/HtmlLinkRendererBase.java
- throw new IllegalArgumentException(Component + clientId +
must be embedded in an form);
+String path =
Yes, unhappily - I get it too:
java.lang.IllegalArgumentException: Component _idJsp3 must be embedded in an
form
at
org.apache.myfaces.shared_impl.renderkit.html.HtmlLinkRendererBase.renderJavaScriptAnchorStart(HtmlLinkRendererBase.java:209)
Ciao,
Mario
Sorry Sean, I still get this
mmm w/ RI I get some issues.
I am not sure which part of tomahawk should/will work with RI.
I do not use the RI, so I might not be much of help here.
Someone else with more insights? Are these new problems? Should this
hold the release?
Ciao,
Mario
Yeaa, lets give him fun ;-)
+1 for Doc M
Mario
+1 for Mr. M
Dennis Byrne
-Original Message-
From: Matthias Wessendorf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 8, 2006 04:05 PM
To: 'MyFaces Development'
Subject: Re: [JSF 1.2] question
+1 on Martin.
Eventuelly I'd
Jo-o!
This is a vote to release Tomahawk 1.1.3 (and its dependencies:
MyFaces Shared 2.0.2 and MyFaces Maven 1.0.3.)
+1 for my vote
+1
Ciao,
Mario
Hi!
I had to apply the following patch to be able to compile:
Index: shared-tomahawk/pom.xml
===
--- shared-tomahawk/pom.xml (Revision 413826)
+++ shared-tomahawk/pom.xml (Arbeitskopie)
@@ -7,7 +7,7 @@
Hi Sean,
ok, thanks, Done!
Ciao,
Mario
Hi!
If t:commandLink is deprecated, t:commandNavigation should be
deprecated too, but then we should have an alternative or a different
implementation of commandNavigation.
After a quick look at HtmlNavigationRenderer I think it should be
possible to use delegation instead of inheritance to
Hi!
A warm welcome to you both!
Ciao,
Mario
Hi!
As you might know, if you have a navigation rule with redirect /
configuration you'll lose all the request scoped data like:
* managed beans
* messages
* locale
I've checked in the RedirectTrackerManager into tomahawk-sandbox which
is a try to solve this problem.
You have nothing else to do
Hi!
+1
However, we should adapt our form/commandLink/commandButton stuff to
make its output compatible with RI real soon.
Ciao,
Mario
Hi!
It would be better to have a context initialization parameter to
enable this behaviour.. sometimes it is expected to drop request
scoped stuff on redirects :).
Yes, when I add the number of redirects configuration I'll add this too.
BTW, nice idea..
Thanks!
Some days ago I was thinking
Hi!
/export/home/mrmaven/myfaces-nightly/tomahawk/core/src/main/java/org/apache/myfaces/component/html/util/HtmlComponentUtils.java:[63,39]
getBooleanValue(javax.faces.component.UIComponent) in
org.apache.myfaces.shared_tomahawk.renderkit.RendererUtils cannot be
applied to
For some reason maven did not recreate the shared_* branches.
Please issue a maven clean on continuum to fix this annoying thing.
Thanks!
Mario
Hey boy,
Bernd changed the pom xml
yea - tx a lot for this, however, I do not understand why my and others
local build worked without this change - however a tree times salut to
Bernd.
Ciao,
Mario
Matthias Wessendorf schrieb:
can you bring that to JIRA ?
I think there is no need to bring this to jira as I already fixed this
with the commit 398003 from 28.4.2006.
Anyway Roland, good catch, though, why didnt you tried the latest source?
Sorry for the inconvenience.
Ciao,
Mario
Hi!
On myfaces-user there is a request to add the following to our datatable:
* caption
* id/headers stuff
It looks like the caption thingy is fixed in JSF 1.2, though, I'll
backport it to tomahawks datatable.
The description about the id/header stuff can be found here:
Hi Cosma!
1) The class HtmlJSCookMenuRenderer tries to find the parent form
searching for an UIForm component, but the Trinidad CoreForm doesn't
extend UIForm. This cause the the dummyform stuff rendered in the
page.
2) Using either af:form or h:form, calling
addHiddenCommandParameter on
Hi Cosma!
Okey, done.
Here is the patched patch :)
Ok, fine, but, wouldnt it be best to change the
org.apache.myfaces.shared.util._ComponentUtils.findNestingForm to work
with trinidad too and use this in HtmlJSCookMenuRenderer.java? Just an idea.
Everything else looks fine to me.
Ciao,
Mario
Hi Cosma!
Thank for your review Mario,
No problem ;-)
using findNestingForm may be good, but I don't know if it is used
elsewhere. Maybe other objects rely on the component returned to be
an UIForm?
Could you please check this, e.g. a cast to UIForm will fail.
But if this is not the case, I
Hi Cosma!
Maybe we can do some cleanout, removing the RenderUtils.findParentForm
and making SubFormRenderer and HtmlTabbedPaneRenderer use the
_ComponentUtils method? What do you think about this?
Yes, great work.
So lets cleanup this stuff, but maybe without deleting those methods. We
have
Cosma Colanicchia schrieb:
Okay, but 1 and 4 returns an UIForm, while 2 returns an UIComponent.
Ok, I overlooked it, Sorry!
1 is in shared, so you safely can change the return type as we bundle
a renamed copy of shared with tomahawk.
and as 4 is also only used by the class itself it should be
Hi Cosma!
Please correct if I'm wrong: references to shared class must be done
using the shared package for classes in shared package itself, and
using shared_tomahawk from the external tomahawk classes?
Exactly!
Ciao,
Mario
Hi Cosma!
About RenderUtils I'm in doubt.. I changed the return type and added
the FacesContex argument, so its really a new method, I think that
it is useless to mark it as deprecated.. also because it actually does
a thin wrapping for the _ComponentUtils method, as it extracts the
Hi Cagatay!
There are two method getJsFunction() and getParams() that must be
implemented by extended validators so which design seem more convenient?
* Using an IClientSideValidator which will be implemented by extended
validators marking them capable of doing validation at client side.
or
Hi Cagatay!
One more discussion topic, the client validation is turned on/off via
a context parameter, org.apache.myfaces.ENABLE_CLIENT_VALIDATION,
Do you think validators should override this global setting via an
attribute like client?
client=true|false - yes, I think this will be a nice
Hi!
For one example, what if I download
a third-party validator, and want to add client-side validation
support to it?
So, +1 for an interface.
I dont think this is the best use-case as you still have to change the
original validator code (implement the interface). To achieve this
without the
Hi!
Also, recognize that client-side validation is only half of the
picture; you
also need client-side converters.
Lets do this once needed. In fact, I hope Trinidad become a more
integral part of MyFaces so that we can use Tomahawk and Trinidad and
... together
Hi Cagatay!
By the way, these validators run only at onsubmit event of the form.
I've also implemented simple onkeypress validation that allows only
integers to be entered when there is an integeronly converter by
disabling letters, or max-min length validation when there is a length
Hi Martin!
Well, the thing is that a merge is way off on the timeline.
And Cagatay has something right now, why not take it in?
No, I didnt meant to NOT take Cagatys work now. In fact I'd love to see
it imported soon. Its just the converter stuff I was thinking about.
But now I also think we
TNT would be cooler :)
but Nobago sounds silly :)
*LOL*
---
Mario
But now I also think we should put our hands on the converter stuff,
just, as far as I can see, in Trinidad they implemented a real client
validator with getAsObject and getAsString - to say the truth, I dont
sorry, I meant a real client converter
Hi Adam!
Hmmm ok, I understand the chained validator thing.
So, even if we go the client side converter way, I would like to have a
way to define the allowed characters for the input field.
Maybe by adding a method like
InputMask getInputMask()
to the ClientConverter interface. This return
Hi Matthias!
I introduced three helper methods to shared's HtmlRenderer
(renderId(), getClientId(), shouldRender()). These methods are taken
CoreRenderer (Apache Trinidad Podling).
Great! Though, why will a renderer override the resulting clientId?
I figured out, that some Renderer's extend
Hi Cagatay!
A hot discussion we are having here,
Yes, this is great :-)
I think there is no new API here. Only thing needed is just a single
interface. As I mentioned before most of the validators do not need
any conversion before validating the input at all.
This is not necessarily true.
Hi!
Maybe I can have a look at the ClientConverter stuff?
Sure, that would be great Mario.
Here is a proposal for the client converter stuff.
http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/myfaces/tomahawk/trunk/sandbox/core/src/main/java/org/apache/myfaces/custom/common/converter/
Once we approved
Hi Martin!
moving s:form has nothing to do with RI compatibility - we remain as
compatible as before.
Does this mean we ARE compatible with RI? We behave the same way as
JSF-RI with our form/command* stuff?
So if one uses tomahawk with JSF-RI and OUR t:form then it will work?
Or do you mean
Hi!
Hi Martin!
moving s:form has nothing to do with RI compatibility - we remain as
compatible as before.
Does this mean we ARE compatible with RI? We behave the same way as
JSF-RI with our form/command* stuff?
So if one uses tomahawk with JSF-RI and OUR t:form then it will work?
Hi!
I noticed that there are only some tests for components in Tomahawk.
Wouldn't it be great to have a test-case as a requirement for
promoting a component ?
Sure, if we can decide what reasonable test cases are.
I would like to see more test-cases too, but not by using mock tests. I
think
Hi Cagatay!
Since not the form component itself but mainly the renderer is going
to be extended and refer to the original form renderer after doing
some script rendering, I guess t:form should work with RI as well.
The sandbox form renderer do not use delegation, but uses inheritance.
This
Hi Cagatay!
Since not the form component itself but mainly the renderer is going
to be extended and refer to the original form renderer after doing
some script rendering, I guess t:form should work with RI as well.
After a short break where I ride my bicycle I'll come up with a
different sight
Hi Martin!
I took the
time to do our homework and made tomahawk and the RI fully compatible
in all link/button/form related issues. I also added an example -
form.jsf in the sandbox root which demonstrates this.
Congratulations Martin - you tha man :-D
Now, who said we didn't take
Hi Cagatay!
It would absolutely be excellent if h:form of myfaces is allowed to
render the client validation scripts
No, this is no option, then a JSF-RI user has no chance at all to get
our stuff running.
then there is no need for a t:fom or any additinal tag.
Now, that Martin made MyFaces
Hi Matthias!
Anybody knowing about a delay to some svn-related mail-systems at
apache`?
I figured out a delay for myfaces and trinidad... anybody noticed
something similar on struts or heard something on infra@ list ?
Did you experienced it yesterday?
Then the delay might result from approx
Hi!
I am running into this error message on popup in an SSL environment
issue with MyFaces 1.1.3. Is there a solution I can implement in my
1.1.3 environment to address this concern? The project I'm working on
has called for a code freeze on the framework jars we're using, and so
we're stuck
Hi Matthias!
But... why has the javax.mail 1.4 jar a dependency to activation 1.0.3 ?
Its simply a requirement http://java.sun.com/products/javamail/
I already tried to use it without activation bad that wont work.
As far as I remember they use it to instanciate the various provider
(pop, imap,
Hi Jason!
As it has been a few days since the last email I sent, I figured that
I would drop you a quick note to remind you about my question below.
I already answered your mail :-).
Please see:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/myfaces-dev/200607.mbox/[EMAIL
PROTECTED]
Ciao,
Mario
Hi!
Its a pleasure being here! Thanks!
Mario, please subscribe to the pmc list and update your status on the
site.
I'll do right after my vacation - The internet connection here is a pain ;-)
Ciao,
Mario
Hi!
h:panelGroup rendered=#{pageBean.isLoggedIn}
h:panelGroup rendered=#{securityBean.isManager or
securityBean.isAdmin}
I know, that this will work, though, it looks like a hack (one I often
used ;-) ).
Having a simple secure tag will also reflect what the designer/developer
wanted to do -
Hi Mike!
I hadn't noticed this before -- You added it while I was on vacation.
Sneaky. :-) And after you'd already +1'd my implementation in the
currencyConverter - BigDecimal storage thread.
Hmmm, yes, sorry.
If I remember correctly, I had a bad need for this and thought no one
else already
Hi Mike!
Sounds good. I'm probably not going to get to it for another couple
of weeks in any case.
Ok, so maybe I manage to do it. I'll start work on tomahawk-610 before
I start so that you know I am working on it.
Ciao,
Mario
Hi Matthias!
The sort of offline development. Sending offline a patch to a
committer for letting him commit the stuff is to me a -1. Looks like a
bypass.
Do you propose to use jira as mini-incubator?
I am not sure this is what it is meant for.
In this case it was committed to the sandbox, no?
Hi all!
This is a initial commit so it is not yet well tested and there are
still a lot of
things to do, but if anyone wants to start playing around with it and
making
suggestions for improvements I would be thankful for some feedback.
JFYI - I've started to try to use it in our application,
Hi Martin!
Wait a minute - will this work if the script itself is embedded in a
panelGrid?
I think so also dataTable you know with indexed clientId ...
thats the plan, bad?
Ciao,
Mario
Hi!
Maybe I'm lost off track here - but panelGrid has render-Children set
to true, so it will render the children itself, and the content in the
script tag might show up somewhere totally different, out of sync with
the other components?
The f:verbatim tag works too within an panelGrid, no?
Hi!
Yeah, right. I wouldn't mind a separate module either - it's not too
big an overhead.
Not a big overhead?
Yet another directory in our current thingy, yet another entry in our
pom.xml and maybe another couple of poms for the module itself. Not to
speak about the release process and testing
Ok, Mike told me that I was wrong to move this discussion to pmc@ and I
should repost it at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Now, I dont want to rewarm this discussion, but when I reread my own
post I think there are still valid points within.
So - here we go:
On 8/22/06, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED
Hi!
*) Any reason why the HtmlFocusRenderer imports dojo?
DojoUtils.addMainInclude(facesContext, uiComponent,
javascriptLocation, new DojoConfig());
DojoUtils.addRequire(facesContext, uiComponent, dojo.event.*);
The only thing it do afterwards is something like
Hi Ben!
First, my apologies for the premature WIKI entry concerning the Conversation
Tag. I'll be more discerning about my entries in the future.
Oh - that was no problem. I just didnt know how to reach you so I
thought I try through the wiki page itself.
:-)
I use the conversationTag with
Hi!
Today I saw a new component coming in called DojoDialog and I thought:
Is it really required - or the best idea - to prefix the dojo
components with dojo?
What if we change the technique used within an dojo component to
something else (say superWebFlex - just a synonym), sure, one solution
Hi Gerald!
I just accepted the stuff from Thomas.
You know, I dont wanted to point to a special person, just a general
discussion. Sorry, that it was your committed component I used as sample ;-)
So, let`s change the name to dynamicDialog?
If it sufficiently describes it, sure, though, it was
Hi!
+1 on modal dialog
As I said, my dynamic was just a wild guess, if the dialog is meant to
be modal, then I am +1 on modal too.
Ciao,
Mario
Hi Mike!
What about the possiblity of a per-request override for the behavior?
Sure, one can do this by implementing its own e.g
PerRequestRedirectTrackerPolicy which itself holds the ThreadLocal and
delegates to the real policy then.
I am not sure if we should provide every possible Policy, but
Hi!
Mike, I am with you, though, (another question about this topic) do you
know, do we have a wiki page which defines which codestyle we have to use?
Currently, we really have a mixture, which isnt good too.
Also I propose to create a codestyle file for at least IDEA and Eclipse
- as far as I
Hi Martin!
Oh my, I'm going under cover!
This has started the single longest discussion on the mailing-list the
last time ;)
I hoped you already discussed it :-), and regarding to
http://wiki.apache.org/myfaces/MyFaces_Developer_Notes this is the case.
The decision was to use Suns Java Code
Hey!
I would also like to thank Matthias, who also put a fair amount of time
into getting this release out of the door.
I don't normally like to waste bandwidth thanking people, but Sean and
Wendy put in a tremendous amount of work getting 1.1.4 out the door
over the course of several months.
Hi Martin!
It would be nice to have a script (be it Ant, be it
a Maven plugin or whatever) which changes the shared_tomahawk / _impl
imports back to shared while developing.
Or being able to configure maven in a way that it will NOT refactor the
sources, instead it should simply create a shared
Hey.
Or being able to configure maven in a way that it will NOT refactor the
sources, instead it should simply create a shared and shared-source jar.
said that, wouldn't it be possible to revert the shared_ stuff in svn at
all? And refactor tomahawk and impl itself only for the release
Hi!
What do you think about a new component which aims to do whats described
here [1]
It should operate in three modes:
1) as a child of an input* component (direct child)
In this mode submitOnEnter will add a onkeypress handler to the input
component and fires the button/link pointed to with
Hi Bruno!
and would something like submitOnKeyPress (including enter) be more
general and with broader possibilities?
Do you think about something which allows to configure which keyPress
triggers the submit?
How can such a configuration look like?
1) triggerKeys
s:submitOnKeyPress
Hi Matze!
Author: matzew
Date: Tue Oct 10 10:15:40 2006
New Revision: 454834
URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revrev=454834
Log:
renamed German restaurants(lokale)... to locale
Are you drunken again - You renamed all our restaurants ?! ;-) :-D
---
Mario
Hi!
As some of you might know I've developed Faces Freeway [1].
Well, I don't want to say that this project failed, but - beside - its
hard to maintain a documentation, it is also hard to provide a nice
looking, always working fully fledged simple way to the persistence
framework e.g. hibernate.
Hi!
Well, I don't want to say that this project failed
Forgot to mention: We already use it in our application.
---
Mario
Hi Martin!
So Faces
Freeway is officially declared dead? What a pity...
Na, I don't think so. As I said, we use it and my boss is happy with it
as it allows him to do some simple table-editing-data pages.
But I often want to use just the GUI Builder without any automatic
persistence in the
Hi!
So Faces
Freeway is officially declared dead? What a pity...
Na, I don't think so.
The name of the component could also be: freewayGui
Then we can reuse the logo we already have.
Ciao,
Mario
I'm not sure about the name for the component - you want to reuse the
logo for the component?
Just an idea. We don't need to.
I think it should only express what the
component is about, not what it's for...
Ok, so what about: dynaForm
In fact, thats the class name of the component already.
Hi!
I've finished setting up the sandbox15 stuff.
We now have working pom.xml things in there so that anyone who would
like to check out the stuff is able to do a simple mvn install in
there, though, I didn't add it to our main pom.xml file in tomahawk as
then it is a requirement to use Java 5.0
Hi Wendy!
I didn't add it to our main pom.xml file in tomahawk as
then it is a requirement to use Java 5.0 for the whole build, which
shouldn't be, should it?
Profiles can be activated by JDK version. For example, from the Shale
Apps pom:
Ah yes, great idea!
Works like a charm.
Now I
Hi Arash!
hey Mario, these gui builder components are great I think they may
gain lots of attention
is there any way I can read more about them?
Nope, there is only the source and a simple example yet.
If you checkout myfaces using the url [1] you'll get the sandbox15
module of tomahawk too.
Hi Arash!
sorry for being impatient
hehe :-)
I had an argument with a rubby developer about how java can be as easy
as ruby and I saw your component at same day!
I find it very useful for that argument.
Let's see how far we can go. For now I removed the persistence stuff,
the master plan is
Hi!
Someone willing to extend our HtmlInputCalendar to allow to input a time?
Additional attributes like:
inputTime=true|false
timePrecision=hours|minutes|seconds
would be great!
timePrecision will define the pattern:
hours: HH
minutes: HH:MM
seconds: HH:MM:SS
The missing part should be
Hi!
[INFO] Building jar:
/export/home/mrmaven/myfaces-nightly/tomahawk/sandbox15/core/target/tomahawk-sandbox15-1.1.5-SNAPSHOT-javadoc.jar
[INFO] Preparing taglib:taglibdocjar
[INFO] [taglib:taglibdoc]
[INFO]
Hi!
Anyone has an idea why this is failing on continuum?
[INFO] Building jar:
/export/home/mrmaven/myfaces-nightly/tomahawk/sandbox15/core/target/tomahawk-sandbox15-1.1.5-SNAPSHOT-javadoc.jar
[INFO] Preparing taglib:taglibdocjar
[INFO] [taglib:taglibdoc]
[INFO]
Hi Martin!
We will move this code into the view-handler. That's one of my tasks
that I still not found the time for.
I still don't get why this dummyForm stuff is that important, however,
moving it to the view-handler wont work with a pre JSF 1.2, will it?
Ciao,
Mario
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