[orchestra] rename scope flash to access

2008-01-29 Thread Simon Kitching
Hi All, Currently in orchestra there are two types of conversation scope: manual and flash. With manual, a conversation must be explicitly ended via either a call to the Orchestra API, or use of a jsf tag. With flash, the conversation is automatically ended when a request cycle ends and no

Re: [orchestra] rename scope flash to access

2008-01-29 Thread Simon Kitching
Aargh.. top posting! Simon Regards, I will try to find some time this weekend. Yes, we would like to get a new release out in the next couple of weeks. Hi Matthias, Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: That sounds very good. Do you guys plan to release the bits soon as

Re: [orchestra] rename scope flash to access

2008-01-29 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi Simon! Are there any objections? Sounds good! Ciao, Mario

Re: [orchestra] rename scope flash to access

2008-01-29 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
That sounds very good. Do you guys plan to release the bits soon as well ? -M On Jan 29, 2008 9:03 AM, Mario Ivankovits [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Simon! Are there any objections? Sounds good! Ciao, Mario -- Matthias Wessendorf further stuff: blog:

Re: [orchestra] rename scope flash to access

2008-01-29 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Yes, we would like to get a new release out in the next couple of weeks. nice Hi Matthias, bonjourno Matthias Wessendorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: That sounds very good. Do you guys plan to release the bits soon as well ? -M On Jan 29, 2008 9:03 AM, Mario Ivankovits

Re: [orchestra] rename scope flash to access

2008-01-29 Thread Manfred Geiler
yes, good idea +1 I like the name access scope and also experienced people who use the term flash scope for t:saveState usage. --Manfred On Jan 29, 2008 8:59 AM, Simon Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All, Currently in orchestra there are two types of conversation scope: manual and

Re: [orchestra] rename scope flash to access

2008-01-29 Thread Martin Marinschek
will there be a flash scope in Orchestra as well (as an option to using t:saveState)? will Trinidad ever be fixed to work with a flash-scope ;) ? regards, Martin On Jan 29, 2008 12:25 PM, Manfred Geiler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes, good idea +1 I like the name access scope and also

Re: [orchestra] rename scope flash to access

2008-01-29 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
then maybe it should be named page-scope :-) will Trinidad ever be fixed to work with a flash-scope ;) ? I was referring to the fact that Trinidad does not work with t:saveState, due to the optimized state-saving. I wonder if this can/should be fixed at some point of time. ah,

Re: [orchestra] rename scope flash to access

2008-01-29 Thread Martin Marinschek
Hi Matthias, from the commits looks like flash will be the alias for access then maybe it should be named page-scope will Trinidad ever be fixed to work with a flash-scope ;) ? I was referring to the fact that Trinidad does not work with t:saveState, due to the optimized state-saving. I

Re: [orchestra] rename scope flash to access

2008-01-29 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On Jan 29, 2008 1:22 PM, Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: will there be a flash scope in Orchestra as well (as an option to using t:saveState)? from the commits looks like flash will be the alias for access will Trinidad ever be fixed to work with a flash-scope ;) ? I moved all my

Re: [orchestra] rename scope flash to access

2008-01-29 Thread Manfred Geiler
://www.JSFCentral.com - JavaServer Faces FAQ, news, and info -Original Message- From: Simon Kitching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2008 3:00 AM To: dev@myfaces.apache.org Subject: [orchestra] rename scope flash to access Hi All, Currently in orchestra

RE: [orchestra] rename scope flash to access

2008-01-29 Thread Kito D. Mann
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Re: [orchestra] rename scope flash to access

2008-01-29 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi! Hmmm... I agree that flash can be misleading, but access doesn't seem very descriptive to me. I think page or view might be more appropriate. As it is currently in Orchestra, the fomer flash-scope is exactly an access-scope. As long as the bean is accessed it stay alive, regardles of