[tomahawk] why bother with 1.2?

2008-01-30 Thread Simon Kitching
Hi, I see Leonard is currently doing a lot of work on something called tomahawk 1.2, which surprised me a little. I have checked the mail archives, and see some discussions happening around june 2007 regarding having a version of tomahawk specifically for JSF1.2. But since then, we have

Re: [tomahawk] why bother with 1.2?

2008-01-30 Thread Martin Marinschek
I think that Leonardo is working on generating the components classes tlds, facelet-taglibs with the maven-faces-plugin - I'm pretty sure this makes sense. As this will then mean there is a switch to either use JSF1.2 or 1.1 in the generation (hopefully this will work) both 1.1.7 and a 1.2 based

Re: [tomahawk] why bother with 1.2?

2008-01-30 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Hi, On Jan 30, 2008 9:53 AM, Simon Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I see Leonard is currently doing a lot of work on something called tomahawk 1.2, which surprised me a little. I have checked the mail archives, and see some discussions happening around june 2007 regarding having a

Re: [tomahawk] why bother with 1.2?

2008-01-30 Thread Cagatay Civici
Hi, As being the guy who has created the tomahawk 1.2 branch and spent a lot of time with it, upgrading to 1.2 is not an easy task because as Simon mentioned the code is old and crusty. I agree that non rendering stuff should be moved to commons, I've some candidates on my own from sandbox and

Re: [tomahawk] why bother with 1.2?

2008-01-30 Thread Simon Kitching
If tomahawk is going to be split into pieces, then it really does not make sense to completely change the build approach. It currently works, so let's just stay with what is already there. Regards, Simon Martin Marinschek [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I think that Leonardo is working on

Re: [tomahawk] why bother with 1.2?

2008-01-30 Thread Martin Marinschek
For me, it would be important that this new build-system could generate 1.1.7 and 1.2 - Leonardo, would this be possible? regards, Martin On 1/30/08, Simon Kitching [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Well, the first question to ask is: what do we want to release in the near future? I think the

Re: [tomahawk] why bother with 1.2?

2008-01-30 Thread Bruno Aranda
I think if something simplifies the maintenance of tomahawk I welcome it. Moving stuff to commons and all that is an early idea and I have not read specific plans about how we could do that, who could do that, so I guess it will take a while to go. In the meanwhile, if we can just remove some of

Re: [tomahawk] why bother with 1.2?

2008-01-30 Thread Simon Kitching
Hi, Well, the first question to ask is: what do we want to release in the near future? I think the next Tomahawk release should be 1.1.7, containing bugfixes and a few promotions from sandbox. It should not contain radical refactoring of the build process. In the longer term, I believe we

Re: [tomahawk] why bother with 1.2?

2008-01-30 Thread Simon Kitching
Simplify??? This code generation stuff does make code more *consistent* between the various bits (taglib, faces-config, java) but definitely does not make it simpler to work with. IMO, it introduces a whole new set of concepts that will make it harder for new developers to get into this code.

Re: [tomahawk] why bother with 1.2?

2008-01-30 Thread Mario Ivankovits
Hi! This code generation stuff does make code more *consistent* between the various bits (taglib, faces-config, java) but definitely does not make it simpler to work with. IMO, it introduces a whole new set of concepts that will make it harder for new developers to get into this code. I

Re: [tomahawk] why bother with 1.2?

2008-01-30 Thread Simon Kitching
Paul Spencer [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I am very invested in Tomahawk. I agree we need to simplify things, but we MUST maintain Tomahawk. If we do not, then who will use ANY of the MyFaces component libraries if we let libraries die. Absolutely nobody is suggesting that Tomahawk

Re: [tomahawk] why bother with 1.2?

2008-01-30 Thread Paul Spencer
I am very invested in Tomahawk. I agree we need to simplify things, but we MUST maintain Tomahawk. If we do not, then who will use ANY of the MyFaces component libraries if we let libraries die. Paul Spencer Martin Marinschek wrote: Simon, is your conclusion then that Tomahawk should

Re: [tomahawk] why bother with 1.2?

2008-01-30 Thread Andrew Robinson
My thoughts: 1. Release 1.1.7 with moving some of the non-render components from sandbox (I think the PPR would be better in a new library personally) 2. (Rest are post 1.1.7) move any components that work with any render kit, and are graphical into a new project (or make this

Re: [tomahawk] why bother with 1.2?

2008-01-30 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On Jan 30, 2008 7:16 PM, Leonardo Uribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we could add a runtime dependency to commons and the t:validateEmail tag points to the TAG-CLASS from commons (no double code ) Yes, This is my intention. For avoid generation on tomahawk I use

Re: [tomahawk] why bother with 1.2?

2008-01-30 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
On Jan 30, 2008 7:18 PM, Leonardo Uribe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: looks like Tobago and Tomahawk might be interested in sharing a dojo-based common jar ? We can use the same as with validators: component-class-excludedtrue/component-class-excluded tag-class-excludedtrue/tag-class-excluded