Re: [DISCUSS] Shall NetBeans improve Java/JDK? With Frgaal?

2022-10-07 Thread Ernie Rael
On 10/7/22 3:41 PM, Ernie Rael wrote: BTW, for command line use, I have an alias, use it like javac frgaal is aliased to `mvn-repo/org/frgaal/compiler/19.0.0/compiler-19.0.0.jar' Uhh, that would be aliased to `java -jar mvn-repo/org/frgaal/compiler/19.0.0/compiler-19.0.0.jar'

Re: [DISCUSS] Shall NetBeans improve Java/JDK? With Frgaal?

2022-10-07 Thread Ernie Rael
This is about "target < source"; talk about changing the JDK version obfuscates the point. Changing JDK version is not available to many (most?) (just guessing). The only technical points against (that have registered with me, and not saying that I fully agree with them, and there may be more)

Where to put findDialogParent? a static method

2022-10-07 Thread Ernie Rael
For the following (important in a multi screen setup, should read "don't use null")    Dialog parent main window instead of null https://github.com/apache/netbeans/pull/4739 I want to move a method, private FileChooserBuilder.findDialogParent(), to a public spot. My first thought was DialogDis

Re: Maven "Graph" functionality

2022-10-07 Thread Eric Bresie
This is on my https://github.com/ebresie/python4nb project. Looking in Navigator under the Dependencies, (slightly ahead of master on the above) it shows about 60 dependencies. Running mvn dependency:tree, I get this pretty quickly so not sure if the bottle next is further transient dependencies

Re: [DISCUSS] Shall NetBeans improve Java/JDK? With Frgaal?

2022-10-07 Thread Matthias Bläsing
Hi, I think if a new maven/gradle/ant project is created, it should use mainline technology, without to much fuzz. I estimate, that the OpenJDK javac has a high enough bus-factor, that it should be save, even if one or even multiple of the big players (Oracle, Red Hat, Azul, Amazon, Microsoft) dec

Re: [DISCUSS] Shall NetBeans improve Java/JDK? With Frgaal?

2022-10-07 Thread ehsavoie
Well, being stuck on Java 11 for long years i 'd love the possibility to enjoy new language features. A very noob question: why would I need frgaal to 'replace' javac since I would assume that the IDE JVM would be the higher language level JVM ? Is there some case when NetBeans compile code withou

Re: Maven "Graph" functionality

2022-10-07 Thread Svata Dedic
What was the project's size (# of dependency closure) ? -S. On 07. 10. 22 15:46, Eric Bresie wrote: OkayI was trying again and wanted to bring it up again. When opening pom.xml, clicking the Graph button, it seems to get stuck while "Loading and constructing the graph". It indicates it ma

Re: Maven "Graph" functionality

2022-10-07 Thread Eric Bresie
OkayI was trying again and wanted to bring it up again. When opening pom.xml, clicking the Graph button, it seems to get stuck while "Loading and constructing the graph". It indicates it may take a while, but I'm just wondering why this takes so long. Is this just an old feature that hasn't b

Re: [DISCUSS] Shall NetBeans improve Java/JDK? With Frgaal?

2022-10-07 Thread Eric Bresie
Why can’t Frgaal just be a plug-in like nb-javac us to be or other languages like Kotlin or Python? Is there some inherent Netbeans infrastructure code functionality requiring change for this? If the suggestion is to integrate it with Netbeans IDE itself then I can see the hesitation. But then

Re: [DISCUSS] Shall NetBeans improve Java/JDK? With Frgaal?

2022-10-07 Thread Michael Bien
On 07.10.22 09:30, Neil C Smith wrote: On Fri, 7 Oct 2022, 04:35 Michael Bien, wrote: I mean the apache process is fairly democratic. A negative vote only conveys exactly that: a negative vote. This is no veto. Well, any -1 to a code change is a veto - https://www.apache.org/foundation/votin

Re: [DISCUSS] Shall NetBeans improve Java/JDK? With Frgaal?

2022-10-07 Thread Neil C Smith
On Fri, 7 Oct 2022, 04:35 Michael Bien, wrote: > I mean the apache process is fairly democratic. A negative vote only > conveys exactly that: a negative vote. This is no veto. > Well, any -1 to a code change is a veto - https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html#votes-on-code-modification So