Well, being stuck on Java 11 for long years i 'd love the possibility to enjoy new language features. A very noob question: why would I need frgaal to 'replace' javac since I would assume that the IDE JVM would be the higher language level JVM ? Is there some case when NetBeans compile code without using the underlying build system ?
Emmanuel PS I loved the beard, I didn't recognize you at first glance PPS: I love frgaal idea đ On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 2:12 PM Eric Bresie <[email protected]> wrote: > Why canât Frgaal just be a plug-in like nb-javac us to be or other > languages like Kotlin or Python? > > Is there some inherent Netbeans infrastructure code functionality > requiring change for this? If the suggestion is to integrate it with > Netbeans IDE itself then I can see the hesitation. > > But then again, in many language case, each has the ability to provide > alternative compilers (i.e. C/C++ for gnu, llvm, etc), or different > distributors of open JDKs, so if this is say frgaal is an alternative > compiler for open JDK thatâs slightly different case then a single language. > > Maybe separate question, is there or should there be a Netbeans API to > have a standardized way of adding and managing Language platforms? > > Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef> > ________________________________ > From: John Mc <[email protected]> > Sent: Friday, October 7, 2022 1:31 AM > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Cc: Ernie Rael <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Shall NetBeans improve Java/JDK? With Frgaal? > > Sorry, to chime in here, I don't do much Java Development anymore, so not > really clued in on the comings and goings of the Language too much :( > however I do have to spend some hours every few weeks > maintaining/supporting a Java 6 project(the client has no intention of > paying for an JDK upgrade, the app is 20+ years old and is being replaced > in a few years anyways), so this Frgaal peaked my interest - until I > spotted that it only supports 1.8+. > > I tried googling Frgaal, and I only found 2 hits: > > - http://frgaal.org > - http://wiki.apidesign.org/wiki/Frgaal > > Even on twitter searches for Frgaal, don't show much mentions outside of a > few key people... I admit, my searches are limited and don't reflect usage > of Frgaal, but even from those searches, Frgaal doesn't appear to be > marketed very well in the Java ecosystem. It looks like Frgaal is a pet > project, an interesting one, but one that's still trying to find a space in > the JDK ecosystem. > > So I would question, why at this stage in Frgaal life - what benefit will > it bring to NetBeans if we package support for it? I can't see it bringing > any users to our IDE, so why would we put it directly into NetBeans... Can > support for Frgaal be added to the IDE via a plugin? If so, we should > recommend the authors of Frgaal to use this route, as a way of getting IDE > support. If I remember correctly, they don't have to distribute it solely > through our potentially dead plugin portal, they could distribute it > themselves right? > > If and when Frgaal gains traction, then we can consider adding it to > NetBeans as a first class citizen, but until it has traction why bother, > when it won't bring us anything but code we might need to remove later on > if the author loses interest in Frgaal? > > Regards > > John > > On Fri, 7 Oct 2022 at 04:35, Michael Bien <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On 06.10.22 19:01, Ernie Rael wrote: > > > > > > -1 to DISCUSSION? Wow. That's pretty draconian. > > > > > I mean the apache process is fairly democratic. A negative vote only > > conveys exactly that: a negative vote. This is no veto. > > > > This is also not a -1 to the discussion. Keep discussing :) > > > > Also please keep in mind that the context of this discussion is a second > > mail thread and a PR. This mail was a summary of my opinion on that > > topic since nobody likes to read long mails (the bullet point version > > already got too long). > > > > best regards, > > > > michael > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] > > For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected] > > > > For further information about the NetBeans mailing lists, visit: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NETBEANS/Mailing+lists > > > > > > > > >
