gmane (3rd? 4th? time around)

2017-11-21 Thread thufir
Hello, I just don't recall.  Did anyone (again, I would expect only the list admin to know): 1.group names and the new addresses, 2. information about whether resubscription is required I recall Geertjan sending some of that to gmane, but, to my recollection, not all.  Typically, to re-i

Re: gmane (3rd? 4th? time around)

2017-11-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
You were in the cc of the e-mail I sent to gmane. Thanks, Gj On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 9:58 AM, thufir wrote: > Hello, > > > I just don't recall. Did anyone (again, I would expect only the list > admin to know): > > > 1.group names and the new addresses, > > 2. information about whether resubsc

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Alpha (incubating) -- 2nd attempt

2017-11-21 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > ...Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 Alpha (incubating)... +1 on the release of this archive: SHA1(incubating-netbeans-platform-9.0-alpha-source.zip)= 1189b293cecfd5236cf18df2c2bd0f6b414dab75 which is found under https:

[RESULT][VOTE] Release of Apache NetBeans 9.0 Alpha (incubating) [rc2]

2017-11-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, After being opened for over more than 72 hours, the vote for releasing incubating-netbeans-platform-9.0-alpha [rc2] passed with 15 binding +1s (which includes two Apache NetBeans mentors), 8 non-binding +1s and no 0 or -1. The link to vote thread is *https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Alpha (incubating) -- 2nd attempt

2017-11-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Many thanks Bertrand. The vote result thread is here (just as I finished working on it, your +1 arrived, great timing!): https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/278b3bd85eaeec8718dee95f9b2b2c2c7656544fb5b504f6b8e2632c@%3Cdev.netbeans.apache.org%3E Thanks, Gj On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Bert

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release of Apache NetBeans 9.0 Alpha (incubating) [rc2]

2017-11-21 Thread Ate Douma
On 21 Nov 2017 10:16, "Geertjan Wielenga" wrote: Hi all, After being opened for over more than 72 hours, the vote for releasing incubating-netbeans-platform-9.0-alpha [rc2] passed with 15 binding +1s (which includes two Apache NetBeans mentors), 8 non-binding +1s and no 0 or -1. The link to vot

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] Release of Apache NetBeans 9.0 Alpha (incubating) [rc2]

2017-11-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Right, thanks for that info as well -- and I really hope I got everything correct in the IPMC vote thread, at least that nothing I did was bad enough to result in -1s. Gj On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 1:20 PM, Ate Douma wrote: > On 21 Nov 2017 10:16, "Geertjan Wielenga" com> > wrote: > > Hi all, > >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache NetBeans 9.0 Alpha (incubating) -- 2nd attempt

2017-11-21 Thread Jan Lahoda
On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 10:12 AM, Bertrand Delacretaz < bdelacre...@apache.org> wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 11:01 PM, Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > ...Please vote on releasing Apache NetBeans 9.0 Alpha (incubating)... > > +1 on the release of this archive: > > SHA1(incubating-netbea

[GitHub] jlahoda opened a new pull request #285: Fixing some problems reported by verify-libs-and-licenses

2017-11-21 Thread GitBox
jlahoda opened a new pull request #285: Fixing some problems reported by verify-libs-and-licenses URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/285 Most of the changes are intended to be editorial changes (renaming files to adhere to conventions, normalizing texts, normalizing hea

IDE release

2017-11-21 Thread Jan Lahoda
Hi, I assume we should work on getting the code into a state where we could release a (beta) of (Java) IDE. When the platform/alpha is released, I'll change the release job: https://builds.apache.org/view/Incubator%20Projects/job/incubator-netbeans-release/ to build the IDE (I'll let it build pla

Re: IDE release

2017-11-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
A related question: maybe we should move to the “ide” cluster first and forget about anything language-specific, including Java, until we have released the generic non-language specific IDE features? Or, as a counter argument, would that not be significant enough to justify its own process? >From

RE: IDE release

2017-11-21 Thread Dmitry Avtonomov
That is a very good idea, Gj! From: Geertjan Wielenga Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2017 12:37 To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: IDE release A related question: maybe we should move to the “ide” cluster first and forget about anything language-specific, including Java, until we hav

Re: IDE release

2017-11-21 Thread John McDonnell
>From a personal standpoint, I'd like to see a Java IDE as soon as possible. I know there's still a lot of work to get there, but to release a generic IDE, after a Platform release means we'll have done 2 releases (Ignoring the HTML releases that are happening) that still isn't at the state that m

Re: IDE release

2017-11-21 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Very valid points. Very hard to argue against this perspective. Though note that focusing on a neutral-IDE first doesn’t necessarily mean slowing the process down. Just a different approach to the same end and whether it would end up taking longer or not is not predetermined. Gj On Tue, 21 Nov 2

Re: IDE release

2017-11-21 Thread John McDonnell
Is there a way that we could look at doing both? i.e. In parallel do the generic IDE and look at how we do the Plugin Manager/Portal. Once those are completed we could branch off the Generic Modules/Plugin Manager and then Release this branch. >From there, we could work to get the Java and othe

Re: IDE release

2017-11-21 Thread Sven Reimers
Hi all, I would assume it should be possible to build both - the JavaIDE and a generic IDE at the same time. If we can get the GenericStuff working faster than the JavaIDE - we could decide to release that first. Sven On Tue, Nov 21, 2017 at 10:18 PM, John McDonnell wrote: > Is there a way th

Hibernate and Apache NetBeans

2017-11-21 Thread Sven Reimers
Hi all, Jan just asked about a couple of problematic external libraries - one of them is hibernate. Looking at the rules I think we cannot distribute modules relying on Hibernate with Apache NetBeans. So I did a quick dive and found a major problem. At the moment there is a special support modul

[GitHub] geertjanw closed pull request #284: Updating HTML/Java libraries to just released version 1.5.1

2017-11-21 Thread GitBox
geertjanw closed pull request #284: Updating HTML/Java libraries to just released version 1.5.1 URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/284 This is a PR merged from a forked repository. As GitHub hides the original diff on merge, it is displayed below for the sake of proven

[GitHub] geertjanw commented on issue #284: Updating HTML/Java libraries to just released version 1.5.1

2017-11-21 Thread GitBox
geertjanw commented on issue #284: Updating HTML/Java libraries to just released version 1.5.1 URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/284#issuecomment-346171770 Makes sense and merging. This is an automated m

Re: Hibernate and Apache NetBeans

2017-11-21 Thread Jan Lahoda
Hi Sven, Thanks for looking at this. For completeness, I think (but IANAL) we could have code here that depends on Hibernate (or other GPL libraries), but it a) needs to be an optional component; b) we cannot distribute the GPL library from Apache: https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#option

Re: Hibernate and Apache NetBeans

2017-11-21 Thread John McDonnell
Hi, I like the idea of an external GitHub that we can use to quickly fire in some of the troublesome modules into to get around the license issues like Camel did, and it seems there's already a GitHub Organisation lying there in wait for modules ;) Just did a quick search for usages of "hibernate

[GitHub] rtaneja1 opened a new pull request #286: changed back line endings to LF

2017-11-21 Thread GitBox
rtaneja1 opened a new pull request #286: changed back line endings to LF URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/286 Corrected line endings to Linux (LF) from Windows (CRLF) (introduced in PR #107). This is an

[GitHub] junichi11 commented on issue #286: changed back line endings to LF

2017-11-21 Thread GitBox
junichi11 commented on issue #286: changed back line endings to LF URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/286#issuecomment-346257445 @rtaneja1 PR #264 already has this changes. So this PR can be closed. I'll merge #264 later. ---

[GitHub] rtaneja1 closed pull request #286: changed back line endings to LF

2017-11-21 Thread GitBox
rtaneja1 closed pull request #286: changed back line endings to LF URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/286 This is a PR merged from a forked repository. As GitHub hides the original diff on merge, it is displayed below for the sake of provenance: As this is a foreign pu

[GitHub] rtaneja1 commented on issue #286: changed back line endings to LF

2017-11-21 Thread GitBox
rtaneja1 commented on issue #286: changed back line endings to LF URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/286#issuecomment-346263784 Closing as change already part of PR #264. This is an automated message from