Re: [DISCUSS] Merging back netcat@ into the dev@ mailing list

2018-06-26 Thread Antonio
On 26/06/18 13:47, Emilian Bold wrote: I think this further proves it's a bad idea to have multiple mailing lists. We aren't even capable of having a discussion involving the whole community! Good point! [...] But the Apache move is not a small thing and NetCAT should also adapt. If any

Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed Release ProcessWAS: Merging back netcat@ into the dev@ mailing list

2018-06-26 Thread Chuck Davis
One of the really nice features of NB has been the fact that you can run dozens of versions installed in parallel (I usually only have not more than four). I grew accustomed to living on the nightly builds and, fortunately, if one doesn't work you run "uninstall" and wait a couple of days and try

Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed Release ProcessWAS: Merging back netcat@ into the dev@ mailing list

2018-06-26 Thread Sven Reimers
Hi all, I like the overall concept - just some small things. 1. Having people wait for critical bugfixes for 6 months is quite long - can we do better? 2. Do we plan to do update releases, e.g. 9.1, or 9.0 patch 1 (as before) with just some cherrypicked stuff onto the existing release base bran

Updater branding for release90

2018-06-26 Thread Sven Reimers
Hi all, I created a PR with the cherry-picked commit for release90 branch. https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/608 -Sven P.S. I think we need to work on the blue color etc. in the lower half of the updater as well... any ideas?

Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed Release ProcessWAS: Merging back netcat@ into the dev@ mailing list

2018-06-26 Thread Neil C Smith
On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 at 13:34, John McDonnell wrote: > > Might every 3 months be pushing it a little? > > We'll constantly be in a state of picking fixes for release -> testing -> > fixing -> release -> picking fixes for release, etc.. > > Something like 6 months is a little more relaxed as it giv

Re: Release Criteria: WAIVER bugs

2018-06-26 Thread John Kostaras
In the mean time, I went through the 16 critical issues and there is at least one comment to them by someone who has review them and either could not reproduce them or couldn't do anything about them because e.g. it was a problem with a plugin. So, I 'm not sure how we could proceed. I tried a coup

Re: Pushing the 2nd donation

2018-06-26 Thread Sven Reimers
Yeah! -Sven Geertjan Wielenga schrieb am Di., 26. Juni 2018, 15:54: > Fantastic! > > Thanks everyone who worked hard behind the scenes on this. > > Gj > > > On Tuesday, June 26, 2018, Junichi Yamamoto wrote: > > > Great! > > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/2ndDonation > > > >

Re: Pushing the 2nd donation

2018-06-26 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Fantastic! Thanks everyone who worked hard behind the scenes on this. Gj On Tuesday, June 26, 2018, Junichi Yamamoto wrote: > Great! > https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/2ndDonation > > Thanks, > Junichi > On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 9:02 PM Geertjan Wielenga > wrote: > > > > Hi a

Re: Pushing the 2nd donation

2018-06-26 Thread Junichi Yamamoto
Great! https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/tree/2ndDonation Thanks, Junichi On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 9:02 PM Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > > Hi all, > > On the Oracle side, we've been trying to push the 2nd donation today. > > We need an 'orphan' branch since that's what we need to work with

Re: [DISCUSS] Merging back netcat@ into the dev@ mailing list

2018-06-26 Thread Glenn Holmer
On 06/26/2018 06:47 AM, Emilian Bold wrote: >> I think this discussion should take place on the NetCAT mailing >> list only -- and personally I'm not sure that it is the most urgent >> discussion at this point. > > I think this further proves it's a bad idea to have multiple mailing > lists. We ar

Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed Release ProcessWAS: Merging back netcat@ into the dev@ mailing list

2018-06-26 Thread John McDonnell
Might every 3 months be pushing it a little? We'll constantly be in a state of picking fixes for release -> testing -> fixing -> release -> picking fixes for release, etc.. Something like 6 months is a little more relaxed as it gives us about 4 months between releases to make changes, introduce

Re: Pushing the 2nd donation

2018-06-26 Thread Emilian Bold
Maybe you have to merge that orphan branch with master before doing a push? --emi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On 26 June 2018 3:02 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote: > Hi all, > > On the Oracle side, we've been trying to push the 2nd donation today. > > We need an 'orphan' branch since that'

Pushing the 2nd donation

2018-06-26 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
Hi all, On the Oracle side, we've been trying to push the 2nd donation today. We need an 'orphan' branch since that's what we need to work with Emilian's history, as I understand it. We've tried pushing to Git and failed thus far and are discussing with Apache infra what to do next. Only via Git

Re: [DISCUSS] Merging back netcat@ into the dev@ mailing list

2018-06-26 Thread Emilian Bold
> I think this discussion should take place on the NetCAT mailing list only > -- and personally I'm not sure that it is the most urgent discussion at > this point. I think this further proves it's a bad idea to have multiple mailing lists. We aren't even capable of having a discussion involving t

Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed Release ProcessWAS: Merging back netcat@ into the dev@ mailing list

2018-06-26 Thread Emilian Bold
Every 3 months sounds good. --emi ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐ On 26 June 2018 11:38 AM, Neil C Smith wrote: > On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 at 09:12, John McDonnell mcdonnell.j...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Secondly, what is our release cadence? Are we planning every 6 months, > > > > maybe attempt t

Re: [DISCUSS] Merging back netcat@ into the dev@ mailing list

2018-06-26 Thread Bertrand Delacretaz
Hi, On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 11:13 PM Sven Reimers wrote: > ...3. How about ensuring that NetCAT has a representative as part of the > (i/P)PMC - then those people can just vote -1 on a release and we do not > need any other additional means Note that release votes are majority votes, as per

Re: [DISCUSS] Proposed Release ProcessWAS: Merging back netcat@ into the dev@ mailing list

2018-06-26 Thread Neil C Smith
On Tue, 26 Jun 2018 at 09:12, John McDonnell wrote: > Secondly, what is our release cadence? Are we planning every 6 months, > maybe attempt to keep some alignment with the JDK release cycle, or > something longer term, like 12 months? Thanks for kicking this off. Personally, while I'd be happy

Re: Updater branding

2018-06-26 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 9:54 PM, Lars Bruun-Hansen wrote: > > > I've been offline for some time so haven't been following your excellent > progress. > Thanks -- and welcome back! Gj > > -Lars > > > On Mon, Jun 25, 2018 at 5:08 PM, Geertjan Wielenga < > geertjan.wiele...@googlemail.com.inval

[DISCUSS] Proposed Release ProcessWAS: Merging back netcat@ into the dev@ mailing list

2018-06-26 Thread John McDonnell
Hi All, In this earlier thread I put forward proposal for a timeline for releases, to encorporate NetCat testing and voting. Day 0: dev mailing list agrees to initiate a release, - Code Branched into specific release Branch & Jenkins updated Day 0: NetCat Announced + Week of signups Day 0-6: New

Re: Updater branding

2018-06-26 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
I've done a separate pull request for the new splash images for the release90 branch, since I'm using the web interface for doing these changes and I don't see a way to do cherry picking there: https://github.com/apache/incubator-netbeans/pull/605 Gj On Tue, Jun 26, 2018 at 6:25 AM, Thilina Rana

Re: [DISCUSS] Merging back netcat@ into the dev@ mailing list

2018-06-26 Thread Geertjan Wielenga
I think this discussion should take place on the NetCAT mailing list only -- and personally I'm not sure that it is the most urgent discussion at this point. Having a dedicated community focused on testing has always been a good thing -- whatever we do, we mustn't lose those dedicated people who h