Re: [PROPOSAL] from specialpurpose to extras

2012-07-10 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Looks promising Olivier, Looking forward Jacques From: "Olivier Heintz" All you proposed sound good to me. Since first discussion about "Lose Weight Program for OFBiz" we (the company I am working for) have continue to work on addon definition, rule, goal. In my current plan, I am 3 week l

Re: [PROPOSAL] from specialpurpose to extras

2012-07-10 Thread BJ Freeman
So the concerns, as I read the thread, is review of code for release needs to be minimized. Instead of shrinking the SVN Image, I present the following. 1) expand the tests to verify each component/folder. This would reduce release review. 2) expand the ant script or create seperate one for Dist

Re: [PROPOSAL] from specialpurpose to extras

2012-07-10 Thread Olivier Heintz
All you proposed sound good to me. Since first discussion about "Lose Weight Program for OFBiz" we (the company I am working for) have continue to work on addon definition, rule, goal. In my current plan, I am 3 week late, but this week (or next one ) I should create in apache-extra some proje

Re: [PROPOSAL] from specialpurpose to extras

2012-07-09 Thread Pierre Smits
2012/7/10 Jacopo Cappellato > > The idea is to not include the specialpurpose folder from future releases: > 13.04, 14.04 etc... > > > -1

Re: [PROPOSAL] from specialpurpose to extras

2012-07-09 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
It is difficult to groups components in this way because it is based on your personal experience (mine would be completely different, for example). The fact that they are not part of the future "OFBiz releases" doesn't mean that they will not be used, in fact they can be downloaded separately. J

Re: [PROPOSAL] from specialpurpose to extras

2012-07-09 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
On Jul 9, 2012, at 10:28 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote: > Ha, I forgot about the release aspect of the discussion. I agree, to have > less burden on committers shoulders when releasing, we could put the > specialpurpose folder out of releases branches. But then I wonder how they > will be maintain

Re: [PROPOSAL] from specialpurpose to extras

2012-07-09 Thread Jacques Le Roux
Ha, I forgot about the release aspect of the discussion. I agree, to have less burden on committers shoulders when releasing, we could put the specialpurpose folder out of releases branches. But then I wonder how they will be maintained in future. This is what is worrying me a bit: releases will

Re: [PROPOSAL] from specialpurpose to extras

2012-07-09 Thread Jacques Le Roux
I have nothing against these ideas. It seems to me though that some applications currently in specialpurpose are more used and/or have a larger scope than some others. Roughly said I see 2 kinds of components there: "1st class citizens" would be assetmaint ecommerce example* pos maybe myportal?

Re: [PROPOSAL] from specialpurpose to extras

2012-07-09 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Yes, this could be the easiest way to implement it. And if and when we will release the "specialpurpose" applications we could simply create a tag (if we do not plan to backport fixes for "specialpurpose" releases) or we could create a release branch specific for "specialpurpose" (if we do not w

Re: [PROPOSAL] from specialpurpose to extras

2012-07-09 Thread Adrian Crum
So, we would remove the specialpurpose folder from the release branch? That sounds fine to me. -Adrian On 7/9/2012 1:55 PM, Jacopo Cappellato wrote: Adrian, all you proposed sounds good to me, I like it. What about the idea of not including specialpurpose in the releases? I think it is impor

Re: [PROPOSAL] from specialpurpose to extras

2012-07-09 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
Adrian, all you proposed sounds good to me, I like it. What about the idea of not including specialpurpose in the releases? I think it is important because it simplifies the task of reviewing the code that we officially publish when we do a release; releasing separately will help to focus on a

Re: [PROPOSAL] from specialpurpose to extras

2012-07-09 Thread Adrian Crum
I like the general direction, but I think the steps are overly complicated. I would prefer to keep the specialpurpose folder name, and keep its components in the build scripts and test runs. This is important because higher level component tests can reveal problems in the core logic (those test

[PROPOSAL] from specialpurpose to extras

2012-07-09 Thread Jacopo Cappellato
A few months ago we discussed about moving out of OFBiz some components from framework and specialpurpose and introduce the concept of "OFBiz Extras" projects, managed out of the ASF infrastructure. I still think it is a good way to go, especially because it will help to grow an ecosystem of pro