Re: [DISCUSS] Re: [VOTE] New Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Il 20/01/2015 00:29, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: On 19 Jan 2015, at 13:32, Kay Schenk wrote: I am probably seeming very disagreeable here. ... Andrea and others believe that the election process has proceeded as it ought to have, with enough time allowed for discussion and then vote. But you argue

Re: Attend Conservancy Supporter Night on Friday before FOSDEM 2015! - Software Freedom Conservancy

2015-01-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 21/01/2015 Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: https://sfconservancy.org/news/2015/jan/20/supporter-night-2015/ The SF Conservancy event listed above is bound to attract interesting people. I don't know if I qualify as interesting... but I will be nearby but busy with other commitments, so I won't be

Re: [DISCUSS] Qt as a replacement for VCL

2015-01-26 Thread Kay Schenk
On 01/20/2015 01:32 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > > > On 01/20/2015 11:28 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: >> Louis asks about a dependency on LGPL. >> >> -- replying below to -- >> From: Louis Suárez-Potts [mailto:lui...@gmail.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2015 07:05 >> To: dev@openoffice.apache

Re: [DISCUSS] #1 New PMC Chair (was RE: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice)

2015-01-26 Thread Kay Schenk
On 01/26/2015 12:55 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I just saw a very crisp statement that applies here too: > > Apache Chairs are not Executives. > > The Incubator Project is in the process of taking nominations and > discussing replacement of their current Chair, which their practice > is to

Re: PMC Chair nominations

2015-01-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 26/01/2015 Dave Fisher wrote: Please make sure that the language for the candidates who are not currently on the PMC includes the language to elect them to the PMC in addition to being elected to PMC Chair. Sure. This was already covered in previous discussions. Don't worry, I know what to

RE: [DISCUSS] #1 New PMC Chair (was RE: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice)

2015-01-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I just saw a very crisp statement that applies here too: Apache Chairs are not Executives. The Incubator Project is in the process of taking nominations and discussing replacement of their current Chair, which their practice is to have on a 12-month cycle. You can see the quote in contex

Re: [NOMINATION] Dennis Hamilton for Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-26 Thread Kay Schenk
On Jan 25, 2015 4:48 PM, "Dennis E. Hamilton" wrote: > > It's my birthday and it just seemed a good idea to move the needle on Priority #1. I'm rather uncomfortable about self-nomination yet I figure the conversations and discussion are of value. > > I hereby nominate myself as the replacement fo

Re: [DISCUSS] #1 New PMC Chair (was RE: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice)

2015-01-26 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jan 26, 2015, at 1:21 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 26/01/2015 RA Stehmann wrote: >> Apart from his official duties the PMC chair is seen as the >> representative of AOO by the public (Whether we like it or not.) > > This happens. More rarely than one would think, but still I confirm that I

Re: [NOMINATION] Dennis Hamilton for Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-26 Thread Marcus
Am 01/26/2015 01:48 AM, schrieb Dennis E. Hamilton: I hereby nominate myself as the replacement for Andrea Pescetti as Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair. great to see a new volunteer as possible new chair. :-) Marcus - To unsubscr

Re: [nomination] Apache openoffice chair

2015-01-26 Thread Marcus
Am 01/26/2015 01:17 PM, schrieb jan i: I am available, if the community wants me as chair (and PMC) without time limit. I'm happy to see that you are available for the chair. :-) Marcus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr

Re: [nomination] Apache openoffice chair

2015-01-26 Thread Marcus
Am 01/26/2015 05:24 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: So: Rob, Juergen, Marcus, Kay, you declined your nomination before we compiled the final list of nominees last round. Have you changed your mind? If so, please nominate yourself within the next three days. I'm sorry but my situation hasn't change

RE: PMC Chair nominations

2015-01-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think the language is for the PMC Chair to make a motion to the Board using the prescribed form for that. I think invitation to the PMC should not be bundled with that. It would be strange to not have that handled by the PMC, although Andrea has the power to appoint someone to the PMC direct

Re: [NOMINATION] Dennis Hamilton for Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-26 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 25 Jan 2015, at 19:48, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > > It's my birthday and it just seemed a good idea to move the needle on > Priority #1. I'm rather uncomfortable about self-nomination yet I figure the > conversations and discussion are of value. > > I hereby nominate myself as the repl

Re: PMC Chair nominations

2015-01-26 Thread Dave Fisher
Just a note on the VOTE since we are doing it in public. Please make sure that the language for the candidates who are not currently on the PMC includes the language to elect them to the PMC in addition to being elected to PMC Chair. Regards, Dave On Jan 26, 2015, at 8:32 AM, Andrea Pescetti

RE: [NOMINATION] Dennis Hamilton for Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-26 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I was asked off-line whether I would commit to serving for one year. Yes. I am committed to serving for at least one year if I am selected and approved. - Dennis PS: On this birthday, my driving license also had to be renewed. I looked at the black-and-white photo on my temporary replac

PMC Chair nominations

2015-01-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Just a note in a dedicated thread to say that nominations for a new PMC Chair are to be considered open for three more days, to give others (Dennis and Jan already nominated themselves) the opportunity to run. Please consider that this comes after 26 days of discussions. So I strongly recommen

Re: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice

2015-01-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 24/01/2015 Andrea Pescetti wrote: 1) Election a new PMC Chair (the Chair has one, and clearly defined, role: being the liaison officer between the OpenOffice PMC and Apache; he/she can do much more, and I have been doing much more and I'll still continue with the rest; but this is not part of

Re: [nomination] Apache openoffice chair

2015-01-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 26/01/2015 Rob Weir wrote: So my concern was your statement "I'll start a vote soon, while it lasts", when there has not been a call for nominations, nor a 3-day period of time. Fair. You all get three days. But no more than that, please. We are really in need for a solution. It sounds l

Re: [nomination] Apache openoffice chair

2015-01-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 9:59 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Rob Weir wrote: >> >> I must have missed it, but when did you call for nominations? And >> how long are we giving to nominations? > > > All of this started on January 1st and we can't go on and discuss forever. > Everybody has had the opp

Re: [NOMINATION] Dennis Hamilton for Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-26 Thread Donald Harbison
Dennis, Thank you for this... the project will be well served. +1 On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > It's my birthday and it just seemed a good idea to move the needle on > Priority #1. I'm rather uncomfortable about self-nomination yet I figure > the conversations

Re: [DISCUSS] Qt as a replacement for VCL

2015-01-26 Thread Louis Suárez-Potts
> On 26 Jan 2015, at 03:42, Fernando Cassia wrote: > > On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts > wrote: > >> * One conceivable drawback is that Kivy also uses "Kivy Language, for >> creating sophisticated user interfaces[,]" though it does not seem to be >> required for creating na

credibility.

2015-01-26 Thread jan i
Hi I have no idea how many times it takes to loose credibility.If I think of how many times the PMC have promised to do things (like e.g. digital signing or getting developers) it must be a high number! I reconsidered only because I have been asked by a number of people to do it, so at least

Re: [nomination] Apache openoffice chair

2015-01-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote: I must have missed it, but when did you call for nominations? And how long are we giving to nominations? All of this started on January 1st and we can't go on and discuss forever. Everybody has had the opportunity to nominate and be nominated. We need something that converge

Re: [nomination] Apache openoffice chair

2015-01-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 9:37 AM, RA Stehmann wrote: > On 26.01.2015 15:20, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:17 AM, jan i wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> Several private emails, during the previous vote (meaning too late to >>> change anything), have persuaded me to reconsider. Self nomination i

Re: [nomination] Apache openoffice chair

2015-01-26 Thread RA Stehmann
On 26.01.2015 15:20, Rob Weir wrote: > On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:17 AM, jan i wrote: >> Hi >> >> Several private emails, during the previous vote (meaning too late to >> change anything), have persuaded me to reconsider. Self nomination is >> generally not a good thing, but Andrea has asked me spe

Re: [nomination] Apache openoffice chair

2015-01-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 9:10 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > jan i wrote: >> >> I am available, if the community wants me as chair (and PMC) without time >> limit. > > > (Answering both messages in one) > > OK, so we have two candidates, which is great! > I must have missed it, but when did you call

Re: [nomination] Apache openoffice chair

2015-01-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 7:17 AM, jan i wrote: > Hi > > Several private emails, during the previous vote (meaning too late to > change anything), have persuaded me to reconsider. Self nomination is > generally not a good thing, but Andrea has asked me specifically to send > this mail, to stop any c

Re: [NOMINATION] Dennis Hamilton for Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-26 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 7:48 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > It's my birthday and it just seemed a good idea to move the needle on > Priority #1. I'm rather uncomfortable about self-nomination yet I figure the > conversations and discussion are of value. > > I hereby nominate myself as the repl

Re: [nomination] Apache openoffice chair

2015-01-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti
jan i wrote: I am available, if the community wants me as chair (and PMC) without time limit. (Answering both messages in one) OK, so we have two candidates, which is great! Thank you Dennis. Thank you Jan. I appreciate the availability of both of you and your sense of responsibility. Your

Re: [nomination] Apache openoffice chair

2015-01-26 Thread Alexandro Colorado
I hav On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 6:17 AM, jan i wrote: > Hi > > Several private emails, during the previous vote (meaning too late to > change anything), have persuaded me to reconsider. Self nomination is > generally not a good thing, but Andrea has asked me specifically to send > this mail, to st

[nomination] Apache openoffice chair

2015-01-26 Thread jan i
Hi Several private emails, during the previous vote (meaning too late to change anything), have persuaded me to reconsider. Self nomination is generally not a good thing, but Andrea has asked me specifically to send this mail, to stop any confusion (or rumors) about my role. I am available, if th

Re: [NOMINATION] Dennis Hamilton for Apache OpenOffice PMC Chair

2015-01-26 Thread Roberto Galoppini
2015-01-26 1:48 GMT+01:00 Dennis E. Hamilton : > It's my birthday and it just seemed a good idea to move the needle on > Priority #1. I'm rather uncomfortable about self-nomination yet I figure > the conversations and discussion are of value. > > I hereby nominate myself as the replacement for An

Building error in module instsetoo_native

2015-01-26 Thread 郄宁
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Re: Junior Volunteer QA

2015-01-26 Thread Alexandro Colorado
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Re: [DISCUSS] #1 New PMC Chair (was RE: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice)

2015-01-26 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 26/01/2015 RA Stehmann wrote: Apart from his official duties the PMC chair is seen as the representative of AOO by the public (Whether we like it or not.) This happens. More rarely than one would think, but still I confirm that I very occasionally received requests from the press. I simply

Junior Volunteer QA

2015-01-26 Thread Артем Хмелев
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Re: [DISCUSS] #1 New PMC Chair (was RE: Short-term priorities for OpenOffice)

2015-01-26 Thread RA Stehmann
On 25.01.2015 00:20, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Apart from his official duties the PMC chair is seen as the representative of AOO by the public (Whether we like it or not.) So IMO we have to discuss what are our expectations to a PMC chair in that role. As said "critical" points are the relations

Re: [DISCUSS] Qt as a replacement for VCL

2015-01-26 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Louis Suárez-Potts wrote: > * One conceivable drawback is that Kivy also uses "Kivy Language, for > creating sophisticated user interfaces[,]" though it does not seem to be > required for creating naive UIs. Kivy is in Python and their conference > presentations s