Re: [osmosis-dev] Osmosis replication fails

2011-12-16 Thread Martijn van Exel
Brett, On Tue, Dec 13, 2011 at 3:20 AM, Brett Henderson br...@bretth.com wrote: On 13 December 2011 06:31, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: Hi all, I have a replication task set up, initially with a longer interval because my planet file is a few weeks old. I have had it running in a

Re: [OSM-dev] IP limit issue when doing mapping parties on a network with NAT

2011-12-16 Thread Andreas Hammershøj
-Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Peter Körner [mailto:osm-li...@mazdermind.de] Sendt: 12. december 2011 21:28 Til: dev@openstreetmap.org Emne: Re: [OSM-dev] IP limit issue when doing mapping parties on a network with NAT Am 12.12.2011 20:49, schrieb Serge Wroclawski: HOT gets around

Re: [OSM-dev] IP limit issue when doing mapping parties on a network with NAT

2011-12-16 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andreas Hammershøj wrote: Is it possible to do this with Potlatch? Afraid not - P2 doesn't yet have any ability to load local files from disk. I'm currently looking into a couple of possible solution, but because it's Christmas I don't have a whole bunch of time for P2 stuff for a couple of

[OSM-dev] OSM-3D tagging info

2011-12-16 Thread Ander Pijoan
Hi everyone: My name is Ander Pijoan and I'm a student at the University of Deusto. We are working on an application to convert data from a goverment database called Catastro (which has been openned to all users little time ago) to osm format in order to do massive imports. This database contains

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM-3D tagging info

2011-12-16 Thread Paul Norman
3d tagging is not widely supported. I think it’d be of questionable value. What software are you using to convert, and what’s the license of the data? Just a reminder, don’t forget to follow the import guidelines, which includes discussing with the local community and

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM-3D tagging info

2011-12-16 Thread Matthias Uden
Hi Ander, the data you have looks great and it certainly would be a huge improvement, particularly in the 3D context. As you've already recognised, the 3D development in OSM is still in its early stages and tagging schemas are not yet established but still lively discussed. The most

Re: [OSM-dev] IP limit issue when doing mapping parties on a network with NAT

2011-12-16 Thread Peter Körner
Am 16.12.2011 09:39, schrieb Andreas Hammershøj: Well, you could download the area of interest via the homepage export function as .osm file and place it on a network share / usb stick. The Editors of the mapping party would open that file, do their changes and upload from there. The

Re: [OSM-dev] IP limit issue when doing mapping parties on a network with NAT

2011-12-16 Thread Andreas Hammershøj
-Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Richard Fairhurst [mailto:rich...@systemed.net] Sendt: 16. december 2011 09:59 Til: dev@openstreetmap.org Emne: Re: [OSM-dev] IP limit issue when doing mapping parties on a network with NAT Andreas Hammershøj wrote: Is it possible to do this with

Re: [OSM-dev] speeding up loading an OSM dump into PostGIS?

2011-12-16 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
On 15.12.2011 12:10, Frederik Ramm wrote: But: Anyone who really wants to, and has the resources to, can set up a full database today, feed it with minutely diffs through Osmosis, and allow a merry band of replication clients down the line. problem is that Postgres repliation (the bundled one

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM-3D tagging info

2011-12-16 Thread Frederik Ramm
Ander, On 12/16/11 10:09, Ander Pijoan wrote: to osm format in order to do massive imports. Imports are not universally welcome in OSM. Please discuss, ideally on the imports list, exactly what you plan to import and how. The tags on the wiki related to 3D rendering are quite reduced for

Re: [OSM-dev] speeding up loading an OSM dump into PostGIS?

2011-12-16 Thread Peter Körner
Am 16.12.2011 11:09, schrieb Hartmut Holzgraefe: So even a public PG replication master would only make sense for those who run exactly the same architecture, or multiple masters for different architectures would be needed ... :/ At one of the Hack-Weekends someone played around with

Re: [OSM-dev] IP limit issue when doing mapping parties on a network with NAT

2011-12-16 Thread Andreas Hammershøj
-Oprindelig meddelelse- Fra: Peter Körner [mailto:osm-li...@mazdermind.de] Sendt: 16. december 2011 10:56 Til: Andreas Hammershøj Cc: dev@openstreetmap.org Emne: Re: SV: [OSM-dev] IP limit issue when doing mapping parties on a network with NAT Am 16.12.2011 09:39, schrieb Andreas

Re: [OSM-dev] IP limit issue when doing mapping parties on a network with NAT

2011-12-16 Thread Peter Körner
Am 16.12.2011 11:21, schrieb Andreas Hammershøj: Hi Peter, we're aware that using JOSM would counter this problem, but we have deemed JOSM too complicated. Many of our participants are recently retired, with limited computer skills. They have enough of a challenge just learning to use P2.

Re: [OSM-dev] IP limit issue when doing mapping parties on a network with NAT

2011-12-16 Thread Peter Körner
Am 16.12.2011 11:33, schrieb Peter Körner: Am 16.12.2011 11:21, schrieb Andreas Hammershøj: Hi Peter, we're aware that using JOSM would counter this problem, but we have deemed JOSM too complicated. Many of our participants are recently retired, with limited computer skills. They have enough of

Re: [OSM-dev] IP limit issue when doing mapping parties on a network with NAT

2011-12-16 Thread Jaak Laineste
Merkaator is not much easier. I've got same issue a few times. Would it be possible to whitelist temporarily certain pre-registered IPs? Jaak Sent from my hiPhone On 16.12.2011, at 12:35, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: Am 16.12.2011 11:33, schrieb Peter Körner: Am 16.12.2011

Re: [OSM-dev] speeding up loading an OSM dump into PostGIS?

2011-12-16 Thread Hartmut Holzgraefe
On 16.12.2011 11:21, Peter Körner wrote: At one of the Hack-Weekends someone played around with distributing the SQL-Commands issued by osm2pgsql via XMPP. with the SQL command execution, especially the index creation, being the most expensive part of an osm2pgsql run this would onyl save

Re: [OSM-dev] speeding up loading an OSM dump into PostGIS?

2011-12-16 Thread Peter Körner
Am 16.12.2011 12:47, schrieb Hartmut Holzgraefe: On 16.12.2011 11:21, Peter Körner wrote: At one of the Hack-Weekends someone played around with distributing the SQL-Commands issued by osm2pgsql via XMPP. with the SQL command execution, especially the index creation, being the most expensive

Re: [OSM-dev] speeding up loading an OSM dump into PostGIS?

2011-12-16 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi, On 12/16/11 12:49, Peter Körner wrote: with the SQL command execution, especially the index creation, being the most expensive part of an osm2pgsql run this would onyl save about 1/4 to 1/3 of the total planet import execution time i'm afraid ... It would help with keeping updated: you

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM-3D tagging info

2011-12-16 Thread Jaime Crespo
El 16/12/2011 10:22, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com escribió: 3d tagging is not widely supported. I think it’d be of questionable value. I think that importing the number of floors and/or the height of the building is something really useful. Look at those pretty buildings in 3d renderings.

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM-3D tagging info

2011-12-16 Thread Jaime Crespo
El 16/12/2011 11:15, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org escribió: Ander, On 12/16/11 10:09, Ander Pijoan wrote: Such information is almost certainly not suitable for OSM. Under no circumstances should you import data for all of Spain while sitting at your desk - if at all, then you can help

Re: [OSM-dev] OSM-3D tagging info

2011-12-16 Thread Tobias Knerr
Ander Pijoan wrote: We are working on an application to convert data from a goverment database called Catastro (which has been openned to all users little time ago) to osm format in order to do massive imports. [...] The conversion part is almost ready but we have one bit missing, the

Re: [OSM-dev] speeding up loading an OSM dump into PostGIS?

2011-12-16 Thread Kai Krueger
On 01/-10/-28163 12:59 PM, Peter Körner wrote: Am 16.12.2011 12:47, schrieb Hartmut Holzgraefe: On 16.12.2011 11:21, Peter Körner wrote: At one of the Hack-Weekends someone played around with distributing the SQL-Commands issued by osm2pgsql via XMPP. with the SQL command execution,

Re: [OSM-dev] Patch for osm2pgsql duplicate keys

2011-12-16 Thread Andrew M. Bishop
Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk writes: I know on my (rather old) version of osm2pgsql, append fails with duplicate ways. Will have to try the new version and see if I get the same problem. Sorry, this is with slim mode only. Dup ways give no error with regular mode. Does the patch

Re: [OSM-dev] Harmless edits

2011-12-16 Thread SomeoneElse
Frederik Ramm wrote: You can try out my script here, by adding a way/node/relation id to the URL like so: http://wtfe.gryph.de/harmless/way/40103577 Here's an oddity... http://wtfe.gryph.de/harmless/way/9178258 suggests This object remains problematic even after looking at harmless

Re: [OSM-dev] Osm2pgsql failure with low-end server

2011-12-16 Thread Andrew M. Bishop
Martijn van Oosterhout klep...@gmail.com writes: On 8 December 2011 11:13, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: 700 MB is a tiny machine, but then the Finland data set isn't that large either... it must be possible somehow ;) Incidentally why would it run out of memory in slim

Re: [OSM-dev] Harmless edits

2011-12-16 Thread Frederik Ramm
Andy, On 12/16/2011 06:40 PM, SomeoneElse wrote: http://wtfe.gryph.de/harmless/way/9178258 suggests This object remains problematic even after looking at harmless edits. Yes. The script is not clever enough to find out what you did. It would have classed the non-agreer's change as harmless

Re: [OSM-dev] Harmless edits

2011-12-16 Thread Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)
My opinion is that the agree-er's change of the (apparently, but who knows for sure?) mis-spelling of the nmae= tag to name= brings the information into the realm of agreement by the adoption of the most recent edit of the tag. It is the responsibility, I would think, of the correcting user

Re: [OSM-dev] speeding up loading an OSM dump into PostGIS?

2011-12-16 Thread sly (sylvain letuffe)
Hi, We're working hard on getting the relevant hardware in place to start trialling this out, but it's a big project. Many thanks for the insight The original topic was about replication for rendering, so a comment on that Whooops, I haven't read that thread far enough in the past to

Re: [OSM-dev] [Imports] OSM-3D tagging info

2011-12-16 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
On Dec 16, 2011, at 4:48 AM, Jaime Crespo wrote: El 16/12/2011 10:22, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com escribió: 3d tagging is not widely supported. I think it’d be of questionable value. I think that importing the number of floors and/or the height of the building is something really

Re: [OSM-dev] [Imports] OSM-3D tagging info

2011-12-16 Thread Komяpa
Hi! Yes rendering has HUGE value!! Please merge this kind of data in a rendering DB not the main DB. So, renderings like this must not be in OSM? Why? :3 http://latlon.org/buildings?zoom=16lat=53.90347lon=27.44665layers=BT -- Darafei Komяpa Praliaskouski OSM BY Team -

Re: [OSM-dev] [Imports] OSM-3D tagging info

2011-12-16 Thread Apollinaris Schoell
Please read again what I wrote the answer is there!! Can I do more can shout in CAPS to make it clear? long answer in many posts from Frederick and others about imports On Dec 16, 2011, at 12:07 PM, Komяpa wrote: Hi! Yes rendering has HUGE value!! Please merge this kind of data in a

Re: [OSM-dev] Harmless edits

2011-12-16 Thread Paul Norman
From: Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr) [mailto:ldeff...@homeside.to] Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Harmless edits My opinion is that the agree-er's change of the (apparently, but who knows for sure?) mis-spelling of the nmae= tag to name= brings the information into the realm of agreement by the adoption

[OSM-dev] Nominatim (npi / osm)?

2011-12-16 Thread Nonmaskable Interrupt
Hello! I am doing some development and experimentation with nominatim and am confused by what is the best path forward with creating/searching nominatim databases One seems to be NPI (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Nominatim/Structured) and the other is via osm2pgsql/gazetteer (

Re: [OSM-dev] Harmless edits

2011-12-16 Thread Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr)
On 12/16/2011 4:14 PM, Paul Norman wrote: From: Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr) [mailto:ldeff...@homeside.to] Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Harmless edits My opinion is that the agree-er's change of the (apparently, but who knows for sure?) mis-spelling of the nmae= tag to name= brings the information into

Re: [OSM-dev] Harmless edits

2011-12-16 Thread Paul Norman
From: Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr) [mailto:ldeff...@homeside.to] Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Harmless edits On 12/16/2011 4:14 PM, Paul Norman wrote: From: Lynn W. Deffenbaugh (Mr) [mailto:ldeff...@homeside.to] Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Harmless edits My opinion is that the agree-er's change of

Re: [OSM-dev] speeding up loading an OSM dump into PostGIS?

2011-12-16 Thread Kai Krueger
On 01/-10/-28163 12:59 PM, sly (sylvain letuffe) wrote: Hi, We're working hard on getting the relevant hardware in place to start trialling this out, but it's a big project. Many thanks for the insight The original topic was about replication for rendering, so a comment on that