Re: Mocking Frameworks

2011-09-16 Thread rey malahay
Thanks Guys, I will do as advised, and submit my patch once I get all my tests to pass. Kind regards, Rey Malahay On 9 September 2011 01:28, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 2:37 AM, rey malahay wrote: > > I appreciate the fact that this issue is still under discussion. I

Re: Mocking Frameworks

2011-09-15 Thread Andreas Lehmkuehler
Hi, Am 08.09.2011 09:31, schrieb Jukka Zitting: Hi, On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Martinez, Mel - 1004 - MITLL wrote: The interests Adam alluded to extend beyond just the direct interests of the ASF. Adding any new third party code or package is often a very, very big deal for those of us

Re: Mocking Frameworks

2011-09-09 Thread Adam Nichols
else > who will end up with that work dumped on them.  I would not be a good team > player if I didn't advocate for conservatism on this point. > > Mel > > -Original Message- > From: Jukka Zitting [mailto:jukka.zitt...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, September 09,

RE: Mocking Frameworks

2011-09-09 Thread Martinez, Mel - 1004 - MITLL
t. Mel -Original Message- From: Jukka Zitting [mailto:jukka.zitt...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 9:49 AM To: dev@pdfbox.apache.org Subject: Re: Mocking Frameworks Hi, On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Martinez, Mel - 1004 - MITLL wrote: > Jukka - It isn't about what I

Re: Mocking Frameworks

2011-09-09 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Martinez, Mel - 1004 - MITLL wrote: > Jukka - It isn't about what I 'want' to go through. Yeah, sorry for picking on you specifically. My point is that what you're describing is a rather high level of oversight that isn't mandatory or even desirable for the av

RE: Mocking Frameworks

2011-09-09 Thread Martinez, Mel - 1004 - MITLL
ry bureaucratic hoops. My only position is that that is indeed actual work and I'm not convinced the benefit is sufficient to justify it. -Mel -Original Message- From: Jukka Zitting [mailto:jukka.zitt...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 3:28 AM To: dev@pdfbox.apache.org

Re: Mocking Frameworks

2011-09-09 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 2:37 AM, rey malahay wrote: > I appreciate the fact that this issue is still under discussion. In the > meantime, I will put my work, which I intended to submit to the project, on > the backburners. Please feel free to go ahead with your patch. Just add the mock librar

Re: Mocking Frameworks

2011-09-09 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 2:30 AM, Adam Nichols wrote: > If there's a way to make it "excluded by default" when building a > release version of the jar, then that should alleviate my concerns of > adding another dependency.  I'm not at all familiar with Maven, so I'm > not sure how optional depe

Re: Mocking Frameworks

2011-09-08 Thread rey malahay
ssion we archive all source for all 3rd party > components > >> and have to show the ability to build and support such. All artifacts > >> required for the build have to be traceable and approved If the test > >> harness requires some new artifact then that will hav

Re: Mocking Frameworks

2011-09-08 Thread Adam Nichols
ponents >> and have to show the ability to build and support such.  All artifacts >> required for the build have to be traceable and approved   If the test >> harness requires some new artifact then that will have to be approved. >> >> Mel >> >> -Original Message

Re: Mocking Frameworks

2011-09-08 Thread rey malahay
t; Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:31 AM > To: dev@pdfbox.apache.org > Subject: Re: Mocking Frameworks > > Hi, > > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Martinez, Mel - 1004 - MITLL > wrote: > > The interests Adam alluded to extend beyond just the direct interests of &g

RE: Mocking Frameworks

2011-09-08 Thread Martinez, Mel - 1004 - MITLL
: Mocking Frameworks Hi, On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Martinez, Mel - 1004 - MITLL wrote: > The interests Adam alluded to extend beyond just the direct interests of the > ASF.  Adding any new third party code or package is often a very, very big > deal for those of us who depe

Re: Mocking Frameworks

2011-09-08 Thread rey malahay
Thanks for upholding the ASF's principles, Jukka. On 8 September 2011 01:31, Jukka Zitting wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Martinez, Mel - 1004 - MITLL > wrote: > > The interests Adam alluded to extend beyond just the direct interests of > the > > ASF. Adding any new third par

Re: Mocking Frameworks

2011-09-08 Thread Jukka Zitting
Hi, On Wed, Sep 7, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Martinez, Mel - 1004 - MITLL wrote: > The interests Adam alluded to extend beyond just the direct interests of the > ASF.  Adding any new third party code or package is often a very, very big > deal for those of us who depend on ASF components such as PDFBox.

Re: Mocking Frameworks

2011-09-07 Thread rey malahay
Thanks Guys, point taken. On 7 September 2011 08:13, Martinez, Mel - 1004 - MITLL < m.marti...@ll.mit.edu> wrote: > Just a couple of quick comments. > -Original Message- > From: rey malahay [mailto:reymala...@gmail.com] > > > > > If it is a question of writing quality/ better code, then a

RE: Mocking Frameworks

2011-09-07 Thread Martinez, Mel - 1004 - MITLL
Just a couple of quick comments. -Original Message- From: rey malahay [mailto:reymala...@gmail.com] > > If it is a question of writing quality/ better code, then adding another > library that supports the quality objective should not be a big deal. The > last time I checked, the Apache So

Re: Mocking Frameworks

2011-09-06 Thread rey malahay
tests for PDFBox? I am currently using Mockito. Is this acceptable? > > > > Please advise. > > > > Thanks in advance, > > Rey Malahay > > > > -- Forwarded message -- > > From: rey malahay > > Date: 3 September 2011 15:02 >

Re: Mocking Frameworks

2011-09-06 Thread Adam Nichols
e? > > Please advise. > > Thanks in advance, > Rey Malahay > > -- Forwarded message -- > From: rey malahay > Date: 3 September 2011 15:02 > Subject: Mocking Frameworks > To: dev@pdfbox.apache.org > > > Dear PDFBox Team, > > May I use a m

Fwd: Mocking Frameworks

2011-09-06 Thread rey malahay
message -- From: rey malahay Date: 3 September 2011 15:02 Subject: Mocking Frameworks To: dev@pdfbox.apache.org Dear PDFBox Team, May I use a mocking framework in my unit tests? I am currently using Mockito in conjunction with JUnit, to write my unit tests and mock classes that do not form

Mocking Frameworks

2011-09-03 Thread rey malahay
Dear PDFBox Team, May I use a mocking framework in my unit tests? I am currently using Mockito in conjunction with JUnit, to write my unit tests and mock classes that do not form part of the test objective. If so, how do we include the framework in question with our patch submission? Please advis