Re: [RELEASE CANDIDATE] mod_perl-1.99_17 RC1

2004-11-22 Thread Stas Bekman
Markus Wichitill wrote: Stas Bekman wrote: Markus Wichitill wrote: Stas Bekman wrote: Randy Kobes wrote: For the protocol/echo_nonblock.t test, as I mentioned, the failure of the last test (which is expected to timeout) only occurred when running the full test suite. I'll try to narrow it down - on

Re: Apache2 and Apache::Test

2004-11-22 Thread Joe Schaefer
Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > So A-T installs into INSTALLSITEARCH because that's where mp2 normally > installed things to. So why did it now install things outside of arch? It looks like the top-level httpd-test/perl-framework/Makefile wasn't picking up your redefinitions; they were

Re: Apache2 and Apache::Test

2004-11-22 Thread Stas Bekman
Joe Schaefer wrote: Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: so what perl and MM versions are you talking about (now and before)? It has been installing itself into blib/lib and not (blib/lib/Apache2) for years I believe. I can't find any notes in Changes saying that it was changed. OK, I see the

Re: Apache2 and Apache::Test

2004-11-22 Thread Joe Schaefer
Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > so what perl and MM versions are you talking about (now and before)? It has > been installing itself into blib/lib and not (blib/lib/Apache2) for years I > believe. I can't find any notes in Changes saying that it was changed. OK, I see the problem now.

Re: Apache2 and Apache::Test

2004-11-22 Thread Stas Bekman
Joe Schaefer wrote: Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] but I'm not sure why do you see what you explain. mp2/Apache-Test/Makefile should be: INST_LIB = ../blib/lib and not: INST_LIB = ../blib/lib/Apache2 which one do you see? The first one now, INST_LIB=../blib/lib, which does looks o

Re: Apache2 and Apache::Test

2004-11-22 Thread Joe Schaefer
Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > but I'm not sure why do you see what you > explain. mp2/Apache-Test/Makefile should be: > > INST_LIB = ../blib/lib > > and not: > > INST_LIB = ../blib/lib/Apache2 > > which one do you see? The first one now, INST_LIB=../blib/lib, which does looks

Re: can someone explain the new modperl svn layout?

2004-11-22 Thread Stas Bekman
David Wheeler wrote: On Nov 22, 2004, at 6:37 AM, Stas Bekman wrote: Really? I for one believe that the docs would be of better overall quality if they were maintained at the same time as the rest of the tree. On smaller-scale CPAN modules, I've found that insisting that contributors provide patche

Re: Apache2 and Apache::Test

2004-11-22 Thread Stas Bekman
Geoffrey Young wrote: Joe Schaefer wrote: I recently noticed that mp2 installs its own Apache::Test under the Apache2 directory. As a separate CPAN module, Apache::Test gets installed somewhere else. Since Apache::Test does not depend on mp2, I think it's a bug for mod_perl to install it unde

Re: [Discuss] The various possible SVN layouts

2004-11-22 Thread Stas Bekman
Joe Schaefer wrote: [...] IMO the question boils down to your expectations for using the /branch subdir. Branch management is a PITA in cvs, but it's transparent in svn. Do you expect development on modperl-1 codebase to need lots of branch work? You never know. If so, I think it makes sense fo

Re: Apache2 and Apache::Test

2004-11-22 Thread Geoffrey Young
Joe Schaefer wrote: > I recently noticed that mp2 installs its own > Apache::Test under the Apache2 directory. As > a separate CPAN module, Apache::Test gets > installed somewhere else. Since Apache::Test > does not depend on mp2, I think it's a bug for > mod_perl to install it under Apache

Apache2 and Apache::Test

2004-11-22 Thread Joe Schaefer
I recently noticed that mp2 installs its own Apache::Test under the Apache2 directory. As a separate CPAN module, Apache::Test gets installed somewhere else. Since Apache::Test does not depend on mp2, I think it's a bug for mod_perl to install it under Apache2. Does anybody else agree with

emacs hints for psvn.el (was Re: svn question)

2004-11-22 Thread Joe Schaefer
Joe Schaefer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I like psvn.el for managing svn projects with emacs, and I > also use compilation buffers to post-process Apache::Test and > Test::More output (such buffers allow you jump right to the > source of a failed test, but they work for grep output also). I jus

Re: can someone explain the new modperl svn layout?

2004-11-22 Thread David Wheeler
On Nov 22, 2004, at 6:37 AM, Stas Bekman wrote: Really? I for one believe that the docs would be of better overall quality if they were maintained at the same time as the rest of the tree. On smaller-scale CPAN modules, I've found that insisting that contributors provide patches for all three of co

RE: [Discuss] The various possible SVN layouts

2004-11-22 Thread Gerald Richter
> > of course, I guess you could argue that to get README-SVN you > would already need svn access, but you could point users to > viewcvs or whatever :) > Svn is always accessable via normal http/https request and a broswer (at least for the HEAD revision), so you could pass simply the URL for

Re: [Discuss] The various possible SVN layouts

2004-11-22 Thread Geoffrey Young
>> I think apr is most similar in this respect: >> >> apr/apr/ >> apr/apr-util/ > >> > >> so I guess it makes sense to have >> /perl/modperl >> /perl/modperl-docs >> >> however, both apr and httpd have put solid and currently maintained >> branches >> under /branches/, leaving /trunk for

Re: [Discuss] The various possible SVN layouts

2004-11-22 Thread Stas Bekman
Geoffrey Young wrote: I suppose that explains very well the reasoning for httpd layout. httpd folks believe apache-1.3 is a history, and hiding it in a branch makes it easier to make it so. I don't think they think that at all :) There are and there are... Right. At the moment we have 3 projects i

Re: [Discuss] The various possible SVN layouts

2004-11-22 Thread Joe Schaefer
Stas Bekman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > I suppose that explains very well the reasoning for httpd > layout. httpd folks believe apache-1.3 is a history, and hiding > it in a branch makes it easier to make it so. Err, I don't think they're trying to hide anything. It's right alongside t

Re: [Discuss] The various possible SVN layouts

2004-11-22 Thread Geoffrey Young
> I suppose that explains very well the reasoning for httpd layout. httpd > folks believe apache-1.3 is a history, and hiding it in a branch makes > it easier to make it so. I don't think they think that at all :) > Right. At the moment we have 3 projects in perl pmc. And those are > modperl1, m

Re: can someone explain the new modperl svn layout?

2004-11-22 Thread Stas Bekman
Dominique Quatravaux wrote: Hello, just a grain of salt from an somewhat experienced mod_perl user who switched to Subversion some time ago... Stas Bekman wrote: > >> Second, docs/ was placed under modperl/ because like most other >> projects, the convention is to place the website/documentation

Re: [Discuss] The various possible SVN layouts

2004-11-22 Thread Stas Bekman
Joe Schaefer wrote: David Wheeler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Actually, I think that if the httpd folks had heard Stas' argument that modperl1, modperl1 and modperl-docs are three unrelated projects, modperl-1 differs from modperl-2 about as much as apache-1.3 differs from httpd-2.0. It looks

Re: can someone explain the new modperl svn layout?

2004-11-22 Thread Dominique Quatravaux
Hello, just a grain of salt from an somewhat experienced mod_perl user who switched to Subversion some time ago... Stas Bekman wrote: > >> Second, docs/ was placed under modperl/ because like most other >> projects, the convention is to place the website/documentation >> beside trunk/ of the projec