Re: mailing lists are not showing on the mod_mbox site listing

2009-02-02 Thread Carl Trieloff
Infra has fixed it for us. Carl. Robbie Gemmell wrote: The Qpid mailing lists have disappeared from the mod_mbox site listing at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ For a while both the incubator lists and the new top level lists were present on the page, but now neither set are presen

Re: M4 post-release process review

2009-02-02 Thread Rajith Attapattu
Agree that Qpid as a project needs to pay more attention to licensing issues. I had to update a ton of files for the ASF header across all languages and it wasn't fun at all :) The addition of a GPL library was a honest mistake and should have been caught during the review process. I also agree th

Re: version number proposal

2009-02-02 Thread Rajith Attapattu
Hi Aidan, As Rafi pointed out, your proposal seems like a good fit to handle the current situation. However the current situation is very confusing for potential users and newcomers to the project. Having gone through 5 releases and looking at the queries on the user/dev list, my experience is tha

Re: version number proposal

2009-02-02 Thread Rajith Attapattu
I would agree with Rafi. If we jump straightaway to 1.x and continue from there, people will start to expect API compatibility. I don't think Qpid is in a position to make such guarantee. I also agree that we should not follow AMQP versions. Our version has to be independent of AMQP. BUT I think w

Re: version number proposal

2009-02-02 Thread Rafael Schloming
Aidan Skinner wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Rafael Schloming wrote: I think this would make a bit more sense. For me at least versions like 1.5 and 1.6 imply a level of API compatibility and client/server interop that goes beyond what we currently test for in our releases. I think

Re: version number proposal

2009-02-02 Thread Aidan Skinner
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Rafael Schloming wrote: > I think this would make a bit more sense. For me at least versions like 1.5 > and 1.6 imply a level of API compatibility and client/server interop that > goes beyond what we currently test for in our releases. I think we should adopt APR

RE: version number proposal

2009-02-02 Thread Steve Huston
> >> Short and sweet... I propose we move from Mx naming and with > >> M5 move to 1.5 then 1.6 and so forth. > >> > >> any takers? > >> > > > > Another possibility... Go to 0.5, 0.6, etc. until a version is done > > that supports AMQP 1.0 and that is Qpid 1.0. > > > > Personally I think i

Re: Web site triage

2009-02-02 Thread Rafael Schloming
Marnie McCormack wrote: I'd put the opposite view forward - we are currently unable to avoid doing releases with non-interop-ing components and are also duty bound to test against old broker/client releases (we do this for each release). Thus I think component releases should not present a probl

Re: version number proposal

2009-02-02 Thread Carl Trieloff
Carl Trieloff wrote: Steve Huston wrote: Hi Carl, Short and sweet... I propose we move from Mx naming and with M5 move to 1.5 then 1.6 and so forth. any takers? Another possibility... Go to 0.5, 0.6, etc. until a version is done that supports AMQP 1.0 and that is Qpid 1.0. Pers

Re: version number proposal

2009-02-02 Thread Rafael Schloming
Steve Huston wrote: Hi Carl, Short and sweet... I propose we move from Mx naming and with M5 move to 1.5 then 1.6 and so forth. any takers? Another possibility... Go to 0.5, 0.6, etc. until a version is done that supports AMQP 1.0 and that is Qpid 1.0. I think this would make a bit more s

Re: version number proposal

2009-02-02 Thread Carl Trieloff
Steve Huston wrote: Hi Carl, Short and sweet... I propose we move from Mx naming and with M5 move to 1.5 then 1.6 and so forth. any takers? Another possibility... Go to 0.5, 0.6, etc. until a version is done that supports AMQP 1.0 and that is Qpid 1.0. Personally I think it is

RE: version number proposal

2009-02-02 Thread Steve Huston
Hi Carl, > Short and sweet... I propose we move from Mx naming and with > M5 move to 1.5 then 1.6 and so forth. > > any takers? Another possibility... Go to 0.5, 0.6, etc. until a version is done that supports AMQP 1.0 and that is Qpid 1.0. -Steve

Interesting piece of work for C++

2009-02-02 Thread Carl Trieloff
Some of the work being done has been around performance. At this point we have 2 locks that still need some work. One of these locks are in the OS memory allocator, to this end I have spoken to the glic/gcc maintainers and they are working on a better malloc/free for us. However the other si

Re: [ShortListing] Qpid Slogan

2009-02-02 Thread Nuno Santos
Justin Ross wrote: I'm all in (+10) on "Send a message." ("!" optional, imho) I really like "I'm with Qpid", but I think I'd prefer it for a t-shirt. Same here, for the same reasons: +10 on "Send a message" Nuno - Apache Qpi

Re: [ShortListing] Qpid Slogan

2009-02-02 Thread Carl Trieloff
+10 : I'm with Qpid Carl. - Apache Qpid - AMQP Messaging Implementation Project: http://qpid.apache.org Use/Interact: mailto:dev-subscr...@qpid.apache.org

version number proposal

2009-02-02 Thread Carl Trieloff
Short and sweet... I propose we move from Mx naming and with M5 move to 1.5 then 1.6 and so forth. any takers? Carl. - Apache Qpid - AMQP Messaging Implementation Project: http://qpid.apache.org Use/Interact: mailto:dev-s

Re: M4 post-release process review

2009-02-02 Thread Carl Trieloff
I'm personally more concerned about points 8 and 9 though. The Java patch review process is clearly a bit hit and miss. We caught 9 which is key. What concerns you about nine? I saw it as an honest error that was corrected as soon as it was spotted. Carl. --

M4 post-release process review

2009-02-02 Thread Aidan Skinner
First, I'd like to thank Rafi for getting M4 out. Best Qpid Ever. Secondly, I'd like to start a bit of discussion about our development process before we get too deep into M5. These things never go smoothly, and there's a partial list of things at http://qpid.apache.org/m4-release-process-notes.ht

[jira] Created: (QPID-1625) C++ tests need Linux-isms changed to build on Windows

2009-02-02 Thread Steve Huston (JIRA)
C++ tests need Linux-isms changed to build on Windows - Key: QPID-1625 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-1625 Project: Qpid Issue Type: Improvement Components: C++ B

Re: IKVMing the Java client for .Net

2009-02-02 Thread Carl Trieloff
On the Java broker side, we currently have no-one (unless I missed it) declaring that they're working on 0-10 for M5. Is someone planning to do this, firmly ? I think this has bearing on my (and other Java-ers) views here of the short-term/medium-term requirements. Marnie, From the thread

[jira] Resolved: (QPID-1561) qmfconsole Event.h enum Severity has macro name clash on Windows

2009-02-02 Thread Steve Huston (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-1561?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Steve Huston resolved QPID-1561. Resolution: Fixed Fix Version/s: M5 Assignee: Steve Huston Diff applied; Fixed in sv

Re: mailing lists are not showing on the mod_mbox site listing

2009-02-02 Thread Joe Schaefer
Should be fixed now. - Original Message > From: Carl Trieloff > To: dev@qpid.apache.org; Apache Infrastructure > Sent: Monday, February 2, 2009 3:44:40 PM > Subject: mailing lists are not showing on the mod_mbox site listing > > > Infra, > > Is some one able to take a look at this,

[jira] Updated: (QPID-1561) qmfconsole Event.h enum Severity has macro name clash on Windows

2009-02-02 Thread Steve Huston (JIRA)
[ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/QPID-1561?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ] Steve Huston updated QPID-1561: --- Attachment: qpid-1561.diff Diff for changes made on this issue. > qmfconsole Event.h enum Severity ha

Re: IKVMing the Java client for .Net

2009-02-02 Thread Marnie McCormack
I think a key point in our decision making here, one we have not always given enough importance to, is the needs of our existing users. A few of them bend my ear, so here goes Qpid has been going for quite a while now, and we have many existing users who have deployed a Java Broker and are us

mailing lists are not showing on the mod_mbox site listing

2009-02-02 Thread Carl Trieloff
Infra, Is some one able to take a look at this, do we need to file a ticket? Carl. Robbie Gemmell wrote: The Qpid mailing lists have disappeared from the mod_mbox site listing at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ For a while both the incubator lists and the new top level lists were

mailing lists are not showing on the mod_mbox site listing

2009-02-02 Thread Robbie Gemmell
The Qpid mailing lists have disappeared from the mod_mbox site listing at http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ For a while both the incubator lists and the new top level lists were present on the page, but now neither set are present, although the current archives are still working ok if you

Re: IKVMing the Java client for .Net

2009-02-02 Thread Carl Trieloff
Carl Trieloff wrote: Aidan Skinner wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote: Only supporting 0-10 means it won't talk to the current Java broker or any of the other AMQP implementations such as OpenAMQ or RabbitMQ. Does that really matter, we already have an 0-8 c

Re: IKVMing the Java client for .Net

2009-02-02 Thread Carl Trieloff
Aidan Skinner wrote: On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote: Only supporting 0-10 means it won't talk to the current Java broker or any of the other AMQP implementations such as OpenAMQ or RabbitMQ. Does that really matter, we already have an 0-8 client for .NET and ot

Re: IKVMing the Java client for .Net

2009-02-02 Thread Aidan Skinner
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 8:01 PM, Robert Greig wrote: > 2009/1/23 Aidan Skinner : > >> Traditionally, the approach to writing the .Net client has been to >> transliterate the Java client by hand and slap a random API on top of >> that. That seems like a bit of a waste of effort to me. I was thinki

Re: IKVMing the Java client for .Net

2009-02-02 Thread Aidan Skinner
On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Carl Trieloff wrote: >> Only supporting 0-10 means it won't talk to the current Java broker or >> any of the other AMQP implementations such as OpenAMQ or RabbitMQ. >> > > Does that really matter, we already have an 0-8 client for .NET and others > exist. We need t

IP Whitelisting

2009-02-02 Thread Aidan Skinner
Hi, I've been writing up a proposed implementation for adding IP Whitelisting to the Java broker on the wiki at http://qpid.apache.org/ip-whitelisting.html Feedback gratefully received. - Aidan (also, possibly a snowmobile if this weather keeps up) -- Apache Qpid - World Domination through Adva

Re: IKVMing the Java client for .Net

2009-02-02 Thread Carl Trieloff
Only supporting 0-10 means it won't talk to the current Java broker or any of the other AMQP implementations such as OpenAMQ or RabbitMQ. Does that really matter, we already have an 0-8 client for .NET and others exist. We need to look forward. I would say the target is Windows where dll's

Re: Dependencies license question

2009-02-02 Thread Carl Trieloff
ASL & EPL are cleared for use as dependencies in Apache. We also need to deal with the package & all the dependencies. Carl. Andrea Gazzarini wrote: Hi All, I'm going to submit the first version of QMan Admin console.Before explaining what it is and how it's working I need help about licensi

Re: Possible T-shirt image

2009-02-02 Thread Carl Trieloff
Aidan Skinner wrote: On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:06 AM, Carl Trieloff wrote: let's make them... hand them out at apachecon I have seen many other projects do it, from what I remember you just need to notify them Carl.

Re: IKVMing the Java client for .Net

2009-02-02 Thread Aidan Skinner
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 6:11 AM, David Ingham wrote: > Carl's right, we have been investigating the idea of layering a WCF channel > implementation on top of the C++ client library. That is, the managed code > channel implementation would pinvoke down to the native C++ code. This is the > appr

Re: Dependencies license question

2009-02-02 Thread Marnie McCormack
It's in java/resources and contains all the applicable licenses. M On Mon, Feb 2, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Andrea Gazzarini wrote: > Hi Marnie, thanks for reply. Just two questions : > > "add details of each additional license to the license file in svn (they're > separated by language) > We used to sto

Re: Possible T-shirt image

2009-02-02 Thread Aidan Skinner
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:06 AM, Carl Trieloff wrote: > > let's make them... hand them out at apachecon I think we might need to run this by prc@ before we do this. Also, I think it would be better to decide on a logo and slogan first, before creating merch. Cafepress and friends can get stuff in

Re: Dependencies license question

2009-02-02 Thread Andrea Gazzarini
Sorry there was only "one" question... Andrea 2009/2/2 Andrea Gazzarini > Hi Marnie, thanks for reply. Just two questions : > > "add details of each additional license to the license file in svn (they're > separated by language) > We used to store a license file alongside the jars but it looks

Re: Dependencies license question

2009-02-02 Thread Andrea Gazzarini
Hi Marnie, thanks for reply. Just two questions : "add details of each additional license to the license file in svn (they're separated by language) We used to store a license file alongside the jars but it looks like we abandoned than in favour of one big license file (correct me here if I'm wron

Re: Cruise Control results?

2009-02-02 Thread Marnie McCormack
All sounds good - aside from automatic posting (hold your fire!!). If you are anything like us, you wouldn't do that lightly. We run lots of builds and get quite a few failures which need eyeballed so to speak before list posting. I doubt you'd all want to be recipients of all of our infiltered st

Re: Dependencies license question

2009-02-02 Thread Marnie McCormack
Hi Andrea, If we distribute (or store in our repo) any licensed artifact, then we (sadly) have to take on the responsibility of dealing with it. Most likely the licenses are ok to use (since Jetty is also Apace licensed) but you'll have to check each one and include it as appropriate for Qpid. Bas